Here come the tariffs

[lickin_starfish]

32 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I agree that Rupubicans, or conservatives have no better a track record than do liberals.  I merely note that for liberals it is a core belief while conservatives or republicans at least acknowledge the problem.  The reason I am a fan of neither party is that they do what they want fiscally to address gaining and staying in power in the now and the immediate future.  Neither has our long term interests at heart.  They both have the impulse control of children.  Oh to get an adult in charge, one who can provide for the future and is willing to suffer a bit of austerity now to arrive at that future.

The economy is built on a pile of expanding debt (printing money). Stop the expansion of debt, and the money train stops. Let the money printer run, and inflation chips away at the dollar. 

One adult in charge isn't going to fix that.

[Hardcore troubadour]

10 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Markets reacting.

 

 

Update? 

[lickin_starfish]

23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Update? 

Update? Looks like it worked. 

https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916

[Hardcore troubadour]

4 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Update? Looks like it worked. 

https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916

Gutterboy was saying the markets are going down due to Trumps tariff policy.  Of course the opposite happened.  He’s the mighty mush. 

[Hawkeye21]

I don't really get the Canada tariff.

[The Phantom's Phantom]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So if we cut the tariffs on China they will drop their prices?

China doesn't pay the tariffs.  Do you need me to explain to you how tariffs work?

[The Phantom's Phantom]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I'm calling you a child for equating "close the border" with "zero illegal aliens or else it's a failure."

Child

I never said that. You're unhinged.

[The Phantom's Phantom]

24 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Update? Looks like it worked. 

https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916

Meaning that there are no longer caravans of illegals and haven't been for some time.  Has nothing to do with the tariffs.

[Hardcore troubadour]

5 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

China doesn't pay the tariffs.  Do you need me to explain to you how tariffs work?

Right. So if we drop the tariffs the cost of their product will go down?

[The Phantom's Phantom]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Gutterboy was saying the markets are going down due to Trumps tariff policy.  Of course the opposite happened.  He’s the mighty mush. 

No I said markets were reacting, and they are, weaker Canadian dollar and peso, euro equities down.  Meaning the markets don't see this as a negotiation tactic.

[The Phantom's Phantom]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Right. So if we drop the tariffs the cost of their product will go down?

The cost to China remains the same regardless of tariff.  The importer pays the tariff and passes it on to consumer, so no tariff then the likely outcome is that cost is no longer passed on.  Make sense?

[Hardcore troubadour]

Just now, The Phantom's Phantom said:

The cost to China remains the same regardless of tariff.  The importer pays the tariff and passes it on to consumer, so no tariff then the likely outcome is that cost is no longer passed on.  Make sense?

 Yeah. So you think the price would drop wit the removal of the tariff? I’m not asking who pays it. I’m asking about the result. 

[jbycho]

This is so awesome. 

Trump destroying liberal's minds to the point of them not even knowing what happened over the last 4 years around them. 

[nobody]

21 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Soybean farmers 4 years ago you dumb ass.  Then taxpayers had to pay the farmers.

Go Maga!

This dude wants to make economic policy based on what's best for soy bean farmers.  

What a clown

[nobody]

20 hours ago, Death said:

Global drivers caused the inflation under Biden.

What Trumpty Dumpty plans to do will directly cause inflation.

How will you feel when that happens?

BS that global drivers grew inflation.  Biden wanted to buy votes so he passed out free money in the midterms.

[The Phantom's Phantom]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Yeah. So you think the price would drop wit the removal of the tariff? I’m not asking who pays it. I’m asking about the result. 

Yes.  This is what happened in 2023 when his washing machina tariffs expired.

[The Phantom's Phantom]

22 minutes ago, nobody said:

This dude wants to make economic policy based on what's best for soy bean farmers.  

What a clown

This dude thinks it's smart to raise tariffs then get retaliatory tariffs then support farmers with taxpayer money. 

What a clown.

[The Phantom's Phantom]

22 minutes ago, nobody said:

BS that global drivers grew inflation.  Biden wanted to buy votes so he passed out free money in the midterms.

Biden created global inflation

Clown.

[MDC]

16 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Biden created global inflation

He did. And now, Trump is going to stop it.

[Hawkeye21]

Biden just loaned Rivian $6.6 billion. 

[Voltaire]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't really get the Canada tariff.

Understand better?

[The Phantom's Phantom]

President of Mexico b!tch slaps Trump

"Maybe President Trump doesn't know this, but of those arriving at the border—which is significantly fewer, 75 percent less than in December 2023—half them have a CBP One appointment. In other words, they have an appointment. So, they [the U.S.] are the ones inviting them to come to the United States," she said.

