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9 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Took out chubbs knee

Minkah you cheap shottin mo focker!!!

I disagree, it looks like he just ducked down to let Chubb get dragged over him and down.

https://twitter.com/search?q=nick chubb&src=typeahead_click

Turrble injury though.  :( 

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One of those terrible injuries that happens a couple times a season. It’s crazy it doesn’t happen more often, these dudes are flying around at top speed and there are a hundred ways a leg can get trapped like that.

RB’s are never gonna get paid again unless they change the contract structure. 

Hope Chubb makes it back, beast.

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I hate to see these RBs going down. I want to see the mobile QBs getting carted off the field. Let's get back to old fashioned pocket passers. 

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I like Chubb and he is quite an athlete.   But dime a dozen.  This is why they don't get paid.  Injury risk, short prime.  Then look at thr backup Jones.  Chubb was having a nice game.  Jones came in and averaged a HIGHER ypc.  And seemingly catches the ball more.  

Aaron Jones a 5th round RB.  Doesn't play.  2nd rounder AJ Dillon gets the opportunity.   Just stumbling bumbling around.  In last 6 games has failed to avg more than 3.7 per carry with a long run of 11.  Yet Jones is routinely high in yards per carry each year.  

Take mid to late round guys who will work hard and have at least 1 attribute.  RBBC a couple together.  The fact teams are still incapable of understanding this is mind boggling.  

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14 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

The fact teams are still incapable of understanding this is mind boggling.  

They do understand this, which is why RBs aren't getting paid anymore and there are barely any "bell cow" RBs in the league

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18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

They do understand this, which is why RBs aren't getting paid anymore and there are barely any "bell cow" RBs in the league

 

34 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I like Chubb and he is quite an athlete.   But dime a dozen.  This is why they don't get paid.  Injury risk, short prime.  Then look at thr backup Jones.  Chubb was having a nice game.  Jones came in and averaged a HIGHER ypc.  And seemingly catches the ball more.  

Aaron Jones a 5th round RB.  Doesn't play.  2nd rounder AJ Dillon gets the opportunity.   Just stumbling bumbling around.  In last 6 games has failed to avg more than 3.7 per carry with a long run of 11.  Yet Jones is routinely high in yards per carry each year.  

Take mid to late round guys who will work hard and have at least 1 attribute.  RBBC a couple together.  The fact teams are still incapable of understanding this is mind boggling.  

You’re right .  Two running backs went in the first round last year, even worse by two teams that are still building. 

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16 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

They do understand this, which is why RBs aren't getting paid anymore and there are barely any "bell cow" RBs in the league

I get that.  But they still take them early sometimes.  See Bijon just this year.  Yeah he is more talented than 5th rounders and ATL wants to run.  But it is unnecessary.   Teams still took a peek at trading for JT and paying him.  

Yeah the league has changed over the years.  But they are being pretty stubborn on getting there.  RBs being a dime a dozen has been known for years now.  Still get Barkley going 2.  Still get Fournette who doesn't have a job going like 4th or something.  Mind boggling.  

Cmac is good.  But in the 9ers offense they could get a couple mid guys and run the ball.  Instead of trading and paying a RB.  

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Packers had Jones and Williams both nice players in 4th and 5th.  A couple years later they go ahead and take AJ Dillon in the 2nd.  Why?

Before this year the Bills kept taking RBs in the 2nd or 3rd while wanying to pass.  Singletary.  Moss.  Cook.  Again, why? Total waste of resources.   

Instead of trying to add to an average oline the Jets spent 8 mill this year on Dalvin Cook who is their 2nd best RB on the team.  

Ekeler got money.  He didn't play last week and the Chargers still suck.  

 

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This is why teams don`t pay over pay RBs.  Draft them and use them up on rookie contracts.  

Don`t waste cap space on big $$$$ FAs or extensions for RBs.

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Just now, MDC said:

Is Jerome Ford worth an add? 

Um yeah..  Maybe they go out and get a vet but either way he looked solid.  He will at least have a nice role behind a good oline even if he isn't completely featured.  

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Barkley on 29 carries this season was averaging 3.9 per carry.  A "top" RB that yeah they didn't give a long deal to but is still making 4x as much this season as as guy who could do is job the same.   

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2 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Barkley on 29 carries this season was averaging 3.9 per carry.  A "top" RB that yeah they didn't give a long deal to but is still making 4x as much this season as as guy who could do is job the same.   

Well we're gonna see.  Breida starts the next handful of games.  He's not as talented as Barkley but should be fine.

I'm not at the point where I say RBs are a dime a dozen, but there clearly is no reason to invest in a RB with a large contract or high picks.

