Chiefs WR's

[gcmmidwest 147]

Pretty remarkable chiefs won the Superbowl with a mediocre wide receiver and rb corp ....my question is .... Besides kelce who's the wr to own rice? Or Watson or

[LaChup 215]

In the hoozkow league? Most definitely Rice.

[Maximum Overkill 1,526]

For fantasy it's Worthy. 

[weepaws 3,049]

Rice would be the pick, if he’s able to play.  

[Gepetto 1,208]

Marquise "Hollywood" Brown - he's going to light up the scoreboard this year.

[cmh6476 952]

don't sleep on hollywood

[RareN64Dream 21]

Sleeper at TE for them is 4th round rookie pick; Jared Wiley, he is 6 foot 7 inches tall. Pretty much, same size as Gronk.

[weepaws 3,049]

Brown is the top pick only if Rice isn’t going to be playing.  

[gcmmidwest 147]

7 hours ago, RareN64Dream said:

Sleeper at TE for them is 4th round rookie pick; Jared Wiley, he is 6 foot 7 inches tall. Pretty much, same size as Gronk.

Kelce future replacement?

[RareN64Dream 21]

28 minutes ago, gcmmidwest said:

Kelce future replacement?

Yeah, possibly. I think, dude runs like a 4.5 40 yard dash or something too.

[TBayXXXVII 2,409]

THIS is the guy to have.

[IGotWorms 4,053]

I would’ve said Rice but he’s sure gotten himself into some trouble. I dunno, maybe he somehow skirts punishment or it doesn’t come down this year. Bears watching.

Otherwise I’m saying Hollywood Brown. He’s not actually that great but Worthy will take time to develop, Watson is a JAG, and it doesn’t seem like Moore will turn in to much. Kelce is another year older so they can’t just lean on him even more.

I suppose there’s an outside chance Toney keeps his head screwed on straight for one season? But that’s definitely a dark horse play

[gcmmidwest 147]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Watson is a JAG

???

[Ray_T 723]

18 hours ago, weepaws said:

Rice would be the pick, if he’s able to play.  

even if he plays, hes dicey.   lots of times when players have off field issues it affects their on field production.   Unless I get him for cheap I'm not buying.  someone else can have him.

[IGotWorms 4,053]

16 minutes ago, gcmmidwest said:

???

Just Another Guy

[RareN64Dream 21]

9 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

THIS is the guy to have.

Scared to click the link haha

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5 hours ago, Ray_T said:

even if he plays, hes dicey.   lots of times when players have off field issues it affects their on field production.   Unless I get him for cheap I'm not buying.  someone else can have him.

That’s a great point , he’s human, his ADP has been dropping, so he might be a very value if he’s able to play. And his head is into it.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,409]

17 hours ago, RareN64Dream said:

Scared to click the link haha

Fear not my friend, just a link to an image from a popular 80's movie.

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Breaking the huddle Wednesday, Patrick Mahomes looked at his four receiving options along the line of scrimmage: Kansas City Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce and receivers Marquise Brown, Rashee Rice and Justin Watson.

The next repetition featured a different set of pass catchers from a group that included tight ends Noah Gray and rookie Jared Wiley, and receivers Mecole Hardman and Skyy Moore.

Mahomes, the Super Bowl LVIII MVP, enjoyed his surplus of receiving options throughout the Chiefs’ two-day minicamp. He completed many of his passes in the intermediate and deep parts of the field, he distributed touchdowns to several teammates and he had just one interception — and even that pass Tuesday was an accurate one, the ball bouncing off Kelce’s hands to safety Bryan Cook.

One of the biggest positives for Mahomes this offseason is that he believes these receivers can help elevate the Chiefs offense into being one of the NFL’s best units again.

“I thought Hollywood did a great job coming in and being prepared and learning really fast,” Mahomes said of Brown, who joined the Chiefs in the spring on a one-year deal. “I thought Rashee did a great job. All these guys competed and that’s a good thing to have. I’m excited to get (rookie receiver Xavier) Worthy out there more (in) team-based drills and let him work and learn on the fly.”

