Sound of Freedom

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214]

who has seen it so far? I am hearing its one of the most phenomenal movies ever made.  Hopefully it starts a trend to actually fight child trafficking and slavery

this is something both sides should oppose

 

[Hardcore troubadour 11,006]

Would love to see it but the content isn’t something for kids.  I’ll wait till it’s on PPV. Looks great. 

[lickin_starfish 1,298]

Human trafficking is why the US government keeps the border wide open. It's why they fought Trump tooth and nail when he tried to close it.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Would love to see it but the content isn’t something for kids.  I’ll wait till it’s on PPV. Looks great. 

it says pg13, but I dont even think I would want to put a 13 year thru that

 

[GutterBoy 1,996]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

who has seen it so far? I am hearing its one of the most phenomenal movies ever made.  Hopefully it starts a trend to actually fight child trafficking and slavery

this is something both sides should oppose

 

I don't know about starting a trend but maybe it will raise awareness.  Human trafficking and slavery are major problems in the world.

I know we disagree when it comes to politics, and I'm gonna throw out some trigger words here, but in the corporate world, there is a big push to fight this as part of ESG.  Corps don't want to hire people engaged in this behavior and they are actively looking to discover these practices and essentially boycott these businesses.  This is good.  Bottom line is we all want to protect the kids, and we can all agree that this is a major problem and we can all do better to stop it.

[Fnord 734]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

who has seen it so far? I am hearing its one of the most phenomenal movies ever made.  Hopefully it starts a trend to actually fight child trafficking and slavery

this is something both sides should oppose

 

They do. I know it's fashionable to lob terms like groomer and pedophile around, especially here, but realistically we all want to see this scourge eradicated. Fukin lowlife scumbags.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

I don't know about starting a trend but maybe it will raise awareness.  Human trafficking and slavery are major problems in the world.

I know we disagree when it comes to politics, and I'm gonna throw out some trigger words here, but in the corporate world, there is a big push to fight this as part of ESG.  Corps don't want to hire people engaged in this behavior and they are actively looking to discover these practices and essentially boycott these businesses.  This is good.  Bottom line is we all want to protect the kids, and we can all agree that this is a major problem and we can all do better to stop it.

I dunno, I have seen quite a few negative reviews about this being an overtly religious movie (coming from the left) and NO ESG has nothing to do with that.

who are the people protecting the Epstein list?  I guarantee a lot of those names are on your said corporate world fighting this with ESG

they are all scumbags

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214]

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

They do. I know it's fashionable to lob terms like groomer and pedophile around, especially here, but realistically we all want to see this scourge eradicated. Fukin lowlife scumbags.

I agree, its funny though all these companies that claim to be all high and mighty here, support it world wide, they just like to virtue signal, but none of them actually care about kids or gays in other countries

[lickin_starfish 1,298]

https://twitter.com/ksorbs/status/1677083788151513089?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1677083788151513089|twgr^1fddafd79fd812991d417c1b54ece17afb701ea1|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgreatawakening.win%2F

[seafoam1 1,184]

Conservatives are appropriating the word 'freedom'. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214]

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/sound-of-freedom-jim-caviezel-child-trafficking-qanon-movie-1234783837/amp/
 

here’s what d1ck wad groomers say

[seafoam1 1,184]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-reviews/sound-of-freedom-jim-caviezel-child-trafficking-qanon-movie-1234783837/amp/
 

here’s what d1ck wad groomers say

Dang they are sick. Focking liberals.

[lickin_starfish 1,298]

It's neat that "elected" officials and the justice department are okay with sex trafficking.

 

[BillyKing 83]

The fact that the left and the biased liberal media are trying to attack this film, attack the people who see it, and try to say the statistics/data in the movie is “bogus” tells me everything I need to know. Not only is this movie the truth, but it’s also exposing the left as heartless pedos who victim shame KIDS, defend pedophilia, and defend human trafficking. This is movie by far NOT political. Yet the left keeps insisting it is. Not only that, you have AMC theaters trying to not let anyone see it by claiming their AC is out, refunding tickets to people before the see it, telling people it’s sold out even though the theater has plenty of open seats, etc. In addition, the left is trying to get the movie pulled from theaters. It’s insane the lengths these leftist pedophiles will go to protect themselves from being exposed. 
 

