WR Aiyuk: Trade Me

[wolves111 104]

He asked today to be traded. Does that elevate Samuel and Kittle if he’s moved?

Rumored to be interested include Pittsburgh and Washington.

[Ray_T 738]

24 minutes ago, wolves111 said:

He asked today to be traded. Does that elevate Samuel and Kittle if he’s moved?

Rumored to be interested include Pittsburgh and Washington.

probably.  unless they get a comparable WR in return.

[weepaws 3,142]

This isn’t a surprise, been a lot of smoke about this situation probably coming to an end with a trade.   Washington And Steelers have been the two most talk about teams being trading partners.  

I think Ayiuk is making a mistake.  

[Ray_T 738]

Just now, weepaws said:

This isn’t a surprise, been a lot of smoke about this situation probably coming to an end with a trade.   Washington And Steelers have been the two most talk about teams being trading partners.  

I think Ayiuk is making a mistake.  

if those are the likely destinations, then yes.

sure he might make more money in the short run, but the inferior offense will hurt his numbers and hurt him financially when its time to re-sign

[weepaws 3,142]

3 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

if those are the likely destinations, then yes.

sure he might make more money in the short run, but the inferior offense will hurt his numbers and hurt him financially when its time to re-sign

Ray, he’s on a darn good football team now, with a good Qb.  

[Ray_T 738]

Just now, weepaws said:

Ray, he’s on a darn good football team now, with a good Qb.  

I dont disagree

[Bier Meister 1,655]

it would be foolish for buf, kc, chargers not to press for him. even dallas.

 

as for aiyuk's career... not sure there is a better place for him than SF

[Ray_T 738]

10 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

it would be foolish for buf, kc, chargers not to press for him. even dallas.

 

as for aiyuk's career... not sure there is a better place for him than SF

there are a couple places where I think he does better. 

Shanny is likely the only coach in the league with the balls to bench a 1000 yard WR because he doesnt do a good enough job blocking

but yes buffalo, KC, LA chargers are all places he could possibly exceed his production in San Fran, but thats likely the exception and not the rule.

[nobody 2,540]

My understanding is that he had some attitude problems to start his career which kept him in the Shanny dog house.

My concern is that if he ends up staying in SF and is unhappy, will he allow his attitude to become a problem?

[Bier Meister 1,655]

7 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

there are a couple places where I think he does better. 

Shanny is likely the only coach in the league with the balls to bench a 1000 yard WR because he doesnt do a good enough job blocking

but yes buffalo, KC, LA chargers are all places he could possibly exceed his production in San Fran, but thats likely the exception and not the rule.

he would certainly have better numbers elsewhere without deebo, kittle, and cmc. where he goes could define his legacy (i am not sure i would want to play in wash  nor Pitt).

[Ray_T 738]

1 minute ago, Bier Meister said:

he would certainly have better numbers elsewhere without deebo, kittle, and cmc. where he goes could define his legacy (i am not sure i would want to play in wash  nor Pitt).

no.  Washington is a train wreck.   Pittsburgh a little better, but not ideal.

 

[makindollaz 51]

As a long suffering Washington fan, I’d love to get him.  We have a mountain of cap room, and he’s good friends with JD from their ASU days.  Would imagine we’d have to give up a WR and picks…hopefully would be Dotson and not McLaurin.

[GobbleDog 974]

Asking for a trade is one thing... getting traded requires: Another team offering the long-term big-money deal he's demanding & that team giving enough draft capital to satisfy the Niners.

Who knows if that happens. But I can see why the Steelers might be interested. They need help in the air department.

[TBayXXXVII 2,478]

52 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

probably.  unless they get a comparable WR in return.

A deal with Cincy for Tee Higgins would be a match.  The issue at that point would be... why not just re-ink Aiyuk. 

[Ray_T 738]

11 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

A deal with Cincy for Tee Higgins would be a match.  The issue at that point would be... why not just re-ink Aiyuk. 

bingo.

 

[polecatt 474]

My guess is he wants to play with Jayden Daniels and be his top WR in DC.

He would have an excellent WR1a/WR2 Terry McLaurin. That's a pretty good duo.

They got Zach Ertz in the offseason. Austin Ekeler, excellent receiving RB to go with Brian Robinson Jr to pound the rock between the tackles.

They have supposedly upgraded the offensive line.

If Jayden Daniels is the real deal, this could be a very good offense this season, and even better 2-3 years down the road.

 

As for Samuel and Kittle. I don't think it will have a huge effect on either. Maybe a small to moderate increase in their numbers. I think it's the guys behind them in the depth chart that will feel it more so.

[makindollaz 51]

47 minutes ago, polecatt said:

My guess is he wants to play with Jayden Daniels and be his top WR in DC.