Worthy, the Chiefs’ first-round draft pick this year, was the only one of the team’s 13 receivers who didn’t participate in the minicamp. Although Worthy, who is recovering from a strained left hamstring, was held out of the on-field work as a precaution, coach Andy Reid said Thursday that he expects the rookie to be healthy next month for the start of training camp.

When camp begins, Mahomes will continue to refine his passing timing with Brown and Worthy, who ran the 40-yard dash in a record-setting 4.21 seconds at the NFL combine.

“The first impression is that those guys are blazers,” Watson said of his new teammates. “They’re a different level of speed, and defenses are going to have to back up. (Worthy) is doing a great job picking up the playbook. One of the tough things early on in this offense is can you learn all three (main receiver) positions? He’s had a nice opportunity to sit back, look at every position, see the defenses and let the game slow down for him a little bit.”

There's a new duo in Kansas City @PatrickMahomes x @Primetime_jet pic.twitter.com/ScDEv9xeqQ

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) June 12, 2024

During minicamp, Worthy did what he has often done in the past month: He stood next to offensive coordinator Matt Nagy, who radioed the play call into Mahomes’ helmet.

“It’s really valuable for him to tell me, while we’re standing there in practice, where he’s supposed to go and what he’s supposed to do,” Nagy said last month. “It’s been really good for him, and he’s been great.”

Mahomes is eager to see how Brown and Worthy’s speed creates more space for Rice and Kelce in the intermediate area of the field in the upcoming season.

Last month, Mahomes shared a tip with Brown on a blitz play. Mahomes wanted to target Brown, who possesses the speed to beat the blitz downfield. Mahomes told Brown it was OK for him to not run his deep route exactly how it is drawn up in Reid’s playbook, just that he be in the vicinity as quickly as possible to run underneath the deep pass.

“As a coach, you look for the communication part of it, that they’re willing to share what they’re thinking with one another,” Reid said of Mahomes and Brown. “They’ve got a good connection. Once Patrick knows what Hollywood’s thinking and Hollywood knows where Patrick physically can get the ball to on the field, then that’s a good thing.”

In the second team period Wednesday, Mahomes recognized a blitz and threw a splendid fadeaway deep pass; the ball traveled more than 50 yards downfield, allowing Brown enough time to sprint away from safety Chamarri Conner before he caught it on his way to the end zone.

“He’s trusting me more and more,” Brown said. “I’m just excited for the opportunity and what’s ahead. They’re letting me be a weapon. I’m not just stuck in this role or that role. Coach Reid is putting me in positions to do a lot of things.”

Hollywood put on a show today pic.twitter.com/Amy0fPXWjr

— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) June 12, 2024

Defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo blitzed the offense plenty of times during minicamp, and Mahomes responded by often making the right decision with the ball, whether throwing to a checkdown target or making a more difficult pass against multiple defenders in the secondary.

“This is probably the most comfortable I’ve felt of just being able to not let something affect me,” Mahomes said. “When you go up against Spags, you’re not going to be right 100 percent. There’s been times where I’ve lost on blitzes and Spags gets me with a new pressure that he’s working on. It’s ‘All right, let’s just get the ball out of my hands, get it to the checkdown, wherever that is, and live to play another play.’”

One reason the Chiefs re-signed Hardman to another one-year deal is that he’ll likely be relied on early in the season, especially since Rice is expected to serve a multi-game suspension to start in September for violating the NFL’s personal conduct policy. In late March, Rice was involved in a multi-vehicle crash in northeast Dallas. He was the driver of a Lamborghini sport utility vehicle that caused the crash, which created a chain-reaction collision involving four other vehicles, police said. Rice is facing one count of aggravated assault, one count of collision involving serious bodily injury and six counts of collision involving injury.

Receiver Nikko Remigio, who joined the Chiefs last season as an undrafted rookie, is competing for what could be the final roster spot at the position. He has built a connection with backup quarterback Carson Wentz during the offseason program. In Tuesday’s practice, Remigio generated two touchdown receptions, including one on which he outjumped cornerback Kelvin Joseph to catch an improvised pass from Wentz in the back of the end zone.