Watch, when Mel Gibsons movie is about to come out (or does) we will start hearing ALL kinds of stuff about him. Liberal media will try to paint him as a bad guy, his movie as being propaganda, and they’ll try to smear his name. JUST like they’re trying to do with this film, despite it being the highest grossing movie over the past week 

[Hardcore troubadour 11,006]

Liberals really seem to hate this movie. Must be the subject matter. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,035]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Liberals really seem to hate this movie. Must be the subject matter. 

Anything that protects and defends children they are against.  Think about this:

• Abortion up to 9 months and some even after that
• Don't want Epstein Island investigated
• Support mutilation of children under the guise of "trans rights"
• Supports molestation of children under the guise of "minor attracted person", which is also a "trans rights" issue.

It only makes sense that a movie about child-trafficking they would be against.

[Hardcore troubadour 11,006]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Anything that protects and defends children they are against.  Think about this:

• Abortion up to 9 months and some even after that
• Don't want Epstein Island investigated
• Support mutilation of children under the guise of "trans rights"

It only makes sense that a movie about child-trafficking they would be against.

Also want smut in the school library.  

[lickin_starfish 1,298]

I don't know how anyone can be a liberal and not be ashamed. Must be why they claim to be centrists.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214]

On 7/10/2023 at 5:39 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Anything that protects and defends children they are against.  Think about this:

• Abortion up to 9 months and some even after that
• Don't want Epstein Island investigated
• Support mutilation of children under the guise of "trans rights"
• Supports molestation of children under the guise of "minor attracted person", which is also a "trans rights" issue.

It only makes sense that a movie about child-trafficking they would be against.

And to follow up. California which idiots like @The Real timschochet love has just gone full pedo

https://www.foxla.com/news/state-assembly-committee-blocks-bill-that-would-increase-penalties-for-trafficking-minors.amp

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,035]

3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

And to follow up. California which idiots like @The Real timschochet love has just gone full pedo

https://www.foxla.com/news/state-assembly-committee-blocks-bill-that-would-increase-penalties-for-trafficking-minors.amp

JHC

[TheNewGirl 829]

On 7/10/2023 at 5:39 PM, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Anything that protects and defends children they are against.  Think about this:

• Abortion up to 9 months and some even after that
• Don't want Epstein Island investigated
• Support mutilation of children under the guise of "trans rights"
• Supports molestation of children under the guise of "minor attracted person", which is also a "trans rights" issue.

It only makes sense that a movie about child-trafficking they would be against.

After 9 months? Is that possible? 

[Ultra Max Power 201]

1 hour ago, TheNewGirl said:

After 9 months? Is that possible? 

I think NJ allows it up until birth.  After the baby is born the mother also has the right to refuse life saving treatment for the baby if its needed.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,035]

1 hour ago, TheNewGirl said:

After 9 months? Is that possible? 

As long as you call it "abortion", it doesn't matter how old the target of the "abortion" is - the left is behind it 100%.

[HellToupee 373]

4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

And to follow up. California which idiots like @The Real timschochet love has just gone full pedo

https://www.foxla.com/news/state-assembly-committee-blocks-bill-that-would-increase-penalties-for-trafficking-minors.amp

Remember now , this is the @squistion country too. 

[Blue Horseshoe 248]

On 7/10/2023 at 6:14 PM, lickin_starfish said:

I don't know how anyone can be a liberal and not be ashamed. Must be why they claim to be centrists.

 

Quote

"The fundamental problem is that the best predictor of long-term life outcome is IQ. That’s a real problem. Now it’s not that great a predictor. That’s the first thing. If you’re optimistic about IQ, you’d say that it predicts about 25 per cent in* the variants of long-term life outcome. Other factors, like conscientiousness, which is the next best predictor—it’s a Big Five trait—accounts for about 9 per cent, 10 per cent. Something like that. So the two best predictors combined only account for 35 per cent of the difference in life outcome, leaving 65 per cent for other factors, which is quite a lot. So those factors could include things like prejudice and systemic bias, and so forth. But a lot of it’s also luck, and health, and all the things that determine whether you fall off the edge of the world.

