Trump 340 EV - Harris 198 EV...Even Minn, VA, and N.H. trending to Trump.

[jonmx 1,888]

I am so sick of the moronic headlines with blatantly false polling with grossly over sampled Democrat voters.  No Harris is not winning Michigan or Pennselvania.  No Harris is not up 7 points nationally.  No Harris is not winning North Carolina or Arizona or New Mexico.  ABC who now runs 538 and Quinnipiac are liars who have lied about polling results every election Trump has ever been in.  Pollsters like Quinnipiac are consistently wrong by margins as large as 10 points and and always wrong in the same direction.   That is not polling error, that is gross polling bias for the purpose of propaganda.

The truth is Harris is losing nationally by a couole of points and has no chance in Georgia, NC, Arizona, or New Mexico.   Those states are going more than +5 for Trump.  The races are closer in PA, MI, and Wisconsin, but Trump still has a couple point advantages in these states and should hold on.  Meanwhile Harris is fighting to hold on to states like Minnesota and New Hampshire. Harris only path to victory will be a sweep of the rust belt states which at this point is unlikely.  If the election were held today, Trump would end up with more than 310 EVs.  

[HotRod 23]

You mad bro?

[edjr 6,168]

Another political thread. Weepaws prayers have been answered. 

[jonmx 1,888]

19 minutes ago, HotRod said:

You mad bro?

No, I just like the truth and am sick of morons who buy into the lies sold to them by the elitist propaganda machine.  We are fighting the ignorance of braindead cultists.   But keep bootlicking for your authoritarian masters.  Some people love being slaves. 

[Sean Mooney 1,547]

3 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No, I just like the truth and am sick of morons who buy into the lies sold to them by the elitist propaganda machine.  We are fighting the ignorance of braindead cultists.   But keep bootlicking for your authoritarian masters.  Some people love being slaves. 

I doubt he gets to 315. That just isn't the political reality anymore with as fractured as the country is. Trump got 304 last time and that was sweeping the Rust Belt. Long gone are the days of straight routs by one candidate over another and 315 would be a rout in this current political landscape.

The truth is Harris is not losing nationally. According to RCP- Harris is up in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania but are all well within the margin of error. 

I said the other day I think Trump wins but it won't be with 315 electoral votes. 

[MDC 6,482]

37 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No, I just like the truth and am sick of morons who buy into the lies sold to them by the elitist propaganda machine.  We are fighting the ignorance of braindead cultists.   But keep bootlicking for your authoritarian masters.  Some people love being slaves. 

Rich irony coming from a guy who’s convinced a crooked businessman with a 40-year record of fraud and sexual assault is General George Washington meets Neo from the Matrix.  

[HotRod 23]

16 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No, I just like the truth and am sick of morons who buy into the lies sold to them by the elitist propaganda machine.  We are fighting the ignorance of braindead cultists.   But keep bootlicking for your authoritarian masters.  Some people love being slaves. 

I hear you but there isn't anything we can do about it.  Just vote.  It's not worth getting mad over.

[The Real timschochet 4,804]

Well I’m So glad we now have the truth. I am a bit mystified as to why 538 and so many pollsters would deliberately lie only to be embarrassed and humiliated in November. 

[The Real timschochet 4,804]

Jon is setting himself up for a rejection of what’s going to happen on Election Day. After Harris wins (I predict we will have the results that night) Jon will tell himself it’s impossible and conclude that, once again, the election must have been stolen, 

[Sean Mooney 1,547]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Jon is setting himself up for a rejection of what’s going to happen on Election Day. After Harris wins (I predict we will have the results that night) Jon will tell himself it’s impossible and conclude that, once again, the election must have been stolen, 

you would have to think we will know on election night. Last time it carried for a few days but that was due to lots of mail in ballots because of COVID stuff. Should be mostly back to normal this year

[weepaws 2,814]

36 minutes ago, jonmx said:

No, I just like the truth and am sick of morons who buy into the lies sold to them by the elitist propaganda machine.  We are fighting the ignorance of braindead cultists.   But keep bootlicking for your authoritarian masters.  Some people love being slaves. 

You are talking about voters, I agree. 

[jonmx 1,888]

43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well I’m So glad we now have the truth. I am a bit mystified as to why 538 and so many pollsters would deliberately lie only to be embarrassed and humiliated in November. 

ABC and Quinniac were off 6 and 10 percent respectively last election while polls like Atlasintel and Rasmussen had far better results.  They are not embarrassed because they know the people at 538 will cover for them and will declare the crappy polls as high-quality and the superior polls which performed much better as average or even ignore them completely like they have done to Rasmussen.   The people you trust a total fraudsters. 

[jonmx 1,888]

38 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Jon is setting himself up for a rejection of what’s going to happen on Election Day. After Harris wins (I predict we will have the results that night) Jon will tell himself it’s impossible and conclude that, once again, the election must have been stolen, 

 

Says the guys who endlessly quotes BS polls suggesting a massive Harris win, but refuses to bet on it.  

[Patented Phil 1,124]

I agree directionally with the OP.  The propagandists in the MSM will misrepresent the truth and bend it till it’s about the break, then accuse others of misinformation.  It’s disgusting.

