SNF Discussion: 49ers at Bills - Week 13

[nobody 2,489]

Back in the day, when a receiver caught the ball, he and only he got credit for the reception/receiving yards.  Then if he lateraled or fumbled any additional offensive yardage was scored as a run.

Now if seems like they want to give receiving points to everyone who touches the ball. 

[Ray_T 723]

5 hours ago, nobody said:

Back in the day, when a receiver caught the ball, he and only he got credit for the reception/receiving yards.  Then if he lateraled or fumbled any additional offensive yardage was scored as a run.

Now if seems like they want to give receiving points to everyone who touches the ball. 

I'm pretty sure thats still the way they score it.   and I'd argue that is correct.  if the receiver catches a football, and then hands it of or laterals it to a teammate,  then their run picks up from the location the ball was when the ball changed hands.

if the ball carrier gets a TD, they get the fantasy points and credit for that, but it is not a reception.  it is a run.

[Ray_T 723]

7 hours ago, plasma george said:

It was Goff to St. Brown to Gibbs, against Cardinals this year.  (google is your friend). 

Goff got the passing TD and Gibbs got the receiving TD, so I guess Allen's score is correct, getting both the passing TD and receiving TD.

yes, that sounds right.  he just doesnt get credit for the reception as another teammate actually caught the ball.

[plasma george 62]

16 hours ago, Ray_T said:

yes, that sounds right.  he just doesnt get credit for the reception as another teammate actually caught the ball.

I went back to the box score that week, Gibbs was creditted for a Receiving TD

 

[nobody 2,489]

In the olden days, Allen wouldn't have been credited for the TD pass to himself.  He would've been credited with a completion to cooper.  Then his "receiving" TD would've been a rushing TD based on the lateral.  

It's a stupid way to score it.  He clearly didn't pass the ball to himself.

[Gepetto 1,208]

From Friday's Chiefs - Raiders game, ESPN scored a Kelce catch and lateral to Perine as showing Perine with 0 catches for 10 receiving yards. 0 rushes. 0 rushing yards right after the play occurred. A touchdown was not scored on that play so can't help with that part.

[Showboat 250]

Not sure on all the history of scoring rules, but to me it is similar to YAC - if the QB throws a 2-yard forward pass (even if is behind the line of scrimmage) and the receiver runs 60 yards for a TD it goes down as a passing TD (and a TD reception) and all of the yards between the line of scrimmage and the endzone are credited as both passing yards and receiving yards.  Now, if on that same pass the receiver runs 30 yards and then laterals to another player who runs the remaining 30 yards for a TD, the passing stats are exactly the same, but the receiving yards are split between the two players involved and only the player who actually caught the pass gets a reception and the other gets credit for the remaining receiving yards and the receiving TD.

[Gepetto 1,208]

1 hour ago, Showboat said:

Not sure on all the history of scoring rules, but to me it is similar to YAC - if the QB throws a 2-yard forward pass (even if is behind the line of scrimmage) and the receiver runs 60 yards for a TD it goes down as a passing TD (and a TD reception) and all of the yards between the line of scrimmage and the endzone are credited as both passing yards and receiving yards.  Now, if on that same pass the receiver runs 30 yards and then laterals to another player who runs the remaining 30 yards for a TD, the passing stats are exactly the same, but the receiving yards are split between the two players involved and only the player who actually caught the pass gets a reception and the other gets credit for the remaining receiving yards and the receiving TD.

I agree.

[Ray_T 723]

6 hours ago, nobody said:

In the olden days, Allen wouldn't have been credited for the TD pass to himself.  He would've been credited with a completion to cooper.  Then his "receiving" TD would've been a rushing TD based on the lateral.  

It's a stupid way to score it.  He clearly didn't pass the ball to himself.

I think the old ways were that the person scoring the TD got the 6 points for fantasy purposes.  person throwing the ball got the pass yards.

though in a case like this, technically it wasnt a TD Pass.  the pass was made, caught and then lateralled.   upon receipt of the lateral, thats effectively a run play from the point the person receiving the Lateral obtains possession of the ball.    so it shouldnt be a TD pass, but it should be a completed pass for (however many) yards.   then a lateral and a run in for a TD.   but the TD should count as a rush TD

I have seen a QB get credit for a TD pass to himself.  it was a case where he tossed the ball and it was batted at the line.  QB caught it and ran it in.  but that one was clear cut.

[rotisserieking 56]

14 hours ago, Ray_T said:

I think the old ways were that the person scoring the TD got the 6 points for fantasy purposes.  person throwing the ball got the pass yards.

though in a case like this, technically it wasnt a TD Pass.  the pass was made, caught and then lateralled.   upon receipt of the lateral, thats effectively a run play from the point the person receiving the Lateral obtains possession of the ball.    so it shouldnt be a TD pass, but it should be a completed pass for (however many) yards.   then a lateral and a run in for a TD.   but the TD should count as a rush TD

I have seen a QB get credit for a TD pass to himself.  it was a case where he tossed the ball and it was batted at the line.  QB caught it and ran it in.  but that one was clear cut.

I remember this one vividly because I was playing against Brad Johnson (Vikings) and he got 13 points on the same play (6 pts passing TD, 6 pts receiving TD, 1/2 pt reception, 1/2 pt for 5 yard catch. 

 

[Ray_T 723]

On 12/5/2024 at 7:50 AM, rotisserieking said:

I remember this one vividly because I was playing against Brad Johnson (Vikings) and he got 13 points on the same play (6 pts passing TD, 6 pts receiving TD, 1/2 pt reception, 1/2 pt for 5 yard catch. 

 

nice.  I think there was actually a couple others just like it out there as well.  I seem to think one may have been Peyton Manning though not certain.

[plasma george 62]

21 hours ago, Ray_T said:

nice.  I think there was actually a couple others just like it out there as well.  I seem to think one may have been Peyton Manning though not certain.

I’m thinking Steve McNair 

[Gepetto 1,208]

On 12/6/2024 at 5:30 PM, Ray_T said:

nice.  I think there was actually a couple others just like it out there as well.  I seem to think one may have been Peyton Manning though not certain.

Philip Rivers did it.

[Gepetto 1,208]

Marcus Mariota caught own pass for touchdown. 

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