JagFan 124 Posted September 4 Looks like most FF sites give a post draft recap and grades each team.  Yahoo never likes my drafts, but this year I finally achieved a grade of F, and projected record of 0-14-0! . I don’t put a whole lot of stock in it, but wow!  Guess we’ll see how the season goes.  Curious how some more of you long timers/FFers grade out.  And by the way, I lean very heavily on the PPR rankings here on FFToday which have always done me right.  So thank you Mike and the FFToday staff! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 121 Posted September 4 Got a d-  lol I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me even a little... It just has me 2nd guessing myself but all & all there clueless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 585 Posted September 4 I got a B+ from CBS but it scolded me for picking Gibbs over Barkley, Mcbride over Andrews and Ridley over Pickens. What was your team that got an F? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 4 44 minutes ago, JagFan said: Looks like most FF sites give a post draft recap and grades each team.  Yahoo never likes my drafts, but this year I finally achieved a grade of F, and projected record of 0-14-0! . I don’t put a whole lot of stock in it, but wow!  Guess we’ll see how the season goes.  Curious how some more of you long timers/FFers grade out.  And by the way, I lean very heavily on the PPR rankings here on FFToday which have always done me right.  So thank you Mike and the FFToday staff! most of the drafts I've won I got either a D or an F from yahoo.  Their prediction algorithm is absolutely terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuschWack 58 Posted September 4 I got an A. I'm worried. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 57 Posted September 4 I got a D- last year immediately after the Draft, and got my balls busted by league mates, I started 5-1 and #1 in Total Points. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 133 Posted September 4 From A to D, depending on the league. Fun to look at but little relation to how good your team will be.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HotRod 21 Posted September 4 I know that if I get bottom 3 on ESPN I will do well. Happens every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
defectivesupport 8 Posted September 4 yahoo grades directly off their xrank vs where you picked them. If you didn't follow yahoo xrank, you will get a worse grade. I know I usually get docked for picking players round 10+ that aren't their pick of the litter. Our running joke is that if yahoo ranks you 1st out of the draft, you have zero chance to win the league. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 4 30 minutes ago, defectivesupport said: yahoo grades directly off their xrank vs where you picked them. If you didn't follow yahoo xrank, you will get a worse grade. I know I usually get docked for picking players round 10+ that aren't their pick of the litter. Our running joke is that if yahoo ranks you 1st out of the draft, you have zero chance to win the league. Yeah, and if I followed all the yahoo rankings I'd lose my pool. I really dont care if Yahoo ranks me badly. I can make a far better ranking system than anything Yahoo has got. there is a better ranking system here on fftoday if you care to look. while its not perfect its a whole lot more than anything yahoo has (or ever will have)  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 158 Posted September 5 On 9/4/2024 at 9:42 AM, JagFan said: Looks like most FF sites give a post draft recap and grades each team.  Yahoo never likes my drafts, but this year I finally achieved a grade of F, and projected record of 0-14-0! . I don’t put a whole lot of stock in it, but wow!  Guess we’ll see how the season goes.  Curious how some more of you long timers/FFers grade out.  And by the way, I lean very heavily on the PPR rankings here on FFToday which have always done me right.  So thank you Mike and the FFToday staff! Can we see the roster? TIA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 5 yahoo also does not value breakout candidates very well. they project based on previous years stats for the most part.  so if picking breakout candidates they will often assign a poor grade for that but when you factor in upside that bad pick in yahoos eyes is actually good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotisserieking 37 Posted September 5 I gave myself a C- but somehow Yahoo gave me a B- and a projected 5th place 8-6 finish. I got skrewed by Byepocalypse in week 12. 3 of my first 4 picks have a bye that week so during the draft I skipped 3 guys I wanted because they were also on week 12 byes. In the end I think I messed up by doing that versus getting the right guys for all the other weeks. I need to pay less attention to the bye week. UGH. QB: Tua, Richardson RB: Bijan (keeper), Kamara, Zeke, Najee, Charbonnet, Allgeier WR: Chase (keeper), Evans, DeVonta, Jayden Reed, McConkey TE: Kittle K/D: who cares Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 5 1 minute ago, rotisserieking said: I gave myself a C- but somehow Yahoo gave me a B- and a projected 5th place 8-6 finish. I got skrewed by Byepocalypse in week 12. 3 of my first 4 picks have a bye that week so during the draft I skipped 3 guys I wanted because they were also on week 12 byes. In the end I think I messed up by doing that versus getting the right guys for all the other weeks. I need to pay less attention to the bye week. UGH. QB: Tua, Richardson RB: Bijan (keeper), Kamara, Zeke, Najee, Charbonnet, Allgeier WR: Chase (keeper), Evans, DeVonta, Jayden Reed, McConkey TE: Kittle K/D: who cares I think thats better than a C-.  