“He runs all day,” Wentz said last week. “He’s been fun to get to know a little bit. He’s fast and he uncovers well versus man coverage. We have some days out there where we’re down some receivers and Nikko’s just out there running all day long, so a lot of respect for what he’s done so far.”

Year 2 pic.twitter.com/czCZmWNcWZ

— Nikko Remigio (@nikkoremigio) June 11, 2024

Last year, Remigio led the Chiefs with four receptions for 71 yards in their preseason opener against the New Orleans Saints before he sustained a season-ending dislocated left shoulder injury the following week.

Remigio’s minicamp reps were split between the rest of the projected starters and the top backups.

“Nikko is a prime example of an undrafted free agent that comes in, is an absolute professional every day — in the meeting rooms, at practice, the same mentality — and you root for guys like that,” Nagy said. “He’s showing up. Guys like him find a role and they’ve got to make an impact on special teams. I’m rooting for him, I think he’s a great kid and it could be a fun story.”

Reid shared Thursday that he and Nagy have spent much of the past two months trying to see how the receivers are going to best fit within the offense. One of the best parts of that process is that Mahomes fully participated in each of the Chiefs’ practices. Many of those reps featured Mahomes alongside his top passing options, such as Kelce, Brown, Watson and Wiley.

“I thought we had a great OTAs and minicamp,” Mahomes said. “The confidence that the defense has, you can see they’re trying to build on that. Offensively, we feel we didn’t play our best last year, even though we won. We knew we had a lot of places to improve, so I think guys had that mentality coming into OTAs.

“That’s something, I think, that has gotten the best out of everybody. It’s one of the best (offseasons) I’ve ever been a part of.”

Injury update
Reid said he believes left guard Joe Thuney, recovering from a pectoral injury, should be available for the start of the regular season.

“Joe is working his tail off, getting better,” Reid said. “We’ve got to get clearance from the doctor, but he’s made good progress. He’ll be one of those guys that’s kind of right on the border, whether he can go or not (at the start of camp).”

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5562808/2024/06/14/chiefs-receivers-patrick-mahomes/?redirected=1

[BufordT 409]

On 5/16/2024 at 8:59 AM, TBayXXXVII said:

THIS is the guy to have.

That's not a Worthy post

[GobbleDog 919]

Last year Rashee Rice had 79 rec, 938 yds, and 7 Tds... finishing as Wr 27 (ppr).  It's the highest any Wr (not named Tyreek Hill) has ever had with Mahomes.

Chiefs Wrs = fools gold. We've all been fooled at one time or another. Until Kelce retires or falls off a cliff... I'm out.

[LaChup 215]

Mahomes was fools gold last year too. It was their defense that kept them in games, not their offense.

[TBayXXXVII 2,409]

On 6/15/2024 at 10:01 AM, BufordT said:

That's not a Worthy post

[WhiteWonder 2,557]

I'd roll with Hollywood 

[Maximum Overkill 1,526]

Everytime this thread bumps I think another Chief got arrested. 

[polecatt 473]

Rashee Rice will be the WR to have if he's playing, he should be a low end WR2 or flex play when he's on the field. His off the field issues could be a concern though.

The rest of the WRs, I think they're okay depth, Brown, and Worthy, I think each is capable of a big game here or there, but not much else.

Outside of Kelce though, I'm not sure there's anybody in their receiving corps that I would go out of my way to roster.

[weepaws 3,049]

1 hour ago, polecatt said:

Rashee Rice will be the WR to have if he's playing, he should be a low end WR2 or flex play when he's on the field. His off the field issues could be a concern though.

The rest of the WRs, I think they're okay depth, Brown, and Worthy, I think each is capable of a big game here or there, but not much else.

Outside of Kelce though, I'm not sure there's anybody in their receiving corps that I would go out of my way to roster.

That’s simply the way it is.  If Rice is playing, he’s the one to own, next Brown. 

[seafoam1 2,587]

6 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Everytime this thread bumps I think another Chief got arrested. 

It's non stop. 

