SaintsInDome2006 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It came up becase Real Tim, I’m sure you, and the rest of the libtards claimed that they if you said Covid was Chinas fault you were a racist. And that relates to Trump initiating war with Iran, how??? Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 15 Posted April 15 5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: And that relates to Trump initiating war with Iran, how??? Take it up with Tim. But you won’t. Also Trump didn’t start this war. Iran did a long time ago. He just said enough of this bullshitt and did what all the people you voted for said they would do too. Quote
GobbleDog Posted April 15 Posted April 15 47 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Also Trump didn’t start this war. Iran did a long time ago. If Iran started the war "a long time ago" then why didn't Trump attack Iran during his first administration? And why did he wait well over a year to attack Iran into a second administration? And why was he trying to negotiate a nuclear deal with a country we're at war with? Just pure coincidence the attack started after Trump's negotiations with Iran didn't go well.?. C'mon. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 minutes ago, GobbleDog said: If Iran started the star "a long time ago" then why didn't Trump attack Iran during his first administration? And why did he wait well over a year to attack Iran into a second administration? And why was he trying to negotiate a nuclear deal with a country we're at war with? Just pure coincidence the attack started after Trump's negotiations with Iran didn't go well.?. C'mon. His first administration was robbed from him. 1 Quote
HotRod Posted April 15 Posted April 15 41 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Take it up with Tim. But you won’t. Also Trump didn’t start this war. Iran did a long time ago. He just said enough of this bullshitt and did what all the people you voted for said they would do too. President Trump said he wouldn't start any new wars which is why I voted for him. Quote
HotRod Posted April 15 Posted April 15 they are saying that high gas prices are transitory i heard that before Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 15 Posted April 15 45 minutes ago, HotRod said: President Trump said he wouldn't start any new wars which is why I voted for him. He didn’t start it. HTH. Quote
HotRod Posted April 15 Posted April 15 21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He didn’t start it. HTH. This is the neocon line 1 Quote
JuneJuly Posted April 15 Posted April 15 2 hours ago, JuneJuly said: Down another 10 cents today. Crisis!!!! Lol Market surges to an all time high. Crisis!!!!! Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 It’s interesting how Doocy has realized he’s one of the few people free to do actual journalism at these harangues. 1 Quote
JuneJuly Posted April 15 Posted April 15 1 hour ago, HotRod said: President Trump said he wouldn't start any new wars which is why I voted for him. Get the quote right bro. No new never ending wars. This one is about done. 1 Quote
HotRod Posted April 15 Posted April 15 8 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: Get the quote right bro. No new never ending wars. This one is about done. you were never at a rally I was there when he said no more wars. President of peace. Quote
FrancieFootball Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Man, this war is going to be over any minute! Hot diggity! Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted April 15 Posted April 15 Just spitballing & guesstimating but my guess is the sticking point is that the agreement the administration is looking at is going to look a lot like the JCPOA. Which is what happened with Nafta. Trump’s people know that we are going to end up with 1. a JCPOA v2 deal when Trump unilaterally & personally tore up v1, & 2. a declaration that Hormuz is open, which it was before the war. Meanwhile Iran will be getting something (TBD) which it had no hope of obtaining pre-war (for instance something like a security guarantee). Quote
thegeneral Posted April 15 Posted April 15 4 hours ago, Gepetto said: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116408554531050811 Clown show Quote
GobbleDog Posted April 15 Posted April 15 15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Meanwhile Iran will be getting something (TBD) which it had no hope of obtaining pre-war (for instance something like a security guarantee). Security guarantee, fewer US bases in the region, assets unfrozen, sanction relief, possible reparations.?. Doesn't sound like the "unconditional surrender" Trump demanded. 1 Quote
FrancieFootball Posted April 15 Posted April 15 31 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Just spitballing & guesstimating but my guess is the sticking point is that the agreement the administration is looking at is going to look a lot like the JCPOA. Which is what happened with Nafta. Trump’s people know that we are going to end up with 1. a JCPOA v2 deal when Trump unilaterally & personally tore up v1, & 2. a declaration that Hormuz is open, which it was before the war. Meanwhile Iran will be getting something (TBD) which it had no hope of obtaining pre-war (for instance something like a security guarantee). I thought Trump had demanded unconditional surrender. LOL. Quote
TimHauck Posted April 16 Posted April 16 5 hours ago, HotRod said: you were never at a rally I was there when he said no more wars. President of peace. bUt He DiDn’T sTaRt ThIs WaR, iRaN dId DeCaDeS aGo Quote
Gepetto Posted April 16 Posted April 16 If Iran's enriched uranium is buried since the 2025 bombings, how could Iran have been a threat to create a nuclear bomb in weeks as of February 2026? 1 Quote