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Just now, GutterBoy said:

Well we're gonna see.  Breida starts the next handful of games.  He's not as talented as Barkley but should be fine.

I'm not at the point where I say RBs are a dime a dozen, but there clearly is no reason to invest in a RB with a large contract or high picks.

All things equal with money no object and no value in draft picks.....yeah.  The top RBs are more talented and I would rather have them than a 5th round talent.  

But there is zero value in it.  The gap isn't wide enough to matter.   Pacheco was the starting RB at the end of the year for thr SB winning chiefs.  A 7th round rookie.  

RBs hardly matter.   It is taking teams way to lo g to realize this.  Anyone with any sense of the league has been yelling this for a decade.  

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14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Well we're gonna see.  Breida starts the next handful of games.  He's not as talented as Barkley but should be fine.

I'm not at the point where I say RBs are a dime a dozen, but there clearly is no reason to invest in a RB with a large contract or high picks.

Saquon is a perfect example. GMen draft him 2 overall and they’ve gone 29-54-1 with one WC playoff win since. Now he’s hurt and he’ll leave next year.

Well done Football Giants. :doh: 

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3 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

I like Chubb and he is quite an athlete.   But dime a dozen.  This is why they don't get paid.  Injury risk, short prime.  Then look at thr backup Jones.  Chubb was having a nice game.  Jones came in and averaged a HIGHER ypc.  And seemingly catches the ball more.  

Aaron Jones a 5th round RB.  Doesn't play.  2nd rounder AJ Dillon gets the opportunity.   Just stumbling bumbling around.  In last 6 games has failed to avg more than 3.7 per carry with a long run of 11.  Yet Jones is routinely high in yards per carry each year.  

Take mid to late round guys who will work hard and have at least 1 attribute.  RBBC a couple together.  The fact teams are still incapable of understanding this is mind boggling.  

The only counter argument is it makes it obvious what you’re likely to do based on which RB is out there. If you’ve got the pounder you’re probably running. If you’ve got the scat back then it’s likely a pass play.

But obviously that’s not a significant issue. It used to be but the game has changed 

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39 minutes ago, MDC said:

Saquon is a perfect example. GMen draft him 2 overall and they’ve gone 29-54-1 with one WC playoff win since. Now he’s hurt and he’ll leave next year.

Well done Football Giants. :doh: 

Yeah Gettleman thought he was the missing piece to a super bowl run.  That's why Gettleman is no longer with the Giants.

Also...

 

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4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yeah Gettleman thought he was the missing piece to a super bowl run.  That's why Gettleman is no longer with the Giants.

Also...

 

That was a horrible draft pick but 20+ other teams also passed on JJ including the Giants and going RB 2 overall is so dumb that even when you draft a stud like Saquon it’s still retarded. :thumbsup: 

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10 minutes ago, MDC said:

That was a horrible draft pick but 20+ other teams also passed on JJ including the Giants and going RB 2 overall is so dumb that even when you draft a stud like Saquon it’s still retarded. :thumbsup: 

The Giants passed on Jefferson to take their franchise left tackle, which was a good pick.  Ruggs was the first WR to go to the Raiders, terrible pick, Jeudy who has been decent, then Lamb who is solid, then Reagor, terrible pick, then JJ, Aiyuk and Higgins.

And yes, as I said, the Saquon pick was not good value, but at least he's still a top 5 RB in the league.

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

The Giants passed on Jefferson to take their franchise left tackle, which was a good pick.  Ruggs was the first WR to go to the Raiders, terrible pick, Jeudy who has been decent, then Lamb who is solid, then Reagor, terrible pick, then JJ, Aiyuk and Higgins.

And yes, as I said, the Saquon pick was not good value, but at least he's still a top 5 RB in the league.

Yep, Saquon should do well on a better team next year. Thanks for the memories, like that time we went 9-7-1 and won a wild card game. 

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1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

The only counter argument is it makes it obvious what you’re likely to do based on which RB is out there. If you’ve got the pounder you’re probably running. If you’ve got the scat back then it’s likely a pass play.

But obviously that’s not a significant issue. It used to be but the game has changed 

Also reading my post back I meant Ford.  Not sure where I got Jones from.  

I get that but 80% of teams use RBBC now anyway.  You don't have to throw it when your scat back is in. And you don't have to pound it all the time with thr big back.  You can catch your opponent off guard.  Also not every RBBC has to be thunder and lightning.   ATL has a little committee.   Robinson is a big boy and they use him to catch the ball a ton.  Which RB for the Chiefs is the designated scat or pounder?  

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