Sheinbaum also highlighted Mexico's proactive role in addressing migration while criticizing the U.S. for failing to tackle the root causes. "If a percentage of what the United States spends on war were dedicated to peace and development, it would address the underlying causes of migration," she said, advocating for regional investment over punitive measures.

On the subject of tariffs, Sheinbaum suggested Mexico could retaliate. "One tariff would be followed by another in response, escalating until we risk harming mutual businesses," she warned, pointing to U.S. automakers with manufacturing plants on both sides of the border.

https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916

[Maximum Overkill]

United States may be open to the idea of sending troops into Mexico, as Mexico has already invaded the United States. 

#Stop_The_Invasion 

[The Phantom's Phantom]

5 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

United States may be open to the idea of sending troops into Mexico, as Mexico has already invaded the United States. 

#Stop_The_Invasion 

Sounds great, let's start a war with Mexico.

[Maximum Overkill]

3 minutes ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Sounds great, let's start a war with Mexico.

 . We already are, we've been invaded. 

[The Phantom's Phantom]

Trump says it's about fentanyl and the marks believe him.  Meanwhile fentanyl overdose deaths in the US are plummeting and fentanyl supply in the US is drying up.

[Maximum Overkill]

Just now, The Phantom's Phantom said:

fentanyl supply in the US is drying up

What an idiot 

[The Phantom's Phantom]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

What an idiot 

"The fentanyl supply is drying up for some reason," Ciccarone said. "Hang out on the streets, talk to people — the drugs are hard to find and more expensive."

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s1-5124997/fentanyl-overdose-opioid-btmps-drug-cartel-xylazine-tranq-mexico-china

Wanna try that again?

[Maximum Overkill]

Just now, The Phantom's Phantom said:

"The fentanyl supply is drying up for some reason," Ciccarone said. "Hang out on the streets, talk to people — the drugs are hard to find and more expensive."

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/30/nx-s1-5124997/fentanyl-overdose-opioid-btmps-drug-cartel-xylazine-tranq-mexico-china

Wanna try that again?

NPR  

You're killing me, please stop;  

[Hawkeye21]

2 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Sounds great, let's start a war with Mexico.

I've always thought it would be beneficial for everyone if the US took over Mexico.  Clean up that cartel run country.

[edjr]

On 11/25/2024 at 7:57 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Nice. Good opening to the negotiations. It’s what you do when you have leverage. Gutterboy doesn’t get it. He’s been wrong about so much. 

When you're shorter than Mini Me, you don't really know about leverage

[Hardcore troubadour]

After hearing the gut wrenching testimony in the Laken Riley murder and rape trial Gutterboy is rooting for Mexico. Such a small person.  

[edjr]

2 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

fentanyl supply in the US is drying up.

Libs are using it all up. 

[Strike]

2 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Sounds great, let's start a war with Mexico.

Sure, why not?  It would be about as competitive as when we got in to one with Saddam Hussein in iraq.

[Death]

16 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't really get the Canada tariff.

Canada!

[Death]

I have nothing to substantiate this, but I wonder if Trump's theatened Canada tariff is some kind of retaliatory move for NAFTA hurting his business long ago. He sure had a hard on for NAFTA during his first reign of chaos.

[iam90sbaby]

Sometimes I wish I was a knuckle dragging retard like phantom.  Life would just be easier that way

[RaiderHaters Revenge]

17 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't really get the Canada tariff.

its so it cant be called racissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

[RaiderHaters Revenge]

4 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

President of Mexico b!tch slaps Trump

"Maybe President Trump doesn't know this, but of those arriving at the border—which is significantly fewer, 75 percent less than in December 2023—half them have a CBP One appointment. In other words, they have an appointment. So, they [the U.S.] are the ones inviting them to come to the United States," she said.

Sheinbaum also highlighted Mexico's proactive role in addressing migration while criticizing the U.S. for failing to tackle the root causes. "If a percentage of what the United States spends on war were dedicated to peace and development, it would address the underlying causes of migration," she said, advocating for regional investment over punitive measures.

On the subject of tariffs, Sheinbaum suggested Mexico could retaliate. "One tariff would be followed by another in response, escalating until we risk harming mutual businesses," she warned, pointing to U.S. automakers with manufacturing plants on both sides of the border.

https://www.newsweek.com/caravans-not-reaching-border-says-mexico-president-after-trump-threats-1991916

wait, you told me that Biden wasn't encouraging it

and how is it the US thats responsible for spending on all 3rd world sh1tholes?

[Mike Honcho]

17 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't really get the Canada tariff.

Those Canuck bastards have been crushing American Poutine for decades.