Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

[OldMaid]

26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’m so hoping this is true. But NBC, Emerson, Quinnipiac are all showing Trump gaining and none of them are right wing polls. 

Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re playing this game, too. Apparently, a close race generates more clicks. Either way, we are about to find out. 

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

48 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

Couple of interesting articles:

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-vs-trump-analyst-tells-panicky-dems-gop-is-creating-fake-polls-desperate-unhinged-trumpian.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/31/us/politics/polling-election-2022-red-wave.html

The 2nd one is embedded into the first article, but is behind the NYT paywall. Plug it into archive.is and you can read it for free.

This helps the GOP in 3 ways:

1. It will bolster the claims that the 2024 election was rigged again.

2. Aims at tricking Democrats to misallocating funds-ie: spending where they don’t need to and not where they do. Not trusting their own internal polls. 

3. Create enthusiasm within the base and suppress the enthusiasm of the Democratic party.

Number 3, IMO could easily backfire. D’s very may well have a higher turnout if they think they are losing. It may also give cover to the sane R’s that didn’t really want to vote for Trump, to sit this one out.

 

 

Feel free to  all you want, but this is exactly what was behind the "red wave" of 2022 that failed to come to fruition. 

 

Conspiracy theories now, OM?   I expected better. 

[OldMaid]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Conspiracy theories now, OM?   I expected better. 

If something actually happened, it not a conspiracy, Max. 2022 wasn’t that long ago. They were releasing polls that actually had Dr. Oz winning in PA.

I really don’t care if you guys laugh at this, just don’t blame me when you end up disappointed again in Nov.

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

Just now, OldMaid said:

If something actually happened, it not a conspiracy, Max. 2022 wasn’t that long ago. They were releasing polls that actually had Dr. Oz winning in PA.

I really don’t care if you guys laugh at this, just don’t blame me when you end up disappointed again in Nov.

I'm prepared for the election to go either way.  I'm not going to lose my sh#t like you guys are if Trump wins. 

[OldMaid]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm prepared for the election to go either way.  I'm not going to lose my sh#t like you guys are if Trump wins. 

I’m not going to lose my sh!t, either. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

2 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

I’m not going to lose my sh!t, either. 

We'll see, but history isn't on your side. 

[Horseman]

48 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Wow you really are classless aren’t you? Possibly a new low in this forum, wouldn’t have thought that possible. 

You once promised to never post here because it was so vile. But then you got your safe space shut down. 

[The Real timschochet]

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You once promised to never post here because it was so vile. But then you got your safe space shut down. 

Thats true. At the time I wrote that I didn’t know there were some decent people here who make thoughtful posts. You’re not a dumb guy, you could be one of them. So far you’ve avoided it. 

[Horseman]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thats true. At the time I wrote that I didn’t know there were some decent people here who make thoughtful posts. You’re not a dumb guy, you could be one of them. So far you’ve avoided it. 

You always have excuses for lying and breaking promises. 

[Horseman]

Betting odds keep moving. Trump -140 and -145.  More momentum than Kackala ever had.  Biden and Obama not helping.  Doing press interviews not helping.  She's cooked.  

[supermike80]

The media will ramp up big time in the next month.  It will be amazing and awful to see just how hard they will try to damage Trump. 

It will be an endless onslaught

[Reality]

Border Patrol Union, big time endorsement for Trump. I'll listen to the boots on the ground.

You either want a safe country and a secure border or you vote Democrat. It's that simple.

 

[Hardcore troubadour]

SNL clowning Kamala. lol. 

[Frozenbeernuts]

Some good testimony and research here. I wonder why Bill Barr was so irate and told them to stand down. I get that the election fraud got your guy elected, but it's really sad that some of you are OK with this. If Trump rigged a US election I would want him thrown in prison.

I think it actually worked out better this way though. We got to see how desperate the left is, and what depths they will go to bring down this country. Someone is paying politicians to destroy America. It's ok, so long as they get money and whatever blackmail is on them doesn't get out.

https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/1845487860251816364?s=19

[Frozenbeernuts]

Weird how the people in power for 28 of the last 32 years are blaming Trump for all the problems.

