So this Biden vs Trump poll.

[tubby_mcgee 662]

Take a look and then give your opinion on the following two questions. 

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/29/biden-trump-2024-age-legal-issues

 

Biden's biggest problem. according to the poll is that he's OLD, SLOW AND CONFUSED.
Question 1: Where does does society get this view/where are they gathering information to come to this view?

Trumps biggest problem, according to the poll is that he's CROOKED, CRIMINAL AND CORRUPT.
Question 2:  1: Where does does society get this view/where are they gathering information to come to this view?

Let the fighting and answering questions I didn't ask begin.  (That's what folks do --they answer question's not asked. I don't see why it will be any different here)

Please Answer the questions I asked.
 

[Mike Hunt 120]

1. Watching and listening to Biden with their own eyes. If the blunders gaffes and stumbles happened once or twice it can be overlooked but it is way too often when live. Biden was old when elected but has aged in dog years since.

2. Basically Trump has been indicted and accused how many times now?  Trumps arrogance is also way too much. 

 

I really wish both would go away!

[MDC 5,429]

Seems accurate. 

[IGotWorms 2,846]

I can’t understand OP so sadly I can’t stay within his would-be lanes.

That said, I do think it’s funny that the people who scream 80 is too old are backing a 77 year old.

Newsflash: they’re both too fockin old.

If the republicans put up somebody like Nikki Hayley they’d be able to draw that distinction much better. Whole different generation, sure. But three years younger than 80??  

[tubby_mcgee 662]

Here's my opinion.

Biden gets that because people see it with their own eyes.
Trump gets that because the media says so. 

Certain people go by what their eyes tell them. Certain people refuse to go by their own eyes and they go by what they are told.  Which is fine. To each their own.

Yes Trump and Biden are both old. There's a difference.  Otherwise, you'd have memes and jokes about Trump being old. And videos showing him falling up stairs and wandering aimlessly, mumbling, etc. 

This whole thing, like many instances of he said she said, corruption this, corruption that, etc etc etc come down to motive. 

Motive means everything. 

 

[tubby_mcgee 662]

17 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

 I do think it’s funny that the people who scream 80 is too old are backing a 77 year old.

Newsflash: they’re both too fockin old.

 But three years younger than 80??  

How old are you and how often do you work out? Are you physically imposing? Fatty?  What? (I'm going to show you there is a difference. Well. No, I won't, because you'll back down now., lol)

 

I think its funny some 30, 40 or 50+ year olds are wirey or fat.  They made the decision to say "fock it" and let their body go. I wanna see where you're at.    

[IGotWorms 2,846]

1 minute ago, tubby_mcgee said:

How old are you and how often do you work out? Are you physically imposing? Fatty?  What? (I'm going to show you there is a difference. Well. No, I won't, because you'll back down now., lol)

Yes Trump is a huge fatty and never works out by his own admission. Thanks for pointing that out.

Twist and contort all you want — fact is they are both old as fock

[tubby_mcgee 662]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

Yes Trump is a huge fatty and never works out by his own admission. Thanks for pointing that out.

Twist and contort all you want — fact is they are both old as fock

That's what I thought.  You backed down.

In other words, you're an out of shape fatty or simply an out shape "skinny fat" person. Way to give up on life.  Quite a way to live.

[5-Points 2,502]

Answer #1 From my own two eyes

Answer #2 From the lying, colluding, Dem water carrying media. 

Biden is gone, mentally. His handlers know it but they can't let the electorate know that, yet. He isn't calling any shots. He's doing and saying what he is told to do and say. The Dems basically staged a quiet coup against their own guy and they will cut him loose when it is convenient for them to do so.

Trump isn't nearly as corrupt as the career politicians screaming that he's corrupt. Their problem is he isn't beholden to any of them and they're scared shitless he will out them all if he gets re-elected. They've been investigating him since he announced the first time and they've come up with squat. Oh, they'll tell everyone that he's committed heinous crimes, they'll manufacture "evidence", they will railroad an innocent man to save their own skins but in the end, he hasn't committed any of the crimes of which he's been accused. He's a problem for them and, therefore, he's gotta go. 

[5-Points 2,502]

32 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I can’t understand OP so sadly I can’t stay within his would-be lanes.

That said, I do think it’s funny that the people who scream 80 is too old are backing a 77 year old.

Newsflash: they’re both too fockin old.

If the republicans put up somebody like Nikki Hayley they’d be able to draw that distinction much better. Whole different generation, sure. But three years younger than 80??  

Trump aged less as POTUS than anyone I can remember. POTUS is a stressful job and it visibility ages people. Trump looked pretty much the same the day he started and on his last day. 

I attribute that to his normal daily schedule. He slept maybe 4 hours a day BEFORE he became POTUS. He was used to a brutal schedule. He was used to high stress situations and negotiations. Those things took less of a toll on him than they did previous presidents. 

[IGotWorms 2,846]

22 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

That's what I thought.  You backed down.

In other words, you're an out of shape fatty or simply an out shape "skinny fat" person. Way to give up on life.  Quite a way to live.