Voltaire Posted April 16 Posted April 16 11 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: Putting aside your highly questionable source this is possible. We don’t know if or when Iran’s government might collapse and when it does it might be sudden. Hopefully it happens. But there are also strong signs that it won’t given the strong control that the military now has over that country. And in the meantime, Iran is threatening to retaliate to the blockade by closing the Red Sea. Maybe they can invade Washington DC or, even better, blow up the sun while they're at it. That'll really show us! Honestly Tim, Iran barely has the ability to harangue ships in the Strait of Hormuz. But barely does count. Fair enough. What they can't do is project squat in the Red Sea at this point. You can't take their military threats seriously. Their terrrorist cell threats are another story. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted April 16 Posted April 16 24 minutes ago, Gepetto said: If Iran's enriched uranium is buried since the 2025 bombings, how could Iran have been a threat to create a nuclear bomb in weeks as of February 2026? Very, very good point. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 16 Posted April 16 24 minutes ago, Gepetto said: If Iran's enriched uranium is buried since the 2025 bombings, how could Iran have been a threat to create a nuclear bomb in weeks as of February 2026? So you just want to take chances with Iran? Maybe they can, maybe they can't. Let's not worry about it until it happens. Quote
Gepetto Posted April 16 Posted April 16 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: So you just want to take chances with Iran? Maybe they can, maybe they can't. Let's not worry about it until it happens. I want to understand the messaging from the White House. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 16 Posted April 16 6 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Maybe they can invade Washington DC or, even better, blow up the sun while they're at it. That'll really show us! Sigh. I’m not suggesting fantasy here. The threat to the Red Sea is a real one. Look we all have to hope that this blockade works. Nobody that is sane is rooting for it to fail. There has to be a deal negotiated where the strait is open. And it has to be soon. If Iran surrenders I will congratulate Trump on a sound strategy. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: bUt He DiDn’T sTaRt ThIs WaR, iRaN dId DeCaDeS aGo Why do you type like that? Is that your low IQ on display? And yeah. Blowing up iran has been a long time coming. No way should it stop.now. Gotta finish them once and for all. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Just now, Gepetto said: I want to understand the messaging from the White House. What’s not to understand? Trump lied to exaggerate the immediacy of the threat. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: And yeah. Blowing up iran has been a long time coming. No way should it stop.now. Gotta finish them once and for all. Does this mean you will regard any end to this war that leaves the current Iranian regime intact as a failure by Trump and the USA? Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Just now, Gepetto said: I want to understand the messaging from the White House. Disarm them and keep them from building a nuclear missile system. It's not easy. I say just keep beating the crap out of them for all the terrorism they have sponsored over the years. It's completely justified and healthy for the world in general. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Just now, Caine Mutiny said: Does this mean you will regard any end to this war that leaves the current Iranian regime intact as a failure by Trump and the USA? I don't give a shlt about their regime. I want that country decapitated. Those dopes can live and lead a group of angry idiots with no power, no weaponry, no money and no homes and that's perfect for me. Quote
Voltaire Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Just now, Caine Mutiny said: Sigh. I’m not suggesting fantasy here. The threat to the Red Sea is a real one. Look we all have to hope that this blockade works. Nobody that is sane is rooting for it to fail. There has to be a deal negotiated where the strait is open. And it has to be soon. If Iran surrenders I will congratulate Trump on a sound strategy. He's choking them economically as well as militarily. Their economy was already bad before the war even started. I'm learning a lot of these countries had already established backdoor pipeline routes that bypass the Strait of Hormuz for just this scenario. Obviously the best/ideal way to transport oil is opening the Strait, otherwise these alternative pipelines would have been the primary ones. Also alternative sources are coming online. So opening the Strait may not be as super critical as it seemed at first. Or so I hope. Its hard to make sense of all the noise out there. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 16 Posted April 16 Under Obama our navy took a serious hit. Now we know why. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 16 Posted April 16 46 minutes ago, Voltaire said: He's choking them economically as well as militarily. Their economy was already bad before the war even started. I'm learning a lot of these countries had already established backdoor pipeline routes that bypass the Strait of Hormuz for just this scenario. Obviously the best/ideal way to transport oil is opening the Strait, otherwise these alternative pipelines would have been the primary ones. Also alternative sources are coming online. So opening the Strait may not be as super critical as it seemed at first. Or so I hope. Its hard to make sense of all the noise out there. Don't you realize that Timmy just wants you to be scared and tell everyone you know that you are scared? Quote
Voltaire Posted April 16 Posted April 16 4 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Don't you realize that Timmy just wants you to be scared and tell everyone you know that you are scared? I think if the ceasefire ends with no agreement reached, Trump will bomb the fock out of them for a few more days, then scale things back to this blockade to choke them to death economically and maybe a special sortie every now and again whenever a juicy target is found. 1 Quote
nobody Posted April 16 Posted April 16 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Under Obama our navy took a serious hit. Now we know why. Why? Quote
thegeneral Posted April 16 Posted April 16 3 hours ago, Gepetto said: If Iran's enriched uranium is buried since the 2025 bombings, how could Iran have been a threat to create a nuclear bomb in weeks as of February 2026? That was almost assuredly made up. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 16 Posted April 16 7 hours ago, nobody said: Why? He’s a muslim Quote
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