[WhiteWonder 2,557]

20 hours ago, polecatt said:

Rashee Rice will be the WR to have if he's playing, he should be a low end WR2 or flex play when he's on the field. His off the field issues could be a concern though.

The rest of the WRs, I think they're okay depth, Brown, and Worthy, I think each is capable of a big game here or there, but not much else.

Outside of Kelce though, I'm not sure there's anybody in their receiving corps that I would go out of my way to roster.

 

My case for Hollywood...  in 2021 he had 91/1000/6 playing with Lamar Jackson who despite being a very good player, has never been the type of QB to really support a #1 receiver. He runs and relies on his tight end, he's not Mahomes.  Even in 2020, Brown had 58/769/8  and also scored 7 times as a rookie.   Even in Arizona, he combined for 118/1280/7 over two seasons while missing 8 games and dealing with pretty poor QB play. 

Over his 5 NFL seasons, he has averaged  62/729/5  and most people would agree he played with QBs who are not the most accurate passers.

Still just 27 years old, I'm not sure he can't become the 1A to Rice's 1B as far as Chiefs WRs go, and thats assuming no suspension for Rice. The Chiefs have been looking for a new Tyreek ever since letting him go. (Hardman, Sky Moore, Toney etc). Brown is the most dynamic guy they have brought in. 

He is being drafted in the 35-40 range at WR.  Well worth the draft capital.  Not hard to envision 80/1100/8  (WR16 last year)

[IGotWorms 4,053]

21 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

 

My case for Hollywood...  in 2021 he had 91/1000/6 playing with Lamar Jackson who despite being a very good player, has never been the type of QB to really support a #1 receiver. He runs and relies on his tight end, he's not Mahomes.  Even in 2020, Brown had 58/769/8  and also scored 7 times as a rookie.   Even in Arizona, he combined for 118/1280/7 over two seasons while missing 8 games and dealing with pretty poor QB play. 

Over his 5 NFL seasons, he has averaged  62/729/5  and most people would agree he played with QBs who are not the most accurate passers.

Still just 27 years old, I'm not sure he can't become the 1A to Rice's 1B as far as Chiefs WRs go, and thats assuming no suspension for Rice. The Chiefs have been looking for a new Tyreek ever since letting him go. (Hardman, Sky Moore, Toney etc). Brown is the most dynamic guy they have brought in. 

He is being drafted in the 35-40 range at WR.  Well worth the draft capital.  Not hard to envision 80/1100/8  (WR16 last year)

Yeah I think he’s worth the (pretty insignificant) risk.

Especially given Rice’s problems. Even if he’s not suspended, who’s to say this behavior doesn’t pop back up again in season? It appears that it’s just who he is 

[WhiteWonder 2,557]

10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Yeah I think he’s worth the (pretty insignificant) risk.

Especially given Rice’s problems. Even if he’s not suspended, who’s to say this behavior doesn’t pop back up again in season? It appears that it’s just who he is 

And I dont even think there needs to be a suspension or lingering issues with Rice for Brown to become Mahomes #1 receiver option. I just think it's very telling that the Chiefs continue to try to bring in Hill style players. No one is ever going to be Tyreek, but its obvious they are looking for something specific. Brown seems like a no nonsense player despite the Hollywood nickname. If he builds a rapport with Mahomes, we will see his best season by a wide margin. 

[weepaws 3,049]

M Brown isn’t going to be the next T Hill,  they brought him because they needed another wr, After R Rice all there other wr blow.  

M Browns career Avg per is 11:8.   And while Jackson isn’t nearly the passer that Mahomes is , M Brown benefited by being the only wr the Ravens had, in 2022 M Brown was having a good season while their was once again no competition, but once Hopkins return M Brown disappeared.  

If Rice is able to play, M Brown will be as benefit to Rice, Rice is simply the much better wr, and can catch.  

M Brown has had 525 targets in his career, with only 313 rec, that’s a horrible 59%.  