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1845187476559737276?s=19

[The Real timschochet]

So there’s a ton of articles out there today about Trump surging ahead. But if you look deeper at them it’s not happening. That doesn’t mean it won’t. But in most polls Harris remains ahead, just by smaller margins, and in a few she’s tied. This is true both nationally and in the most important of the swing states. Now many people are arguing that a 1 point lead or tie for Harris is actually a win for Trump because of the “hidden Trump vote”. But that assumes that pollsters are repeating the same mistakes made in 2016 and 2020 and I’m not buying it. It also assumes that there is no hidden Harris vote among Republicans and I’m not quite buying that either. I expect there will be some real surprises on election night but it’s anyone’s guess in which direction those surprises will fall. For now, I think we should assume that a 1 point lead or a tie is exactly what it is supposed to be: a 1 point lead or a tie. And given the current numbers I would still rather be in Harris’ position rather than Trump’s. At the moment she still has the advantage however slight. 

[Horseman]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So there’s a ton of articles out there today about Trump surging ahead. But...deny....lie....lie... lie some more.    

Cuckadoodledooo!   Cuckadoodledooo!

[HellToupee]

Like him or hate him if you’re being honest Portnoy is % correct 

 

[Hardcore troubadour]

A violent gang from another country came here and by force took control of several apartment complexes. Not widespread 

[TrailGuy]

6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

A violent gang from another country came here and by force took control of several apartment complexes. Not widespread 

This has been proven to be a lie.

[Hardcore troubadour]

5 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

This has been proven to be a lie.

Oh yeah? When?

[TrailGuy]

24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh yeah? When?

As soon as it happened.  Trump lies to you all the time.  Stop believing him.

https://www.denver7.com/news/front-range/aurora/venezuelan-immigrants-at-apartment-complex-entangled-in-gang-claims-react-to-trump-rally

[HellToupee]

47 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

This has been proven to be a lie.

Someone should tell Martha Raddatz and ABC news

 

[TrailGuy]

5 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Someone should tell Martha Raddatz and ABC news

 

Did you even watch your clip?  Does she say apartment complexes were taken over? No.

You're not going to believe the Republican mayor and the police department that said this didn't happen?

This is the eating dogs and cats thing all over again.

Surely you're smarter than this right?

[supermike80]

12 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Did you even watch your clip?  Does she say apartment complexes were taken over? No.

You're not going to believe the Republican mayor and the police department that said this didn't happen?

This is the eating dogs and cats thing all over again.

Surely you're smarter than this right?

Are you deaf or something?   She LITERALLY said "a handful of apartment complexes"  WTF

[HellToupee]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Did you even watch your clip?  Does she say apartment complexes were taken over? No.

You're not going to believe the Republican mayor and the police department that said this didn't happen?

This is the eating dogs and cats thing all over again.

Surely you're smarter than this right?

not playing this game 

[Dizkneelande]

“Yes, gangs did take control of our apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, and the government did nothing. That is the real story.”

 

[TrailGuy]

37 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Are you deaf or something?   She LITERALLY said "a handful of apartment complexes"  WTF

"Took control"?  Did she say that?  That's what we're talking about about here.  Venezuela gangs did not take over apartment complexes.  That is a fact and you can't prove me wrong.

[supermike80]

10 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

"Took control"?  Did she say that?  That's what we're talking about about here.  Venezuela gangs did not take over apartment complexes.  That is a fact and you can't prove me wrong.

OH

MY

GOD

[TrailGuy]

50 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

not playing this game 

It's not a game.  We're dealing with the truth here and the truth is not on your side.

[TrailGuy]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

OH

MY

GOD

Truth hurts huh?

[HellToupee]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

OH

MY

GOD

Not worth it, imo. He will have to fire up another random account for me to engage with him again 

[avoiding injuries]

7 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

OH

MY

GOD

He doesn’t realize that when she said “incidents” she was referring to Trump literally saying “took over”. What a clown  

[Dizkneelande]

20 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

"Took control"?  Did she say that?  That's what we're talking about about here.  Venezuela gangs did not take over apartment complexes.  That is a fact and you can't prove me wrong.

