Massive prisoner swap with Russia achieved; our people come home; Trump is upset.

[The Real timschochet 6,026]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/01/politics/russia-us-prisoner-swap/index.html

Involves several countries. Supposed to include Gershkovich and Whelan. May also include a Russian assassin being held in Germany. Even so I really hope it’s true. Apparently we’ll know in a few hours. 

[thegeneral 2,775]

The journalist and the marine are released as part of this. I’m sure this is horrible somehow.

[Nomad99 678]

Like when the swapped the merchant of death for a USA hating basketball player?

[The Real timschochet 6,026]

1 minute ago, Nomad99 said:

Like when the swapped the merchant of death for a USA hating basketball player?

Do you have a problem with this current trade? 

[thegeneral 2,775]

2 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

Like when the swapped the merchant of death for a USA hating basketball player?

I like it when Americans held for some make believe crap are released from the gulag.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,637]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I like it when Americans held for some make believe crap are released from the gulag.

Cool.  So you support the J6 pardons. 
 

 

[Nomad99 678]

20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Do you have a problem with this current trade? 

Only with the timing. A Marine should have been free a long time ago...

[thegeneral 2,775]

23 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Cool.  So you support the J6 pardons. 
 

 

They should be part of the swap. Send em to Leningrad. We’ll cut you a deal, Vlad. 

[The Real timschochet 6,026]

Sounds like it’s done. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,637]

25 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

Only with the timing. A Marine should have been free a long time ago...

He had to wait his turn.  Transgender drug user basketball players are the Regime’s priority 

[listen2me 23 1,806]

24 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

He had to wait his turn.  Transgender drug user basketball players are the Regime’s priority 

You can see how goofy society has become in many ways.  This is one.  Marine?  Who cares?  Lebo basketball girl for the merchant of death?  Sign us up!

Our ancestors are rolling in their graves.  All the World War vets are shaking their head.  

[squistion 1,864]

https://x.com/kylegriffin1/status/1819031165837119805

BREAKING:

The Wall Street Journal says reporter Evan Gershkovich and ex-Marine Paul Whelan are free. Both are in U.S. custody after an historic prisoner swap.

[weepaws 3,112]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/01/politics/russia-us-prisoner-swap/index.html

Involves several countries. Supposed to include Gershkovich and Whelan. May also include a Russian assassin being held in Germany. Even so I really hope it’s true. Apparently we’ll know in a few hours. 

trump at work already.  Oh it’s going to be a tough four years, but at least pedero Joe will be gone, thank you Jesus.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,455]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

The journalist and the marine are released as part of this. I’m sure this is horrible somehow.

What's horrible is that these two were there longer than they had to be.  Amazing that a basketball player was a higher priority for this administration.  I find that to be rather disgusting that a soldier had to wait 18 months longer than pot smoker.  If the trade off for Griner was an arms dealer, what's the exchange for these two?  If it's way less than The Merchant of Death, then one would have to ask "Why did it take so long to bring these two back if the price was cheaper?"  If these two are worth more than Bout, what are we giving up?  Nuclear war heads?

[squistion 1,864]

From the Twitters:

Holy cow, this is some serious diplomacy by the Biden admin. Besides Gershkovich and Whelan, 22 other prisoners have been released across seven different countries, and they got Putin to release Ilya Yashin and Vladimir Kara-Murza - two prominent opposition leaders against him.

https://x.com/KevinRothrock/status/1819001979454239073

The Insider (ie @christogrozev) has the full list of today’s exchanged prisoners: https://theins.ru/en/news/273542

[Cdub100 3,786]

It really is interesting how people blindly believe our people are innocent and that other people are bad. I don't know enough either way. None of us do. I just find it interesting it's always our people are good people and the others are merchants of deaths.

[Nomad99 678]

55 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

He had to wait his turn.  Transgender drug user basketball players are the Regime’s priority 

The current reality. 

[thegeneral 2,775]

19 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

What's horrible is that these two were there longer than they had to be.  Amazing that a basketball player was a higher priority for this administration.  I find that to be rather disgusting that a soldier had to wait 18 months longer than pot smoker.  If the trade off for Griner was an arms dealer, what's the exchange for these two?  If it's way less than The Merchant of Death, then one would have to ask "Why did it take so long to bring these two back if the price was cheaper?"  If these two are worth more than Bout, what are we giving up?  Nuclear war heads?

They weren’t working to get these two released?

[zsasz 351]

Congrats President Biden and VP Harris.  Nice job.

[HellToupee 1,482]

Congrats to whoever got this done

[thegeneral 2,775]

7 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Congrats to whoever got this done

[HellToupee 1,482]

 Marc Fogel couldn’t make the cut?

[squistion 1,864]

https://x.com/JamesTate121/status/1819059781614653923

Reminder that Donald Trump let 5000 Taliban terrorists go while leaving Paul Whelan to rot in a Russian Prison and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris got him home.

[thegeneral 2,775]

4 minutes ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/JamesTate121/status/1819059781614653923

Reminder that Donald Trump let 5000 Taliban terrorists go while leaving Paul Whelan to rot in a Russian Prison and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris got him home.

Ooops!

