WR Aiyuk: Trade Me

[Super Cubs 144]

31 minutes ago, League Champion said:

They should but can they? 

Purdy is up next season, McCaffrey is due massive money, Deebo, Bosa, Kittle, Williams, etc. 

I could be wrong but aren't they already in cap hell when they go into 2025? Who goes? 

McCafferty is 28 going into season 8 this year and his contract is good through 2025.  Personally I think its a mistake to give a 30y/o RB going into his 10th season massive deal but I've been wrong before.

[DrG 97]

‘Cap hell’ keeps getting pushed back. But agree window is narrowing. 49ers 12-1 last year with Williams playing. He will get guaranteed money. They’ve made an offer to Aiyuk. We’ll just see. CMC a unicorn in that offense.

[League Champion 1,656]

1 hour ago, Super Cubs said:

McCafferty is 28 going into season 8 this year and his contract is good through 2025.  Personally I think its a mistake to give a 30y/o RB going into his 10th season massive deal but I've been wrong before.

Agree, I just don't know their cap situation once Purdy gets paid. With all those monster contracts it can be good. 

[Mike FF Today 671]

Still think it's a long shot, but the trade option is picking up more steam...

 

[GobbleDog 909]

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Because Cooper is in the final year of his contract, the Browns would also likely send multiple draft picks to the 49ers, including the possibility of a second-round selection in the 2025 NFL Draft.

The Browns are still reeling from their last fleecing. For the first time in several years they finally own 1st and 2nd round picks. I'd be surprised if they gave them up.

[Ray_T 686]

3 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

The Browns are still reeling from their last fleecing. For the first time in several years they finally own 1st and 2nd round picks. I'd be surprised if they gave them up.

they will totally give them up for Aiyuk.   

San Fran may be wanting a player in return.  If they are hoping to win a Superbowl that would be preferable to just a draft pick.  maybe Amari Cooper along with a 2nd might do it.   might have to be a first.  Not sure the exact market there, but it wouldnt be a straight up trade.  I can guarantee you of that.

[GobbleDog 909]

8 hours ago, Ray_T said:

they will totally give them up for Aiyuk.  

Early picks help build good teams on the cheap. Browns haven't had a 1st round pick in three years, or a 2nd rd pick until this year.  Watson's $64 mil hit accounts for 25% of their cap. It'll be the same in '25 and '26.  Considering all that I'd be surprised if they sign Aiyuk to a monster long-term deal AND trade a 1st / 2nd pick.

But maybe... we are talking about the team that made the worst trade and contract deal in the history of the NFL.

[Ray_T 686]

59 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Early picks help build good teams on the cheap. Browns haven't had a 1st round pick in three years, or a 2nd rd pick until this year.  Watson's $64 mil hit accounts for 25% of their cap. It'll be the same in '25 and '26.  Considering all that I'd be surprised if they sign Aiyuk to a monster long-term deal AND trade a 1st / 2nd pick.

But maybe... we are talking about the team that made the worst trade and contract deal in the history of the NFL.

yep. it IS the browns....

[IGotWorms 3,831]

If Aiyuk does get traded, is Pearsall the beneficiary on the Niners? Can he capitalize?

[makindollaz 47]

28 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

If Aiyuk does get traded, is Pearsall the beneficiary on the Niners? Can he capitalize?

Would probably depend on if the Niners get a vet WR as part of a deal for Aiyuk.

If not, I’d probably put Pearsall in with the Coleman, Odunze, Worthy, McConkey, Thomas Jr., Legette 2nd tier of rookie WR’s, behind Harrison & Nabers.

[IGotWorms 3,831]

24 minutes ago, makindollaz said:

Would probably depend on if the Niners get a vet WR as part of a deal for Aiyuk.

If not, I’d probably put Pearsall in with the Coleman, Odunze, Worthy, McConkey, Thomas Jr., Legette 2nd tier of rookie WR’s, behind Harrison & Nabers.

That seems pretty generous to me, but I am really not too familiar with Pearsall

[nobody 2,334]

I've been reading mixed results on Pearsall.  The bulk is good, but any criticism at this time of year carries a lot of weight with me.

First thing is Pearsall had a hamstring injury that's kept him off the field some. 

With Aiyuk holding in though, Pearsall has been running with the 1s some, and I've read that some days he has good days, and I've read a plenty blunt assessment saying he can't get separation.

Training camp is "damning with faint praise" season, though.  If you hear someone described as "solid" they suck.  "He has some things to work on/learn" means they suck.  So when someone comes out and says the guy is just bad, it's quite worrisome.  Although it was just one guy and maybe he just doesn't like Pearsall.

I'm skeptical unless coaches or teammates are just absolutely gushing or there's just a constant drumbeat of good reports, then the guy is probably just a JAG.

[nobody 2,334]

Take this report on Pearsall.  They're basically screaming that he sucks 

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Ricky Pearsall has drawn positive attention from training camp observers. However, as the San Francisco 49ers' rookie wide receiver works to transition from college to the NFL, he is far from a finished product.

Pearsall began camp on the non-football injury (NFI) list due to a hamstring injury sustained while away from the team. This delayed his start, but he has since returned to practice.

"He's been doing an awesome job working, being that he started behind a little bit with the hamstring injury," 49ers receivers coach Leonard Hankerson said on Monday. "But he's been doing an awesome job. I love his mentality when it comes to his work ethic. He always wants to be coached and he always wants to go out there and win."