in this case Yahoos ranking of your team is likely reasonably close. but you also drafted a lot of veterans and not too many rookies but its a well rounded team with decent talent throughout the lineuup.  looks like a surefire playoff team if you stay healthy. I dont know if Id say this is a championship team. you're probably one good move away from putting yourself in that conversation though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,547 Posted September 5 Yahoo relies too much on picks versus ADP to give their analysis. Basically if you take a bunch of dudes before their ADP you will get trashed. If you take a bunch of dudes- later you won't. Case in point I'm in a heavy IDP draft so you will see IDP guys go early in that with offensive players falling to the back end of the draft (Like I got Romeo Doubs in the 24th round with the 237th pick- Yahoo loved that pick because his ADP value was like 118. Never mind that he only went that late because you are drafting 8 IDP's in the course of the draft. Additionally- they don't take into account positional scarcity and draft positions. If you have the 1st pick (or last pick) there is a better chance you will reach on a guy in the odd ( or even) rounds because you almost have to if there is a guy you really want.  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rotisserieking 37 Posted September 5 35 minutes ago, Ray_T said: I think thats better than a C-.  in this case Yahoos ranking of your team is likely reasonably close. but you also drafted a lot of veterans and not too many rookies but its a well rounded team with decent talent throughout the lineuup.  looks like a surefire playoff team if you stay healthy. I dont know if Id say this is a championship team. you're probably one good move away from putting yourself in that conversation though. Well thank you sir for the confidence boost. Wasn't feeling great after the draft and got sniped 4 times but hey, that's how it goes. Good news is you are right: getting to the championship will be done during the season with waiver wire adds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,417 Posted September 5 as much as it pains me to say it, entering your draft results into FBG's rate my team tool is so much better than anything ESPN or Yahoo spits out. At least there is an explanation, position by position... even if you disagree with their outlooks on players. At the very least it's a fun read. ESPN for example gives you a letter grade and more or less no explanation. And their power rankings is nothing more than the season long projected total of your current starting lineup. I suppose that's probably the best thing they can go by but its very fluid.  My final draft of the year was graded C by ESPN, projected 8th post draft in power rankings (adjusted to 10th when we fixed one minor kicker scoring setting) .... the same roster loaded into FBG's graded as A- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 124 Posted September 5 2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Can we see the roster? TIA. I don’t really want this to be a rate my team.  It has a mix of good and bad picks.  I waited until the end for a TE (not intentional I just didn’t see value at the position on each pick) so I ended up with T Hill for example of a bad pick.  I also reached a little early on T Mclauren because I personally see Washington as being better this year than a lot probably do.  QBs K Murray, J Daniels.  RBs Bijan, K Walker iii, Benson, Brian Robinson.  WRs Olave, D Adams, McLauren, JSN, Hollywood Brown.  12 team PPR. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: Additionally- they don't take into account positional scarcity and draft positions. If you have the 1st pick (or last pick) there is a better chance you will reach on a guy in the odd ( or even) rounds because you almost have to if there is a guy you really want. thats why I like drafting from the middle of the draft. its much easier to get one guy who is a steal at his ADP. but doing it in back to back picks?  not always easy unless the draft falls just right. so I find drafting on the end to be a lot harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 5 1 hour ago, WhiteWonder said: as much as it pains me to say it, entering your draft results into FBG's rate my team tool is so much better than anything ESPN or Yahoo spits out. At least there is an explanation, position by position... even if you disagree with their outlooks on players. At the very least it's a fun read. ESPN for example gives you a letter grade and more or less no explanation. And their power rankings is nothing more than the season long projected total of your current starting lineup. I suppose that's probably the best thing they can go by but its very fluid.  My final draft of the year was graded C by ESPN, projected 8th post draft in power rankings (adjusted to 10th when we fixed one minor kicker scoring setting) .... the same roster loaded into FBG's graded as A- well, its better than Yahoo, but the bar is pretty low. I think both of them undervalue the rookies and second year players a fair bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,417 Posted September 5 1 hour ago, JagFan said: I don’t really want this to be a rate my team.  It has a mix of good and bad picks.  I waited until the end for a TE (not intentional I just didn’t see value at the position on each pick) so I ended up with T Hill for example of a bad pick.  I also reached a little early on T Mclauren because I personally see Washington as being better this year than a lot probably do.  QBs K Murray, J Daniels.  RBs Bijan, K Walker iii, Benson, Brian Robinson.  WRs Olave, D Adams, McLauren, JSN, Hollywood Brown.  