I just proved you wrong directly quoting CBZ Management who owns the complexes. 

[Tree of Knowledge]

The people they ran out of the apartment complex have not all canceled their leases, so how can you say it was taken over?  You guys are duped by Fake News Again!!!

(T of K in Boyo Voice)

[TrailGuy]

1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

“Yes, gangs did take control of our apartment complexes in Aurora, Colorado, and the government did nothing. That is the real story.”

 

No, that is not the whole story.  The WHOLE story is the mgmt company is complicit with the misinformation as an excuse to let the buildings go into disrepair.  They can't pay their bills.

https://mronline.org/2024/09/12/how-a-new-york-landlord-exploited-anti-immigrant-propaganda-in-aurora-colorado/

Residents of the apartment complexes in question, however, claim that the landlord, the Brooklyn, New York based CBZ Management, has exploited anti-migrant frenzy as an excuse to neglect repairs in the building. The mayor of Aurora, a conservative himself, has dubbed CBZ Management as “out of state slumlords.”

 

https://www.denver7.com/follow-up/aurora-pauses-closure-plans-of-apartments-at-center-of-venezuelan-gang-claims-after-court-appoints-caretaker

CBZ Management has claimed gang members prevented them from making repairs at their Aurora properties, saying it was too dangerous for their employees to be on site. However, code enforcement and inspection records dating back to 2020 show numerous violations prior to an influx of Venezuelan immigrants in the Denver metro, including mice infestations, ceiling damage, and dozens of unlawful vehicles parked in the parking lot.

 

https://coloradonewsline.com/2024/09/04/disputing-claims-of-gang-takeover-aurora-tenants-protest-slumlord-owner/

Residents at an Aurora apartment complex on Tuesday disputed the viral claims of an armed gang takeover that thrust their building into the national spotlight last week, seeking to redirect attention to a “slumlord” owner who has let their buildings and several others across the city fall into disrepair.

“I have bedbugs in my apartment, I have cockroaches, I have rats. My kids are all covered in bites,” Juan Carlos Alvarado Jimenez, a Venezuelan immigrant living in The Edge at Lowry apartments in northwest Aurora, said through a translator. “I don’t see any criminals here. I think we all know who the real criminals here are.”

[TrailGuy]

34 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

He doesn’t realize that when she said “incidents” she was referring to Trump literally saying “took over”. What a clown  

No, the "incidents" are the actual incidents reported by the police.  Gang members did not "take over" a building.  That was a lie by Trump.

https://sentinelcolorado.com/metro/aurora-police-id-more-armed-men-in-viral-video-no-venezuelan-gang-ties-reported/

[TrailGuy]

36 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

I just proved you wrong directly quoting CBZ Management who owns the complexes. 

CBZ Management is lying, and I showed you evidence of that.  The mgmt company has been neglecting these buildings for years and they are in default of their debt.  They made up the stories to avoid maintaining the buildings.  Now the city has gotten a caretaker to manage these buildings.  The residents who live in these buildings dispute what the mgmt company is saying.  CBZ is part of the problem.

[Frozenbeernuts]

Remember:

It's just a few lost jobs

It's just a few overcrowded schools and hospitals

It's just a few traffic accidents

It's just a few drug dealers

It's just a few rapes

It's just a few murders

It's just a few foreign gangs taking over apartment complexes

The left does not have the capacity to understand what the term slippery slope means. If they did, they wouldn't be on the left. They wouldn't be going down the slippery slope of voting for a mentally bankrupt politician.

For those of us who saw the slippery slope for what it is, some of us later than others (me), we broke from that party and will never return. None of this should happen.

[TrailGuy]

There is no such gun called an AK-47 Supreme.  They're not taking over, they're not carrying the biggest guns he's ever seen, they haven't taken over buildings, it's all lies.