Hankerson advises Pearsall to expect a transition period and not to be discouraged by early challenges.

"I'm not saying he's struggling, but what I'm saying is that it's always going to be a curve where he has to learn, and that's the case," Hankerson continued. "That doesn't mean he's not doing well. That means we always got to go out there and work on what we need to work on to perfect the craft.

"So he's working. He's working, and I appreciate the efforts that he's putting in, and we just gotta keep growing."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-182393/

Think about if your kid was playing sports and wasn't very good.  This is the same type of stuff you'd say.  I just love the way he works.  We just need to perfect the craft.  He's coachable.  He just needs to learn.

[League Champion 1,656]

9 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

If Aiyuk does get traded, is Pearsall the beneficiary on the Niners? Can he capitalize?

I'd load up on Kittle if Aiyuk gets traded. His ADP will skyrocket if that happens. 

[weepaws 2,809]

Same with D Samuel 

[Ray_T 686]

6 hours ago, nobody said:

Take this report on Pearsall.  They're basically screaming that he sucks 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.49erswebzone.com/news/amp-182393/

Think about if your kid was playing sports and wasn't very good.  This is the same type of stuff you'd say.  I just love the way he works.  We just need to perfect the craft.  He's coachable.  He just needs to learn.

yeah, but any rookie not ready to step up and be a starter gets this kind of coach speak at one point or another.

thats fine.  given that the starters were deebo and Aiyuk I was not expecting him to beat out one of those guys.    he may get a better chance to show what he can do if Aiyuk gets moved.   but it also depends on whether a  WR is coming back in the deal

[jrokh 585]

Trade seems imminent. Pats or Brownies…

https://x.com/nbcs49ers/status/1820648828678381776?s=46&t=RVEI5z4YFGHB1Rohv_MEHA
 

 

[Mike FF Today 671]

Steelers and Commanders appear to be out. But...

 

[Mike FF Today 671]

Aiyuk to the Pats would be devastating for his fantasy value. 

 

[Mike FF Today 671]

 

[makindollaz 47]

As someone who has Aiyuk in 2 keeper leagues, preference is Cleveland.  His value might drop a little, but still probably a solid top 20/WR2.  New England probably drops him more in the 25-30/WR3 range.

[gridiron whirlwinds 5]

Sounds like the Browns would need to give Cooper in trade for Aiyuk.

[League Champion 1,656]

"The Browns: Amari Cooper & picks".

. That's the route for SF. They're in a win now window. They get a veteran WR and picks. That makes sense to me. 

[weepaws 2,809]

I would do it.  Cooper, plus Picks done. 

[League Champion 1,656]

5 minutes ago, weepaws said:

I would do it.  Cooper, plus Picks done. 

Absolutely. That's a win win for SF

[Ray_T 686]

10 hours ago, Mike FF Today said:

 

or they have no choice.  if Aiyuk refuses to sign an extention that likely scuttles the deal

[Mike FF Today 671]

Ian Rapoport is saying the Steelers are still involved.

[weepaws 2,809]

Steelers move would be awful for my mocks,  I’ve drafted Pickens a lot. 

[Mike FF Today 671]

 

[IGotWorms 3,831]

Steelers makes a lot of sense

[weepaws 2,809]

Both the Browns and the Steelers make a lot of sense. 

[nobody 2,334]

The Patriots make a lot of sense.

[nobody 2,334]

Chiefs make a lot of sense.

[nobody 2,334]

Broncos make a lot of sense.

[nobody 2,334]

Baltimore makes a lot of sense.

[nobody 2,334]

Bills make a lot of sense.

[League Champion 1,656]

The Niners should ask for a 1st and Fields  

In all seriousness I wonder what the market is for Aiyuk. Is it a first, a first+, multiple picks and a player?? 

If I'm the Steelers I'd have no problem throwing a first round pick at SF. They need a WR bad and Aiyuk actually wants to be there. 

[Ray_T 686]

12 minutes ago, League Champion said:

The Niners should ask for a 1st and Fields  

In all seriousness I wonder what the market is for Aiyuk. Is it a first, a first+, multiple picks and a player?? 

If I'm the Steelers I'd have no problem throwing a first round pick at SF. They need a WR bad and Aiyuk actually wants to be there. 

hard to say.   for Amari I'd guess Amari and a 2nd?    maybe throw in another late pick.

the ask is probably Amari and a first but that may be overkill.    that value would place him in the top tier of WRs and I dont think hes top tier.  hes the top of the tier below.    still a very good player mind you.   what makes this tricky is hes still fairly young so the value isnt necessarily easy to quantify

[League Champion 1,656]

7 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

hard to say.   for Amari I'd guess Amari and a 2nd?    maybe throw in another late pick.

the ask is probably Amari and a first but that may be overkill.    that value would place him in the top tier of WRs and I dont think hes top tier.  hes the top of the tier below.    still a very good player mind you.   what makes this tricky is hes still fairly young so the value isnt necessarily easy to quantify

I think you're right. And if you're SF you certainly want a WR back in the deal. That would be an amazing deal for SF if they got Cooper and a first back. 

I'd even argue that it makes them better, for this season at least. 

[nobody 2,334]

Probably Amari and a 3rd.

There is usually a penalty when you have to pay a guy.