12 team PPR. i mean its tough to get Bijan, Adams and Olave in a 12 team format. So based on that alone, it's hard for me to buy an F grade on your team. I have Daniels as my first QB drafted in all my leagues (usually paired with a Lawrence, Goff, Cousins type) so your duo is hypothetically better.... Walker must have been your 4th rounder and mcLaurin was the reach in the 5th? Meh. My guess is the F draft rating is based almost entirely on Taysom Hill being your starting TE 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 5 9 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: i mean its tough to get Bijan, Adams and Olave in a 12 team format. So based on that alone, it's hard for me to buy an F grade on your team. I have Daniels as my first QB drafted in all my leagues (usually paired with a Lawrence, Goff, Cousins type) so your duo is hypothetically better.... Walker must have been your 4th rounder and mcLaurin was the reach in the 5th? Meh. My guess is the F draft rating is based almost entirely on Taysom Hill being your starting TE I'd concur. I looked at your team and it didnt look bad. only spot I didnt care for is TE but I'm betting one will emerge during the season and you will be fine. I'd say there is no scenario where I'd give this team an F or even a D or C.  You're in B range or better.  feels like a playoff team (assuming good health) all this does is validate my opinion that Yahoo ratings are total crap.  nothing more. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 124 Posted September 5 33 minutes ago, Ray_T said: I'd concur. I looked at your team and it didnt look bad. only spot I didnt care for is TE but I'm betting one will emerge during the season and you will be fine. I'd say there is no scenario where I'd give this team an F or even a D or C.  You're in B range or better.  feels like a playoff team (assuming good health) all this does is validate my opinion that Yahoo ratings are total crap.  nothing more. Thanks guys.  Hock is available, but no IR spot.  I’m sure a TE will emerge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 121 Posted September 5 10 team 2qb super flex I'm projected last place 2-10 whatcha think  : QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, W/T, W/R, W/R/T, W/R/T, Q/W/R/T, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR, IR Jalen Hurts Joe Burrow Aaron Rodgers Justin Herbert Saquon Barkley Kenneth Walker 3rd Zamir White Blake Corum Rico Dowdle Jaleel McLaughlin Kendre Miller Cooper Kupp Malik Nabers Joshua Palmer Rome Odunze Jerry Jeudy Darnell Mooney Wan'Dale Robinson DJ Chark Quentin Johnston Greg Dortch Malachi Corley Olamide Zaccheaus  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 124 Posted September 5 1 hour ago, gcmmidwest said: 10 team 2qb super flex I'm projected last place 2-10 whatcha think  : QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, W/T, W/R, W/R/T, W/R/T, Q/W/R/T, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR, IR Jalen Hurts Joe Burrow Aaron Rodgers Justin Herbert Saquon Barkley Kenneth Walker 3rd Zamir White Blake Corum Rico Dowdle Jaleel McLaughlin Kendre Miller Cooper Kupp Malik Nabers Joshua Palmer Rome Odunze Jerry Jeudy Darnell Mooney Wan'Dale Robinson DJ Chark Quentin Johnston Greg Dortch Malachi Corley Olamide Zaccheaus  Love the White pick.  I really wanted him but just missed him.  Looks solid at every position to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 133 Posted September 5 2 hours ago, gcmmidwest said: 10 team 2qb super flex I'm projected last place 2-10 whatcha think  : QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, W/T, W/R, W/R/T, W/R/T, Q/W/R/T, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, IR, IR, IR Jalen Hurts Joe Burrow Aaron Rodgers Justin Herbert Saquon Barkley Kenneth Walker 3rd Zamir White Blake Corum Rico Dowdle Jaleel McLaughlin Kendre Miller Cooper Kupp Malik Nabers Joshua Palmer Rome Odunze Jerry Jeudy Darnell Mooney Wan'Dale Robinson DJ Chark Quentin Johnston Greg Dortch Malachi Corley Olamide Zaccheaus  Forced to start 3 WR? Guess that’s the problem  I don’t play Superflex but I guess that’s why, you loaded up QBs at cost of WR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcmmidwest 121 Posted September 5 5 minutes ago, Phil Simms 11 said: Forced to start 3 WR? Guess that’s the problem  I don’t play Superflex but I guess that’s why, you loaded up QBs at cost of WR Yes last year was miserable losing arod ...flacco was my saving grace ....with bye weeks it's nice to be loaded at qb ...I just need to stay on top of the waiver and land a couple wr's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 6 5 hours ago, JagFan said: Thanks guys.  Hock is available, but no IR spot.  I’m sure a TE will emerge. I'd look at teams with more than one TE. if injuries hit, its usually that second TE that gets cut loose. so check em all out so you know who you wanna pounce on when they dump them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,417 Posted September 6 6 hours ago, JagFan said: Thanks guys.  Hock is available, but no IR spot.  I’m sure a TE will emerge. even with no IR spot, I think you should be strongly considering picking him up since he is expected back around week 7. you listed 11 players before. Taysom would be 12. kicker and DST is 14... I assume your rosters are around 16? must be someone you can drop for Hock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 687 Posted September 6 likely may have just emerged for you. not sure hes a long term solution but hes sure looking good today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sco 0 Posted September 6 My two teams - one got a C- and one an A+. Can you guess which was which?  Team 1 Murray/Tua CMC/Mixon/Swift/McLughlin/Benson Puka/Waddle/Higgins/McConkey McBride McPherson CLE  Team 2 Stroud/Tua Henry/Conner/Singletary/Chandler AJ Brown/Dionte Johnson/Kupp/Sutton/Mike Williams Kincaid Santos MIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
