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2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

No, he did not. 

Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All

Schwartz had ghostwritten Trump’s 1987 breakthrough memoir, earning a joint byline on the cover, half of the book’s five-hundred-thousand-dollar advance, and half of the royalties. The book was a phenomenal success, spending forty-eight weeks on the Times best-seller list, thirteen of them at No. 1. More than a million copies have been bought, generating several million dollars in royalties. The book expanded Trump’s renown far beyond New York City, making him an emblem of the successful tycoon. Edward Kosner, the former editor and publisher of New York, where Schwartz worked as a writer at the time, says, “Tony created Trump. He’s Dr. Frankenstein.”

 

Well now we know who to go after.

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17 minutes ago, Strike said:

Didn't Trump warn these countries months ago that this was coming?

Yes. One of the very many reasons I didn’t vote for him. Do you think this is a good idea? 

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22 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Get rid of the IRS and income tax.  Use tariffs to recoup that money.  Give more incentives to companies to keep manufacturing in the US.  The US should be the power house we always brag it up to be.

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So instead of paying income tax we're gonna pay $300 to fill the tank or $10 for an avocado? 🤣

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Just now, TrailGuy said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣

So instead of paying income tax we're gonna pay $300 to fill the tank or $10 for an avocado? 🤣

I'm not against there being a consumption tax.  I would rather keep the money I earn and spend it the way I want.

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2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣

So instead of paying income tax we're gonna pay $300 to fill the tank or $10 for an avocado? 🤣

We’re going to put a tariff on our own oil?  And Avocados grow in California.  

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4 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

So instead of paying income tax we're gonna pay $300 to fill the tank or $10 for an avocado? 🤣

Just like we did last time Trump was in office 😂 You're failing miserably BOYO 

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7 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣

So instead of paying income tax we're gonna pay $300 to fill the tank or $10 for an avocado? 🤣

No. Creepy joe is out of the white house now. You can relax. 

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6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We’re going to put a tariff on our own oil?  And Avocados grow in California.  

I was confused by his reasoning as well.

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Only 10%. 90% of the avocados Americans consume come from Mexico.  

Avocados suck anyway 

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The list I just posted is only of the items most affected and it is VERY incomplete. If we consider that the likeliest result of these tariffs is that the 3 countries affected will retaliate with new tariffs in kind then we can expect all sorts of unforeseen consequences, along with increased unemployment, etc. 

Keep in mind that though we have had tariffs before, both during Trump and Biden, we have NEVER had anything close to 25% tariffs on our two largest trading partners. It will be the largest tariffs in our history, bigger than Smoot-Hawley. I believe that if it lasts it will bring our currently booming economy to a grinding halt. 

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10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here is a list of the items that will go way up: 

Sneakers Don't care

Furniture Don't care

Toys  Don't care

Automobiles That is a concern

Beer Don't care

Avocados Don't care

Coats Don't care

French Fries Don't care

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/20/trump-tariff-news-products-and-companies-most-at-risk.html

No one needs any of those things to be cheap in order to live a happy life, accept maybe vehicles.

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10 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Avocados suck anyway 

We should be growing more of our own food anyway.

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20 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

No one needs any of those things to be cheap in order to live a happy life, accept maybe vehicles.

Even if you don’t care, most people will. And if most people are hurt by this then you won’t be able to escape being negatively affected yourself. That’s how trade inevitably works. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Even if you don’t care, most people will. And if most people are hurt by this then you won’t be able to escape being negatively affected yourself. That’s how trade inevitably works. 

Having out money taken from us is affecting us all right now.  I'd rather keep my money and spend it how I want. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Even if you don’t care, most people will. And if most people are hurt by this then you won’t be able to escape being negatively affected yourself. That’s how trade inevitably works. 

in the short term they will hurt us.  I'm talking 1 to 2 years.   After about a year the other countries will hopefully see that we can withstand the hurt more than they & cave.  I'm a wait and see guy but I understand they will hurt in the short term.

