Patriots, Rhamondre Stevenson Progressing On Extension

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Fire back up those Rhamondre shares. 

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/06/patriots-rb-rhamondre-stevenson-progressing-on-extension#google_vignette

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I do like Stevenson at the Rb19 adp (early-6th rd).  He was Rb 19 before getting hurt in week 13 last year, despite of having a bad season (4.0 ypc) on a terrible team. He averaged 4.6 and 5.0 ypc the previous years and had 69 receptions in '22, finishing as Rb 7.

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Yea he’s a target in my non ppr. 

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Could be a sneaky good pick at that ADP. He's in a new offense, rookie QB, etc.

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I’m high on him this year. People are saying the Patriots will be the worst team in the league and I think it’s pretty easy to outpace those expectations.

Not saying they’ll compete for the division or anything but the offense has nowhere to go but up and the defense should still be pretty good, such that they’ll be able to get the opposing team off the field at a decent rate.

Could definitely see at least modest improvement over last year for ‘Mondre

[weepaws 3,143]

If I don’t draft Stevenson, I will target his back up Gibson, who I think can be a good very late addition.  

I do think the Pats will be a pretty bad team, so catching up late into games , might benefit a rb like Gibson. Let’s hope so. 

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On 6/18/2024 at 9:48 AM, IGotWorms said:

I’m high on him this year. People are saying the Patriots will be the worst team in the league and I think it’s pretty easy to outpace those expectations.

Not saying they’ll compete for the division or anything but the offense has nowhere to go but up and the defense should still be pretty good, such that they’ll be able to get the opposing team off the field at a decent rate.

Could definitely see at least modest improvement over last year for ‘Mondre

you could be right.

but that defense was designed with a Belicheck scheme in mind.   lots of guys from his defenses leave to other teams and dont perform as well in a different scheme.

while I dont think the defense will be terrible, I dont think they will be as good as they were last year.   only exception is if the offense increases their performance and can stop the defense from spending 65% of the game on the field.    in that scenario the Defense may improve its measurable numbers simply by not being on the field.

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Don’t sleep on A Gibson, he’s going to steal targets and possibly goal line work.   

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2 hours ago, weepaws said:

Don’t sleep on A Gibson, he’s going to steal targets and possibly goal line work.   

Maybe but what has Gibson really ever done?

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If BB was still around, I'd be more concerned about Gibson limiting Stevenson's numbers.  I get the sense that Mayo would prefer a workhorse featured back - I suspect Stevenson will get all the work he can handle with his upside limited by an offense that does not appear to be that great on paper.  Of course, if Maye exceeds expectations there is the potential for massive value at his current ADP.

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1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Maybe but what has Gibson really ever done?

About the same as what Stevenson has done so far in their nfl careers.  

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1 hour ago, weepaws said:

About the same as what Stevenson has done so far in their nfl careers.  

Gibson hasn’t been very effective as a rusher for a couple of years now. Rhamondre was decent last year in a putrid offense and very effective the two years before that. I wouldn’t worry too much about Gibson

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4.1 yards per carry last  year in limited use.  similar to his one good year.    but all that being said, when they gave Rhamandre that contract that's like telling Antonio to take a seat.  you dont pay a player that type of cash and then not play him.

Gibson is the clear number 2. 

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2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Gibson hasn’t been very effective as a rusher for a couple of years now. Rhamondre was decent last year in a putrid offense and very effective the two years before that. I wouldn’t worry too much about Gibson

I’m not worried about Gibson, I’m on record to saying Stevenson could finish top five in non ppr.  

But Stevenson has missed time two of his first three seasons, the Pats will pretty avg again this season, I can see Gibson getting work in the passing game, I think he will take that away from Stevenson, who they just gave a raise to.  I wouldn’t rank the redskins offense much better.  Imo. 

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1 hour ago, Ray_T said:

4.1 yards per carry last  year in limited use.  similar to his one good year.    but all that being said, when they gave Rhamandre that contract that's like telling Antonio to take a seat.  you dont pay a player that type of cash and then not play him.

Gibson is the clear number 2. 

Gibson is without question the clear number two when it comes to running the ball, but he’s going to be their third down, and some time goal line rb.  Plus Stevenson has missed game two of his three season , Gibson has missed less games.  .

Gibson current adp is 12 rd, he’s a 10-11 rd target of mine.  Thanks 

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4 hours ago, Ray_T said:

but all that being said, when they gave Rhamandre that contract that's like telling Antonio to take a seat.  you dont pay a player that type of cash and then not play him.

Gibson is the clear number 2. 

You're exactly right. 

It's simple, 17 million guaranteed for a RB is a ton. That tells you all you need to know. They believe in Rhamondre and this offense is going through the running game. 

The ADP is only going to rise from here. 

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8 hours ago, weepaws said:

Gibson is without question the clear number two when it comes to running the ball, but he’s going to be their third down, and some time goal line rb.  Plus Stevenson has missed game two of his three season , Gibson has missed less games.  .

Gibson current adp is 12 rd, he’s a 10-11 rd target of mine.  Thanks 

Personally, I wouldn’t bother. You should be looking at RBs with upside around that point. Gibson has very little 

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48 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Personally, I wouldn’t bother. You should be looking at RBs with upside around that point. Gibson has very little 

Yea he does.  In a 14 team non ppr tough to find a lot of upside that late into the draft.   But I think Gibson is going to be a good stash for me.  

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2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Personally, I wouldn’t bother. You should be looking at RBs with upside around that point. Gibson has very little 

for me hes a late round (or late auction) lotto ticket.   he may pan out but probably wont.   not without an injury to Rhamandre.    

if you own Rhamandre, I'd say hes a good late round handcuff who can step in and produce in the event of an injury.

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10 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

for me hes a late round (or late auction) lotto ticket.   he may pan out but probably wont.   not without an injury to Rhamandre.    

if you own Rhamandre, I'd say hes a good late round handcuff who can step in and produce in the event of an injury.

Agreed.  

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1 hour ago, weepaws said:

Yea he does.  In a 14 team non ppr tough to find a lot of upside that late into the draft.   But I think Gibson is going to be a good stash for me.  

14 team perhaps. He could be an injury fill in if necessary 

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22 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

14 team perhaps. He could be an injury fill in if necessary 

Thats what I’ve been saying, he’s not a starter, he’s simply a bench stash, who seems to be lift late in mocks I’ve been doing, I see value in him , in case of another jury to Stevenson, who has missed time two of his three seasons, but some that will be involved in the passing game and some short yardage work.  

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5 hours ago, Ray_T said:

if you own Rhamandre, I'd say hes a good late round handcuff who can step in and produce in the event of an injury.

That's how I see it as well. In 14 team leagues you need to cuff starters.