He would have an excellent WR1a/WR2 Terry McLaurin. That's a pretty good duo.

They got Zach Ertz in the offseason. Austin Ekeler, excellent receiving RB to go with Brian Robinson Jr to pound the rock between the tackles.

They have supposedly upgraded the offensive line.

If Jayden Daniels is the real deal, this could be a very good offense this season, and even better 2-3 years down the road.

 

As for Samuel and Kittle. I don't think it will have a huge effect on either. Maybe a small to moderate increase in their numbers. I think it's the guys behind them in the depth chart that will feel it more so.

The interior OL could be very good, but the OT’s are a concern.  I believe right now that could be the reason we don’t have an offense at least in the top half of the league.

[weepaws 3,142]

Ekler is an interesting rb, I will be watching to see if he has some left, or did he simply give up last season. But I’m not targeting him. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,728]

I'd trade Deebo long before I'd trade Aiyuk. 

[Ray_T 738]

4 hours ago, polecatt said:

My guess is he wants to play with Jayden Daniels and be his top WR in DC.

He would have an excellent WR1a/WR2 Terry McLaurin. That's a pretty good duo.

They got Zach Ertz in the offseason. Austin Ekeler, excellent receiving RB to go with Brian Robinson Jr to pound the rock between the tackles.

They have supposedly upgraded the offensive line.

If Jayden Daniels is the real deal, this could be a very good offense this season, and even better 2-3 years down the road.

 

As for Samuel and Kittle. I don't think it will have a huge effect on either. Maybe a small to moderate increase in their numbers. I think it's the guys behind them in the depth chart that will feel it more so.

yeah, but the team might be one of the worst run franchises in the league.   They will find a way to meddle and mess it up.

if they succeed it will be despite the inept management.  not because of it.

[makindollaz 51]

7 hours ago, Ray_T said:

yeah, but the team might be one of the worst run franchises in the league.   They will find a way to meddle and mess it up.

if they succeed it will be despite the inept management.  not because of it.

You do know the franchise was sold last season, and it’s a whole new front office/staff, right?

If this were the Snyder era I’d agree, but the new group seems to know what they’re  doing.

[Ray_T 738]

2 hours ago, makindollaz said:

You do know the franchise was sold last season, and it’s a whole new front office/staff, right?

If this were the Snyder era I’d agree, but the new group seems to know what they’re  doing.

maybe.   sometimes it takes a while to purge the old culture haha    but I guess we will see soon enough.

[makindollaz 51]

15 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

maybe.   sometimes it takes a while to purge the old culture haha    but I guess we will see soon enough.

The old ownership would have already traded McLaurin and 2 future #1’s for Aiyuk, and given him a contract 20% above market value.

[WhiteWonder 2,673]

22 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

A deal with Cincy for Tee Higgins would be a match.  The issue at that point would be... why not just re-ink Aiyuk. 

I would guess just the relationship aspect between a staff and a player asking to be traded. Both Aiyuk and Higgins seem to want changes of scenery (i think its about more than just the $). So I do think a swap of those receivers would be a great trade for both teams. 

[WhiteWonder 2,673]

17 hours ago, polecatt said:

My guess is he wants to play with Jayden Daniels and be his top WR in DC.

He would have an excellent WR1a/WR2 Terry McLaurin. That's a pretty good duo.

They got Zach Ertz in the offseason. Austin Ekeler, excellent receiving RB to go with Brian Robinson Jr to pound the rock between the tackles.

They have supposedly upgraded the offensive line.

If Jayden Daniels is the real deal, this could be a very good offense this season, and even better 2-3 years down the road.

 

As for Samuel and Kittle. I don't think it will have a huge effect on either. Maybe a small to moderate increase in their numbers. I think it's the guys behind them in the depth chart that will feel it more so.

 

I think Washington would be a fine destination. People are acting like this is the same old Washington... I think with the ownership change, new front office, shiny new rookie QB... it could be a fun spot for Aiyuk. It doesn't take long to turn things around in the NFL.  (see houston)

Although I am not sure Aiyuk is better than Terry. If Aiyuks goal is to be a clear cut top WR, Im not sure it's happening on most teams, personally. 

But yeah, Daniels with Aiyuk, Terry, Ertz/Sinnott, Ekeler, Robinson and an improved line could be a nice little offense.

[WhiteWonder 2,673]

Ricky Pearsall

[polecatt 474]

1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said:

 

I think Washington would be a fine destination. People are acting like this is the same old Washington... I think with the ownership change, new front office, shiny new rookie QB... it could be a fun spot for Aiyuk. It doesn't take long to turn things around in the NFL.  (see houston)

Although I am not sure Aiyuk is better than Terry. If Aiyuks goal is to be a clear cut top WR, Im not sure it's happening on most teams, personally. 