[weepaws 2,205]

1 hour ago, tubby_mcgee said:

Take a look and then give your opinion on the following two questions. 

https://www.axios.com/2023/08/29/biden-trump-2024-age-legal-issues

 

Biden's biggest problem. according to the poll is that he's OLD, SLOW AND CONFUSED.
Question 1: Where does does society get this view/where are they gathering information to come to this view?

Trumps biggest problem, according to the poll is that he's CROOKED, CRIMINAL AND CORRUPT.
Question 2:  1: Where does does society get this view/where are they gathering information to come to this view?

Let the fighting and answering questions I didn't ask begin.  (That's what folks do --they answer question's not asked. I don't see why it will be any different here)

Please Answer the questions I asked.
 

It speaks the truth about both of those two wicked men.   But sadly these two are running for president of America. 

There was a time when these two would be locked up, now we vote them as president.  

[seafoam1 1,370]

26 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

That's what I thought.  You backed down.

In other words, you're an out of shape fatty or simply an out shape "skinny fat" person. Way to give up on life.  Quite a way to live.

He is.

[JustinCharge 2,394]

1 hour ago, Mike Hunt said:

1. Watching and listening to Biden with their own eyes. If the blunders gaffes and stumbles happened once or twice it can be overlooked but it is way too often when live. Biden was old when elected but has aged in dog years since.

The truth is biden was making blunders, outright lying, and totally corrupt his entire life.  Just look at his white house run from like 40 years ago.  He just knows how to play the game. His plan is to ignore his own gaffes because if he actually starts making headway, the MSM will cover for him. 

[JustinCharge 2,394]

11 minutes ago, weepaws said:

It speaks the truth about both of those two wicked men.   But sadly these two are running for president of America. 

There was a time when these two would be locked up, now we vote them as president.  

No sane person would run for president.  Why submit you and your family to public scrutiny when you can sit quietly on a corporate board and own your business and a happy serene life?

[thegeneral 843]

Biden is old. 

Trump is an indicted crook.

It’s pretty simple.

[MDC 5,429]

54 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

Here's my opinion.

Biden gets that because people see it with their own eyes.
Trump gets that because the media says so. 

Trump’s scumbaggery and Biden’s confusion are apparent to anyone who isn’t a partisan hack without the media’s help. 

[MDC 5,429]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

I can’t understand OP so sadly I can’t stay within his would-be lanes.

That said, I do think it’s funny that the people who scream 80 is too old are backing a 77 year old.

Newsflash: they’re both too fockin old.

If the republicans put up somebody like Nikki Hayley they’d be able to draw that distinction much better. Whole different generation, sure. But three years younger than 80??  

Trump obviously has more energy than Biden. You can see it in the way they speak, walk, carry themselves etc. 

[thegeneral 843]

31 minutes ago, MDC said:

Trump’s scumbaggery and Biden’s confusion are apparent to anyone who isn’t a partisan hack without the media’s help. 

Are we really sure Trump is all there.

I don’t recall Trump talking coherently about much of anything in past year or so other than the stolen election delusional ramblings.

He pussed out on the debates as well.

[MDC 5,429]

8 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Are we really sure Trump is all there.

I don’t recall Trump talking coherently about much of anything in past year or so other than the stolen election delusional ramblings.

He pussed out on the debates as well.

Biden is old and looks close to dementia. Trump is spry but he’s nuts. I’m not convinced Nevin Ed one is better than the other. I’ll probably be voting for someone else.

[thegeneral 843]

14 minutes ago, MDC said:

Biden is old and looks close to dementia. Trump is spry but he’s nuts. I’m not convinced Nevin Ed one is better than the other. I’ll probably be voting for someone else.

Spry

[MDC 5,429]

16 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Spry

I don’t know any 77 y/os who can talk at that volume and pace. He’s got a lot of energy for a guy his age. Unfortunately he’s a loon.

[JustinCharge 2,394]

43 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Are we really sure Trump is all there.

I don’t recall Trump talking coherently about much of anything in past year or so other than the stolen election delusional ramblings.

He pussed out on the debates as well.

Ah yes the voice of the moderate

[thegeneral 843]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

I don’t know any 77 y/os who can talk at that volume and pace. He’s got a lot of energy for a guy his age. Unfortunately he’s a loon.

“For a guy his age” he can talk a lot.

[thegeneral 843]

2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Ah yes the voice of the moderate

Notice you didn’t comment on the topic at hand. Trump appears to be losing his marbles and is a crook. This isn’t the media telling me this, it’s observable. All he talks about is a lost election years ago and various rants and he’s been indicted multiple times. 

Biden is old as fock and looks like it. 

 

[MDC 5,429]

9 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

“For a guy his age” he can talk a lot.

Yeah. And Biden can’t. The difference in energy is obvious to anyone being honest.

[thegeneral 843]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

Yeah. And Biden can’t. The difference in energy is obvious to anyone being honest.

I don’t know if even agree with that TBH. I don’t really give a shet though. Both these candidates have pretty big negatives to overcome. Trump should be ineligible however. 