The problem with IQ is that there’s no damn way it’s going away. People say, "well, IQ is not really a good measure of intelligence." It’s like, "sorry, people. This is where it gets truly ugly." There is no phenomena in social sciences, period, that is on firmer statistical and conceptual footing than IQ. There’s no phenomena that’s more robust. If you give people a set of tests that assess abstraction, and then you measure their average score on the set of tests of abstraction, and then you rank order them, you have an IQ measured. That’s all you have to do. The measure’s no different than your average performance across a set of tasks that require abstraction." - Jordan Peterson

 

In previous generations in history, those who carry the traits of the typical activist radical leftist simply perished. 

I want to make a distinction between a classic traditional liberal ( think a Bill Maher type) versus an unhinged activist radical leftist ( think of a total idiot like Cori Bush) 

Essentially humans, particularly Americans, have removed the critical element of natural selection. In order for humans to have survived in previous times, much harder times, you needed to focus on form, process and logistics. If you didn't plan for those bad winters or bad seasons of crops, then you died. Your family died. Those who were sent off to war, many died for being unlucky, but many survived because they kept adapting to the changing dynamic around them. 

The same low IQ / zero critical thinking skill zealots who have no shame, that same mindset would have gotten them killed in previous harsher times in the world. Instead, some of them can actually, in current times, monetize their stupidity and build a platform. A previous social "limiter" was shame associated with the family name. Don't do something to make your family look bad in public. But with the breakdown of the core nuclear family, those guard rails don't exist anymore. 

Put it this way, put the radical leftists on an island with limited resources, what would happen? timschochet, squisition, Sho Nuff, Wade Garrett, Gutterboy, dogcows, Sean Mooney and others would be dead. They'd perish because they couldn't find resources or they'd just end up killing each other. They care about how they "feel" over what just plain works and functions. But our modern society allow them to be parasites on the backs of those who do adhere to form, process and logistics. 

I've met a ton of quite intelligent and thoughtful traditional liberals. But I've never met an activist radical leftist with even the bare minimum of basic common sense or any practical understanding of self preservation. 

When our society of abundance becomes one of brutal scarcity, the parasites will burn off and perish. Parasites have no shame. They only exist to take from others and destroy anything that's good and stable. It's why radical leftists never build anything, never contribute anything, never create value. In previous times in human history, societies were glad to see them die off. 

[BuckSwope 484]

On 7/6/2023 at 11:53 AM, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

who has seen it so far? I am hearing its one of the most phenomenal movies ever made.  Hopefully it starts a trend to actually fight child trafficking and slavery

this is something both sides should oppose

 

  Let's pump the brakes there, chief.  

[BuckSwope 484]

Is there a reason something like this wouldn't be a documentary to raise awareness?  

[BuckSwope 484]

1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said:

I think Mel Gibson is working on a documentary about human trafficking.

Great, a name that will make it so people don't want to see it.  

[Reality 2,343]

16 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

  Let's pump the brakes there, chief.  

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sound_of_freedom

Decent audience score, 100% seems good.

Will check this out soon, when it's streaming.

[TheNewGirl 829]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sound_of_freedom

Decent audience score, 100% seems good.

Will check this out soon, when it's streaming.

The ""green splat" comments are interesting. 

[BuckSwope 484]

6 minutes ago, Reality said:

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sound_of_freedom

Decent audience score, 100% seems good.

Will check this out soon, when it's streaming.

Still a bold claim, RT is junk in general, and i'll let you look into the type of films that are usually liked more by audiences vs. critics and judge their typical quality.    People are going a little overboard with this.  

Curious - why are you interested in seeing it? 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214]

9 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Still a bold claim, RT is junk in general, and i'll let you look into the type of films that are usually liked more by audiences vs. critics and judge their typical quality.    People are going a little overboard with this.  

Curious - why are you interested in seeing it? 

I would say cause it exposes something that we all know that happens daily, yet gets swept under the rug by the matters at be, IE Epstein

[Reality 2,343]

14 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Still a bold claim, RT is junk in general, and i'll let you look into the type of films that are usually liked more by audiences vs. critics and judge their typical quality.    People are going a little overboard with this.  