But yeah, Daniels with Aiyuk, Terry, Ertz/Sinnott, Ekeler, Robinson and an improved line could be a nice little offense.

Exactly.

I get why people are skeptical, I am too. They think it's just gonna be the same ole story, and it may be.

However, they're making changes, trying to get better. Everybody knows Danny boy was a terrible owner and the team didn't stand chance with him in charge. He's gone though, so I think it's fair to say this time comes with a little more promise than the previous 30 years or so.

The moves they have made look decent on paper. I'm at least willing to wait and see how it goes.

[DocNiner 67]

San Fran has stated emphatically that they were not going to trade him. I don't think the 49ers get back to the superbowl if they trade him. Yes, I agree that Aiyuk is making a big mistake asking to be traded. He has said that he wants to go the Commanders or Pittsburgh. Lynch and Shanahan are NOT gonna give him to one of the 2 teams he wants to go to. In the event that they do somehow trade I think the most likely scenario would be they send to to the New England Patriots and see how much he likes it there. Plus the Patriots have the most cap space and could afford to trade for him. Aiyuk should realize that the grass is not always greener kn the other side.

        Still I think he's worth 30 mil but he wants more. I don't think the 49ers want to pay that much but they should because he is a big reason the 49ers are as good as they are. San Fran will also not trade him to a team they think could go deep in the playoffs. I still say the likely place for him is in New England. I hope he gets that bag and stays in San Fran but this saga is not yet over.

[Maximum Overkill 1,728]

SF is screwed when it's time to pay Purdy. Someone if not a few have to go. 

[Ray_T 738]

6 hours ago, makindollaz said:

The old ownership would have already traded McLaurin and 2 future #1’s for Aiyuk, and given him a contract 20% above market value.

fair point.   and maybe I'm being a little harsh.   Though Washington has been a train wreck for some time.   its hard to get the stench of that off of the organization.  it actually takes time to change the culture.

but I guess we will see.   I appreciate your comments.

4 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

I would guess just the relationship aspect between a staff and a player asking to be traded. Both Aiyuk and Higgins seem to want changes of scenery (i think its about more than just the $). So I do think a swap of those receivers would be a great trade for both teams. 

yeah, a change of scenery for both could be good.   Though it sounds like San Fran is not going to make this an easy process.

[Flipper 60]

On 7/16/2024 at 2:09 PM, Bier Meister said:

it would be foolish for buf, kc, chargers not to press for him. even dallas.

 

as for aiyuk's career... not sure there is a better place for him than SF

He could be a replacement for Rashee Rice - and for the SF comment I think it's more a Shanahan-style offense that he needs to be in to pad the numbers

[Bier Meister 1,655]

24 minutes ago, Flipper said:

He could be a replacement for Rashee Rice - and for the SF comment I think it's more a Shanahan-style offense that he needs to be in to pad the numbers

My mention of career was more in reference to championship opportunities. 
 

Going to another team should increase his numbers. Many options in sf for purdy.

[Ray_T 738]

ok some news.   not sure how much truth there is to this.  but it makes for some interesting debate I suspect....

 

NFL Analyst Reports Cleveland Browns A Finalist for Brandon Aiyuk Trade (si.com)

[Chickie 74]

I’m surprised the Chargers aren’t all over this guy. What with losing both BMW and Keenan Allen, not too mention Eckler, I’d say the Chargers could be in the market for a playmaker.

[League Champion 1,896]

4 minutes ago, Chickie said:

I’m surprised the Chargers aren’t all over this guy. What with losing both BMW and Keenan Allen, not too mention Eckler, I’d say the Chargers could be in the market for a playmaker.

Agree, they should be all over it 

[Ray_T 738]

I think the coach wants to train people in his own image.    There seems to be a lot of that and that seems to be his history.  build the team from the ground up.

[League Champion 1,896]

The Niners are fools if they trade Aiyuk. 

I'd part with Deebo long before Aiyuk. 

And bye bye NFC Champions 

[Ray_T 738]

I would also trade Deebo before Aiyuk but I am also not in charge.

its also possible Aiyuk is a big enough Diva that hes worn out his welcome with the team.   We dont see what goes on behind closed doors so it's easy for us as outsiders to say this but in reality we dont have the full picture.

[DrG 102]

I expect Aiyuk and Williams to get new contracts near the  end of pre season. Aiyuk a bit overrated and is a diva. Did not play like a 30M receiver in the Super Bowl. Still a good chance he’s on a 1 year plan.

[League Champion 1,896]

19 minutes ago, DrG said:

expect Aiyuk and Williams to get new contracts 

They should but can they? 

Purdy is up next season, McCaffrey is due massive money, Deebo, Bosa, Kittle, Williams, etc. 

I could be wrong but aren't they already in cap hell when they go into 2025? Who goes?