In any case the question of the thread is why do people believe Biden is old and Trump is crooked. It’s by watching them. It’s not that hard a question. 

[seafoam1 1,370]

2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I can’t understand OP so sadly I can’t stay within his would-be lanes.

That said, I do think it’s funny that the people who scream 80 is too old are backing a 77 year old.

Newsflash: they’re both too fockin old.

If the republicans put up somebody like Nikki Hayley they’d be able to draw that distinction much better. Whole different generation, sure. But three years younger than 80??  

Talk about another liberal who so blind to not see the difference between a bumbling confused falling down retard like biden vs. a clear headed sharp person in Trump. It's mind-boggling how stupid liberals are. 

[IGotWorms 2,846]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

Trump obviously has more energy than Biden. You can see it in the way they speak, walk, carry themselves etc. 

See this is like going to the old folks’ home and marveling at the codger still chasing skirts.

Yeah it’s impressive. But still, he’s past the normal life expectancy aka is old as fock.

[Bill E. 634]

The answer to both questions is the same. 

IMO it is not that Biden is too old, he is feeble mentally and physically.  People confuse the two issues.  Mick Jagger is as old but can still bring it mentally and physically.  Like someone here said people say he is too old because every once in awhile the MSM accidentally runs something that shows the condition that he is truly in.  They try to hide most of it. 

People believe Trump is crooked because the MSM keeps hammering that home over and over.  Russia, Ukraine, children in cages and on and on.  IMO his problem is his ego and the fact that he will not shut up.   Rush Limbaugh used to talk a lot like Trump acts to entertain the audience but I believe that was mostly an act.  It can be funny to see in an entertainer but painful to see in a POTUS.  For Trump it is who he is and IMO his greatest flaw.

[avoiding injuries 1,165]

1. Physical appearance, falling, inability to speak coherently, rambling about nonsense, lost complete control of his situational awareness, needs assistance with walking and talking, etc. 

2. Russia hoax, impeachments, indictments, media, opposed by both parties which leaves him no protection, labeled a racist by the left, mean tweets. 

[weepaws 2,205]

2 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

No sane person would run for president.  Why submit you and your family to public scrutiny when you can sit quietly on a corporate board and own your business and a happy serene life?

I’m not running for president, so your question is for the ones that will be.  

Thanks. 

[JustinCharge 2,394]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Notice you didn’t comment on the topic at hand. Trump appears to be losing his marbles and is a crook. This isn’t the media telling me this, it’s observable. All he talks about is a lost election years ago and various rants and he’s been indicted multiple times. 

Biden is old as fock and looks like it. 

 

Dont you EVER talk down to me.  Youve made it perfectly clear that you are NOT here for genuine discourse.  You are here to be a liberal bot that wants to guilt trip or launch personal attacks.  You need a beating not a debate you twerp. 

[thegeneral 843]

2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Dont you EVER talk down to me.  Youve made it perfectly clear that you are NOT here for genuine discourse.  You are here to be a liberal bot that wants to guilt trip or launch personal attacks.  You need a beating not a debate you twerp. 

You still didn’t weigh in

You could try that and not be so butthurt.

[MDC 5,429]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

I don’t know if even agree with that TBH. I don’t really give a shet though. Both these candidates have pretty big negatives to overcome. Trump should be ineligible however. 

In any case the question of the thread is why do people believe Biden is old and Trump is crooked. It’s by watching them. It’s not that hard a question. 

I answered that question the same way, like post 3-4.  

[MDC 5,429]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

See this is like going to the old folks’ home and marveling at the codger still chasing skirts.

Yeah it’s impressive. But still, he’s past the normal life expectancy aka is old as fock.

Both are too old to run. One seems like he’s on death’s door and the other is insane. It’s not a great choice. 

[Hardcore troubadour 11,518]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Are we really sure Trump is all there.

I don’t recall Trump talking coherently about much of anything in past year or so other than the stolen election delusional ramblings.

He pussed out on the debates as well.

Biden has pussed out on his (illegitimate) presidency.  Calls a lid at lunch everyday.  

[BufordT 365]

17 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Trump aged less as POTUS than anyone I can remember. POTUS is a stressful job and it visibility ages people. Trump looked pretty much the same the day he started and on his last day. 

I attribute that to his normal daily schedule. He slept maybe 4 hours a day BEFORE he became POTUS. He was used to a brutal schedule. He was used to high stress situations and negotiations. Those things took less of a toll on him than they did previous presidents. 

That’s because he wears more makeup and hairspray than any president in history. Probably any First Lady in history as well. 

[Engorgeous George 855]

49 minutes ago, BufordT said:

That’s because he wears more makeup and hairspray than any president in history. Probably any First Lady in history as well. 

Nonsense.  Jackie Kennedy, Ladybird Johnson, Pat Nixon and Rosalynn Carter all contributed mightily to the hole in the ozone.  I would put Trump no higher than #5.  Also, I think he is using up the last of a pallet of mousse he bought back in the 80's, not hairspray.

[JustinCharge 2,394]

there are some terrible jokes out there.  be careful.