[TBayXXXVII 2,455]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

They weren’t working to get these two released?

Considering they never said they were, I'm going to say no.  They made it known that they were working on bringing Griner back.  Why not say the same for the others if they were working on them as well?

[TBayXXXVII 2,455]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

https://x.com/JamesTate121/status/1819059781614653923

Reminder that Donald Trump let 5000 Taliban terrorists go while leaving Paul Whelan to rot in a Russian Prison and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris got him home.

 

58 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Ooops!

Libs pretending to have a "gotchya".  How cute. 

[thegeneral 2,775]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

Libs pretending to have a "gotchya".  How cute. 

It’s just what happened. Not sure what to tell you. 

My suggestion is that you join fellow Americans celebrating that these people get to come home. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,455]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

It’s just what happened. Not sure what to tell you. 

My suggestion is that you join fellow Americans celebrating that these people get to come home. 

Well, you could try the whole story, but why would you do that.

Who said I wasn't happy they're coming home?  I'm just calling the administration a bunch of pieces of trash for prioritizing a pot head over them and thinking that a mass murderer was a fair price.  Curious to see what we gave up here.

[thegeneral 2,775]

14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Considering they never said they were, I'm going to say no.  They made it known that they were working on bringing Griner back.  Why not say the same for the others if they were working on them as well?

This is not accurate. They have been working on this for some time. Talking about it publicly for years for both these guys. Trump’s team as well in the case of Whelan.

[thegeneral 2,775]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Well, you could try the whole story, but why would you do that.

Who said I wasn't happy they're coming home?  I'm just calling the administration a bunch of pieces of trash for prioritizing a pot head over them and thinking that a mass murderer was a fair price.  Curious to see what we gave up here.

They didn’t do this. You can read about how the negotiations went down. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,455]

Just now, thegeneral said:

This is not accurate. They have been working on this for some time. Talking about it publicly for years for both these guys. Trump’s team as well in the case of Whelan.

Ok, I'll take your word for it.  Trump felt that Viktor Bout was too high of a price to pay for Whelan.  Apparently the communist party felt that to get Griner back, Bout was acceptable.  So, if the Russians got Bout for Griner (which was too high of a cost for Whelan), how much did we pay to get Whelan back?

[thegeneral 2,775]

4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Ok, I'll take your word for it.  Trump felt that Viktor Bout was too high of a price to pay for Whelan.  Apparently the communist party felt that to get Griner back, Bout was acceptable.  So, if the Russians got Bout for Griner (which was too high of a cost for Whelan), how much did we pay to get Whelan back?

We will see. When Griner was released they were also trying to do Whelan and they negotiation broke down so we took what we could get.

[The Real timschochet 6,026]

German Chancellor Shultz: “I will do this for you, Joe Biden.” The implication being that he would not have done it for Trump. Trump has gone out of his way to alienate Germany and the rest of our NATO allies. 

[JuneJuly 192]

Did the Ukraine sign off on this?  Because apparently Vlad got a whole bunch of his operatives back. 

[HellToupee 1,482]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

German Chancellor Shultz: “I will do this for you, Joe Biden.” The implication being that he would not have done it for Trump. Trump has gone out of his way to alienate Germany and the rest of our NATO allies. 

The chancellor has clarified his comment 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,026]

It’s also being suggested that Putin agreed to this deal now because he was annoyed that Trump bragged that only he, Trump, could get these folks released and that he would do it without any trades. Putin does not like being told what to do.

This was a very complicated deal involving several countries and sophisticated diplomacy. Per reporting, both Biden and Kamala were heavily involved and Biden relied on his personal relationships established over decades. 

Is it unreasonable for me to assume that Trump could not have gotten this deal accomplished? 

[JuneJuly 192]

Vladislav Klyushin, 

Vadim Konoshchenok,  

Roman Seleznev, 

Vadim Krasikov, 

Mikhail Valeryevich Mikushin, 

Alekseyevich Rubtsov,  

Anna Valerevna Dultseva, 

Artem Viktorovich Dultseva, 

to start, rumored number to be up to 30 Russian operatives.  

[JuneJuly 192]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s also being suggested that Putin agreed to this deal now because he was annoyed that Trump bragged that only he, Trump, could get these folks released and that he would do it without any trades. Putin does not like being told what to do.

This was a very complicated deal involving several countries and sophisticated diplomacy. Per reporting, both Biden and Kamala were heavily involved and Biden relied on his personal relationships established over decades. 

Is it unreasonable for me to assume that Trump could not have gotten this deal accomplished? 

If we wanted to read a bunch of BS we'd just log into MSNBC and cut out the middle man (you).

[thegeneral 2,775]

1 minute ago, JuneJuly said:

Vladislav Klyushin, 

Vadim Konoshchenok,  

Roman Seleznev, 

Vadim Krasikov, 

Mikhail Valeryevich Mikushin, 

Alekseyevich Rubtsov,  

Anna Valerevna Dultseva, 

Artem Viktorovich Dultseva, 

to start, rumored number to be up to 30 Russian operatives.  

Send em to Ukraine to get mowed down. 

[seafoam1 2,702]

Oh boy. Let's trade criminals. How fun....