Curious - why are you interested in seeing it? 

I like watching highly rated thought provoking movies. The critic reviews are really good also, so, not sure what you're getting at.

[BuckSwope 484]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I would say cause it exposes something that we all know that happens daily, yet gets swept under the rug by the matters at be, IE Epstein

But I guess that's my point - you know it happens daily, so what are you getting out of paying to see the movie and seeing a reinactment it happening to kids?    

That seemed to be the issue some critics took - there seems to be a bit of lingering on the suffering of the kids (I haven't seen it, so can't verify) - which is a critique I had of movies from a similar cast of people - Passion of the Christ, Hacksaw Ridge, etc..   I understand Jimmy C being attached to this and his views are also an interesting choice the filmmakers made.  

[Hardcore troubadour 11,006]

Hey look, Buck Dope takes the liberal stance again. 

[GutterBoy 1,996]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

But I guess that's my point - you know it happens daily, so what are you getting out of paying to see the movie and seeing a reinactment it happening to kids?    

That seemed to be the issue some critics took - there seems to be a bit of lingering on the suffering of the kids (I haven't seen it, so can't verify) - which is a critique I had of movies from a similar cast of people - Passion of the Christ, Hacksaw Ridge, etc..   I understand Jimmy C being attached to this and his views are also an interesting choice the filmmakers made.  

I've read that the main dude's story isn't very accurate, he's into QAnon, and he's a mormon, who practice their own child sex trade.  So grain of salt.

[Hardcore troubadour 11,006]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

I've read that the main dude's story isn't very accurate, he's into QAnon, and he's a mormon, who practice their own child sex trade.  So grain of salt.

Filming started  in 2017. It was written before that. So no Q anon. Fail.  

[GutterBoy 1,996]

Vice did some investigative work into the group

https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7a3qw/a-famed-anti-sex-trafficking-group-has-a-problem-with-the-truth

[BuckSwope 484]

5 minutes ago, Reality said:

I like watching highly rated thought provoking movies. The critic reviews are really good also, so, not sure what you're getting at.

There are 3 types of ratings I see:  Ones were there critics and movie goers are in lock step.  This is rare, and I am not talking about a 20-30% difference in ratings.   If I remember right, Shawshank would be an example here - both 90%+.   

Most, however the crowds and the critics disagree.  I know which type of movie I would prefer and which ones I would say are the "highly rated, thought provoking" moives.   Usually it's the blockbuster/action/horror fare that the audience prefer a lot over critics.   I looked up another abduction movie that popped into mind and was correct - Taken is 85% crowd, 59% critic.  You see the same on other sites like imdb and metacritic.   Yes, 79% isn't bad - it's also only 28 people.  More what I was saying is it's already one of those movies that crowds like and critics don't as much - 20%+ difference in score.   Look up most Paul Thomas Anderson movies and you will see the opposite to Taken - 90%+ for critics, 60% or so for audience.  

Also, more the point - RT blows because people confuse that 100% as meaning it's highly rated, but that just 100% of people giving it 6/10 or more.   It's a bit stupid.  I know I would rather try a movie that is 80% on RT but the average rating is 8+ vs. a movie that is 100%, but the average rating is 6.3.  

I looked at imdb as well, and that has 8.4 for crowd and only 51 for critics (they use metacritic, which had 11 more critic scores entered)

[jonmx 1,025]

On 7/6/2023 at 2:19 PM, GutterBoy said:

I don't know about starting a trend but maybe it will raise awareness.  Human trafficking and slavery are major problems in the world.

I know we disagree when it comes to politics, and I'm gonna throw out some trigger words here, but in the corporate world, there is a big push to fight this as part of ESG.  Corps don't want to hire people engaged in this behavior and they are actively looking to discover these practices and essentially boycott these businesses.  This is good.  Bottom line is we all want to protect the kids, and we can all agree that this is a major problem and we can all do better to stop it.

ESG is doing zilch to fight human trafficking outside of maybe lip service.  In fact their support for open borders and illegal immigration is a major contributor to the growth of human trafficking