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Just now, shadrap said:

in the short term they will hurt us.  I'm talking 1 to 2 years.   After about a year the other countries will hopefully see that we can withstand the hurt more than they & cave.  I'm a wait and see guy but I understand they will hurt in the short term.

Cave how? We have free trade agreements with Canada and Mexico- Trump renegotiated them himself. What are you expecting them to do now? Trump’s vague demand is that they help us with border control. No specifics offered. That’s why this is madness. 

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3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Having out money taken from us is affecting us all right now.  I'd rather keep my money and spend it how I want. 

You seem to think these tariffs will be an alternative to income tax. I don’t think that’s happening. 

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Just now, The Real timschochet said:

You seem to think these tariffs will be an alternative to income tax. I don’t think that’s happening. 

I'm saying, that's what I prefer.  It use to be that way before income tax.  I also said I'm up for a consumption tax.

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Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm saying, that's what I prefer.  It use to be that way before income tax.  I also said I'm up for a consumption tax.

I don’t believe either will happen in our lifetimes 

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37 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

We should be growing more of our own food anyway.

That's not going to help out with the cost of groceries down.

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We’re going to put a tariff on our own oil?  And Avocados grow in California.  

We import 4.3M barrels of oil a day from Canada boyo.  Stop being such a low information person.

And 90% of our avocados come from Mexico.  Again, you're low information.  You run your mouth too much for knowing close to nothing boyo.

Be Better.

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1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yes. One of the very many reasons I didn’t vote for him. Do you think this is a good idea? 

Yeah cause there's any circumstance you would have voted for Trump lol.  As far as this goes, his tariffs didn't hurt us last time despite people like you whining about them so I'll take a wait and see approach.  I suspect everything will work out fine. 

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Just now, CaptainObvious1 said:

NOW the libs are worried about the cost of food?  That's rich.

Yeah, @The Real timschochet didn't complain about Biden's policies driving prices up.  But Trump.......

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2 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said:

NOW the libs are worried about the cost of food?  That's rich.

NOW the Magas don't care about the cost of food? That's rich.

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1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

NOW the Magas don't care about the cost of food? That's rich.

I already know you post like a 6 year old.  You don't have to keep proving it to me.

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden’s tariffs drove prices up and I complained about them. Trump’s tariffs will be way worse. 

Not talking specifically about Tariffs re: Biden.  That's why I used the word policies and not tariffs in my post. 

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10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden’s tariffs drove prices up and I complained about them. Trump’s tariffs will be way worse. 

Sure they will. :doh:

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6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Not talking specifically about Tariffs re: Biden.  That's why I used the word policies and not tariffs in my post. 

Some of Biden’s other policies helped drive prices up but I didn’t complain about them because I believed they were necessary to extricate us out of the bigger crisis of the COVID economy. I still believe that and think that he was successful, and will go down in history as a successful President. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Some of Biden’s other policies helped drive prices up but I didn’t complain about them because I believed they were necessary to extricate us out of the bigger crisis of the COVID economy. I still believe that and think that he was successful, and will go down in history as a successful President. 

No one cares about your opinions because they're usually wrong.

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So funny to me that the usual suspects who are always saying that nobody cares about my opinions are the same ones who respond to almost every one of my posts, and when I haven’t posted in a while, tag me. 

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4 minutes ago, Strike said:

No one cares about your opinions because they're usually wrong.

But you have to read and reply to every one of his posts :doh:

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Then why do you mention my opinions and tag me? 

Not because I care what you think, that's for sure.

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1 minute ago, Strike said:

Not because I care what you think, that's for sure.

Well there must be some other reason then. You come off like an obsessed fan. It’s not healthy, 

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5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yesterday @Strike bumped one of his own posts tagging me because a few hours had gone by and I hadn’t yet responded. So frigging desperate. 

I've never seen anyone follow another person around the way Strike does with you.  It's so pathetic. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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