Looking at ADP, ppr M Brown wr:32/48 overall, Rice #42/68 overall   Much better value with Rice, But the uncertainty of if he plays does indeed become a hesitation   

 

[RareN64Dream 21]

14 hours ago, weepaws said:

M Brown isn’t going to be the next T Hill,  they brought him because they needed another wr, After R Rice all there other wr blow.  

M Browns career Avg per is 11:8.   And while Jackson isn’t nearly the passer that Mahomes is , M Brown benefited by being the only wr the Ravens had, in 2022 M Brown was having a good season while their was once again no competition, but once Hopkins return M Brown disappeared.  

If Rice is able to play, M Brown will be as benefit to Rice, Rice is simply the much better wr, and can catch.  

M Brown has had 525 targets in his career, with only 313 rec, that’s a horrible 59%.  

Looking at ADP, ppr M Brown wr:32/48 overall, Rice #42/68 overall   Much better value with Rice, But the uncertainty of if he plays does indeed become a hesitation   

 

White Wonder comment makes sense. I think, Brown might surprise a few people this season. Rice is dealing with the off-field issues; trying to do charity stuff to save face. I wonder if he gets suspended for half the season? I think, if Rice doesn't get suspended for some games; that is a slap in the face to other players who got worse punishment for other crimes. Just my 2 cents. I see your ending comment too Weepaws. That is the uncertainty I was also helping explain. Yes, Brown has had issues catching the ball also.

Edited June 24, 2024 by RareN64Dream
Typing too fast

[weepaws 3,049]

5 hours ago, RareN64Dream said:

White Wonder comment makes sense. I think, Brown might surprise a few people this season. Rice is dealing with the off-field issues; trying to do charity stuff to save face. I wonder if he gets suspended for half the season? I think, if Rice doesn't get suspended for some games; that is a slap in the face to other players who got worse punishment for other crimes. Just my 2 cents. I see your ending comment too Weepaws. That is the uncertainty I was also helping explain. Yes, Brown has had issues catching the ball also.

The uncertainty is of course what happens to Rice, if Rice doesn’t play, M Brown becomes the wr1.  

[JagFan 133]

I saw TE Pied Piper on the news this morning putting makeup on his pet rat.  Go Chiefs!

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

I need someone to explain to me how Rice is gonna be suspended for half the season (6-8 games is popular idea) when his first court date isn't until early December ??  

When was the last time Goodell suspended someone BEFORE any court room had a say in the legal matter?? 

Kamara bounced a dudes head off the ground a few times and got 3 games for pleading "no contest".  Rice has plead innocent and unless he agrees to a plea deal prior to the December court date there is no recent precedent for the NFL to take any action until courts do.  

[Showboat 250]

Who knows, but it is a risk because the NFL has no consistency in penalty enforcement.  Big Ben got suspended even though charges were eventually dropped and Brady got suspended where the threshold certainly was not "beyond a reasonable doubt".

[IGotWorms 4,053]

1 hour ago, kcBlitzkrieg said:

I need someone to explain to me how Rice is gonna be suspended for half the season (6-8 games is popular idea) when his first court date isn't until early December ??  

When was the last time Goodell suspended someone BEFORE any court room had a say in the legal matter?? 

Kamara bounced a dudes head off the ground a few times and got 3 games for pleading "no contest".  Rice has plead innocent and unless he agrees to a plea deal prior to the December court date there is no recent precedent for the NFL to take any action until courts do.  

The entire country has seen the video. And he (belatedly) admitted to it 

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

1 hour ago, Showboat said:

Who knows, but it is a risk because the NFL has no consistency in penalty enforcement.  Big Ben got suspended even though charges were eventually dropped and Brady got suspended where the threshold certainly was not "beyond a reasonable doubt".

Yes, that was old Goodell.  

I'm merely pointing out examples, or lack thereof, from the past 5 years or so....   

[kcBlitzkrieg 29]

39 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

The entire country has seen the video. And he (belatedly) admitted to it 

Yes.  We know.  Again, there is no recent precedent for Goodell to suspend BEFORE the courts make any determination.  

I'm waiting for a recent relevant example showing otherwise.  Not saying there isn't, but no one has provided one yet.....