I called 2016 and 2020, and this time around I’m feeling like we’ll see something more akin to 2016.  This presupposes that Trump doesn’t fock it up by saying or doing something that causes a shittstorm - which is more than a good possibility.

[MDC 6,482]

1 minute ago, Patented Phil said:

I agree directionally with the OP.  The propagandists in the MSM will misrepresent the truth and bend it till it’s about the break, then accuse others of misinformation.  It’s disgusting.

I called 2016 and 2020, and this time around I’m feeling like we’ll see something more akin to 2016.  This presupposes that Trump doesn’t fock it up by saying or doing something that causes a shittstorm - which is more than a good possibility.

What could Trump possibly say or do that’s going to put a dent in his support? He makes up stories about migrants eating pets, hangs out with weirdo Nazis, made the worst VP pick in modern history, got utterly destroyed in the only debate. His every public appearance is an embarrassment. And here he is, a coin flip away from a second term.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 13,735]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

What could Trump possibly say or do that’s going to put a dent in his support? He makes up stories about migrants eating pets, hangs out with weirdo Nazis, made the worst VP pick in modern history, got utterly destroyed in the only debate. His every public appearance is an embarrassment. And here he is, a coin flip away from a second term.

 

So? You’re not voting for him or Harris. Why so emotional? 

[kilroy69 1,114]

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

I am so sick of the moronic headlines with blatantly false polling with grossly over sampled Democrat voters.  No Harris is not winning Michigan or Pennselvania.  No Harris is not up 7 points nationally.  No Harris is not winning North Carolina or Arizona or New Mexico.  ABC who now runs 538 and Quinnipiac are liars who have lied about polling results every election Trump has ever been in.  Pollsters like Quinnipiac are consistently wrong by margins as large as 10 points and and always wrong in the same direction.   That is not polling error, that is gross polling bias for the purpose of propaganda.

The truth is Harris is losing nationally by a couole of points and has no chance in Georgia, NC, Arizona, or New Mexico.   Those states are going more than +5 for Trump.  The races are closer in PA, MI, and Wisconsin, but Trump still has a couple point advantages in these states and should hold on.  Meanwhile Harris is fighting to hold on to states like Minnesota and New Hampshire. Harris only path to victory will be a sweep of the rust belt states which at this point is unlikely.  If the election were held today, Trump would end up with more than 310 EVs.  

The democratic propaganda machine is absurd. If you call them on it they just assume you are a trumper and attack you instead of looking at it from a independent standpoint. MSNBC, CNN, NPR and a host of websites like Yahoo and Salon are so biased to democratic views that it is hard to even listen to the nonstop nonsense they pump out. It is PURE propaganda intended to get republicans or independents to not even vote because Harris is going to win anyway. 

[The Real timschochet 4,804]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

What could Trump possibly say or do that’s going to put a dent in his support? He makes up stories about migrants eating pets, hangs out with weirdo Nazis, made the worst VP pick in modern history, got utterly destroyed in the only debate. His every public appearance is an embarrassment. And here he is, a coin flip away from a second term.

 

It’s truly an embarrassment- even his candidacy is a historical stain on our country that we will always have. 

[The Real timschochet 4,804]

36 minutes ago, jonmx said:

 

Says the guys who endlessly quotes BS polls suggesting a massive Harris win, but refuses to bet on it.  

You don’t need me. Here is a list of all the betting sites and odds: 

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Since they all favor Kamala Harris to win, and since the “TRUTH” according to you is that Trump has over 300 electoral votes locked up, go get your money. 

[Sean Mooney 1,547]

The hero worship of Trump is so bizarre. Hero worship of any politician is bizarre.

Trump isn't some conquering hero fighting the big bad conspiracy. 

[jerryskids 5,905]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

you would have to think we will know on election night. Last time it carried for a few days but that was due to lots of mail in ballots because of COVID stuff. Should be mostly back to normal this year

Didn't a Georgia judge recently rule that they need to hand count every ballot?  If so, that won't help them finish on election day.

26 minutes ago, MDC said:

What could Trump possibly say or do that’s going to put a dent in his support? He makes up stories about migrants eating pets, hangs out with weirdo Nazis, made the worst VP pick in modern history, got utterly destroyed in the only debate. His every public appearance is an embarrassment. And here he is, a coin flip away from a second term.

 

Vance is going to curb stomp Coach Grampa Weirdo Walz in the debate, who will try to aw shucks his way through a debate with a Yale law school grad.   

[Tree of Knowledge 1,288]

It’s going to be so sweet when Tim and his sycophants wake up on 11/6 and realize they have been swept out far in the sea by a Trump tidal wave.  

[The Real timschochet 4,804]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

 Tim and his sycophants  

I’d so love to have sycophants. Where are my sycophants? 

[weepaws 2,814]

30 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The hero worship of Trump is so bizarre. Hero worship of any politician is bizarre.

Trump isn't some conquering hero fighting the big bad conspiracy. 

Voting for Harris is a lack of wisdom. 

[MDC 6,482]

19 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Vance is going to curb stomp Coach Grampa Weirdo Walz in the debate, who will try to aw shucks his way through a debate with a Yale law school grad.   

I don’t doubt Vance is a smart guy. Unfortunately, he struggles to impersonate an earthling and has whatever the opposite of “charisma” is. 

Every time I see him speak I’m reminded of Peefoam trying to convince the GC that he’s a successful well-liked retiree.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,328]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well I’m So glad we now have the truth. I am a bit mystified as to why 538 and so many pollsters would deliberately lie only to be embarrassed and humiliated in November. 

I don't think they're lying.  I think they're putting out the data they're collecting.  I don't think the data is good though.  I know I've actually had people call me and text asking about the election.  I've firmly said I'm voting for Harris and followed the leftist party line.  I want the left to think they're polling is strong and that their turnout is lowered.  I want the right to believe the left is polling strong so that the right get out and vote.  I know of other people who have done this as well.

[Sean Mooney 1,547]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I don't think they're lying.  I think they're putting out the data they're collecting.  I don't think the data is good though.  I know I've actually had people call me and text asking about the election.  I've firmly said I'm voting for Harris and followed the leftist party line.  I want the left to think they're polling is strong and that their turnout is lowered.  I want the right to believe the left is polling strong so that the right get out and vote.  I know of other people who have done this as well.

Are you over the ago of 60?

[TBayXXXVII 2,328]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Are you over the ago of 60?

No, 44.

[Sean Mooney 1,547]

12 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

No, 44.

And you answer the phone and talk to people about who you are voting for?

[jonmx 1,888]

12 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I don't think they're lying.  I think they're putting out the data they're collecting.  I don't think the data is good though.  I know I've actually had people call me and text asking about the election.  I've firmly said I'm voting for Harris and followed the leftist party line.  I want the left to think they're polling is strong and that their turnout is lowered.  I want the right to believe the left is polling strong so that the right get out and vote.  I know of other people who have done this as well.

The are actually lying.   They know exactly how the demographics looked in previous elections.  Pollsters collect data and if you want to be accurate adjust the data so thst it as closely as possible represents what the expected electorate looks look.  When you adjust your data to an electorate which over represents Democrats by 5 to 10 percent, it is intentional.   When your polling is off 5 t0 10 percent in favor of Democrats in every poll you take, it is intentional.  

[The Real timschochet 4,804]

16 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I don't think they're lying.  I think they're putting out the data they're collecting.  I don't think the data is good though.  I know I've actually had people call me and text asking about the election.  I've firmly said I'm voting for Harris and followed the leftist party line.  I want the left to think they're polling is strong and that their turnout is lowered.  I want the right to believe the left is polling strong so that the right get out and vote.  I know of other people who have done this as well.

How many people are doing this? A dozen? A few hundred nationwide? It shouldn’t change any numbers. 

[Beaker15 175]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

What could Trump possibly say or do that’s going to put a dent in his support? He makes up stories about migrants eating pets, hangs out with weirdo Nazis, made the worst VP pick in modern history, got utterly destroyed in the only debate. His every public appearance is an embarrassment. And here he is, a coin flip away from a second term.

 

Almost everything you said here is a lie

[Beaker15 175]

36 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

It’s going to be so sweet when Tim and his sycophants wake up on 11/6 and realize they have been swept out far in the sea by a Trump tidal wave.  

Great posting.  They won't know what hit them.  2016 all over again.

[jonmx 1,888]

27 minutes ago, MDC said:

I don’t doubt Vance is a smart guy. Unfortunately, he struggles to impersonate an earthling and has whatever the opposite of “charisma” is. 

Every time I see him speak I’m reminded of Peefoam trying to convince the GC that he’s a successful well-liked retiree.  

And the cackling 78-IQ DEI-hire condescending idiot who can't do an honest interview whose only accomplishment in 4 years is opening the floodgates for illegals to enter the country has been the best VP and has charisma????

[Baker Boy 1,622]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well I’m So glad we now have the truth. I am a bit mystified as to why 538 and so many pollsters would deliberately lie only to be embarrassed and humiliated in November. 

Why did they do it in 2016?

[jerryskids 5,905]

43 minutes ago, MDC said:

I don’t doubt Vance is a smart guy. Unfortunately, he struggles to impersonate an earthling and has whatever the opposite of “charisma” is. 

Every time I see him speak I’m reminded of Peefoam trying to convince the GC that he’s a successful well-liked retiree.  

Funny, I've seen him be quite charismatic in several situations.  On a side note, Kamala has negative charisma, if that is possible. 

Guess we'll see at the debate.   

[Mike Honcho 4,516]

You guys know that these polling companies actually get paid by others to do this polling and accuracy is somewhat important to the people paying for the information, right?

[HellToupee 1,100]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’d so love to have sycophants. Where are my sycophants? 

@squistion tim is looking for you

[Hardcore troubadour 13,735]

14 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

You guys know that these polling companies actually get paid by others to do this polling and accuracy is somewhat important to the people paying for the information, right?

They were awesome in 2016 and 2022.  You’re a cute kid but very naive. 

[MDC 6,482]

49 minutes ago, Beaker15 said:

Almost everything you said here is a lie

I stand by it.