Score another one for the racists

[Hardcore troubadour]

There goes that pesky constitution again that liberals love to claim they love while simultaneously degrading it and trying to circumvent it. They aren’t real Americans. They just live here.  

[Thornton Melon]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Can you say "Howard University"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_University

Yeah, so? They shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color either if they're federally funded.

[squistion]

1 minute ago, Thornton Melon said:

Yeah, so? They shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color either if they're federally funded.

Howard Univeristy shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color? 

It historically has been a black university and their mission statement is "Mission: Howard's mission is to provide an exceptional education to students with high academic potential, particularly Black students" - 76% of current student body identify as "Black" or "African American" so good luck trying to force them to admit more white students (and I pretty sure that Trump doesn't want to go there).

[Mike Honcho]

Since Clarence Thomas was one of the justices who sided with overturning affirmative action, shouldn't he have to give back his Yale degree, since it's the reason he was admitted. 

[The Real timschochet]

I don’t believe that affirmative action/DEI is racism. I also don’t believe that opposing affirmative action/DEI is racism. Both are legitimate points of view. 

[Engorgeous George]

14 minutes ago, squistion said:

Howard Univeristy shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color? 

It historically has been a black university and their mission statement is "Mission: Howard's mission is to provide an exceptional education to students with high academic potential, particularly Black students" - 76% of current student body identify as "Black" or "African American" so good luck trying to force them to admit more white students (and I pretty sure that Trump doesn't want to go there).

Historically.History can be an interesting marker, a reference point, some guidance, but it is not a prohibition against change.  Historically women could not vote, until they could, Blacks were not allowed to become members at Augusta National, and governments paid bounties for Indian scalps.

[kilroy69]

18 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

They’ve sure been winning a lot lately. In fact, I bet they’re even tired of winning so much!!

 

The number of Black students entering Harvard Law School dropped sharply this fall after last year’s Supreme Court decision banning affirmative action in college admissions, according to enrollment data released on Monday.

Harvard Law enrolled 19 first-year Black students, or 3.4 percent of the class, the lowest number since the 1960s, according to the data from the American Bar Association. Last year, the law school’s first-year class had 43 Black students, according to an analysis by The New York Times.

While changes in data calculation might explain some year-to-year changes, the decline at Harvard was much sharper than at other elite law schools. It was notable not only for its severity but also because of the school’s past role in educating some of the nation’s best-known Black lawyers, including former President Barack Obama, the former first lady Michelle Obama, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and the former Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick.

The Supreme Court decision, and the fact that Harvard College was named in the case, played a role, according to David B. Wilkins, a Harvard law professor who has studied Black representation in the legal profession.

“This obviously has a lot to do with the chilling effect created by that decision,” Mr. Wilkins said on Monday.

“This is the lowest number of Black entering first-year students since 1965,” he added, pointing to numbers compiled by the Center on the Legal Profession at Harvard, where he also serves as faculty director. That year, there were 15 entering Black students. Since 1970, there have generally been 50 to 70 Black students in Harvard Law’s first-year class, he said.
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/16/us/harvard-law-black-students-enrollment-decline.html

I do not believe you anymore. No one can be this dumb. It has to be an act. 

[The Real timschochet]

18 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Worms worrying about a few hundred (if even that) kids not getting into Harvard while millions of inner city blacks are illiterate and can’t do basic math after attending union and democrat controlled public schools. Nice priorities.  

I so rarely agree with @Hardcore troubadour but I find myself doing it twice now in the space of a few days. He is correct here- the key to black inequality in education needs to be solved at the primary levels. By the time college comes around it’s already too late. 

Now, the irony of Hardcore’s argument is that he regularly supports conservative politicians who don’t want to spend a dime trying to help the inner cities address these problems. Democrats haven’t exactly done a great job either but at least they’re willing to focus on it. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

13 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Since Clarence Thomas was one of the justices who sided with overturning affirmative action, shouldn't he have to give back his Yale degree, since it's the reason he was admitted. 

Was he a supreme Court Justice when he went to Yale?

[Strike]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I so rarely agree with @Hardcore troubadour but I find myself doing it twice now in the space of a few days. He is correct here- the key to black inequality in education needs to be solved at the primary levels. By the time college comes around it’s already too late. 

Now, the irony of Hardcore’s argument is that he regularly supports conservative politicians who don’t want to spend a dime trying to help the inner cities address these problems. Democrats haven’t exactly done a great job either but at least they’re willing to focus on it. 

We spend plenty on inner city education.  More money doesn't solve the problems of lack of parental involvement and the epidemic of single motherhood.  Those are the main drivers of this issue.

[Hardcore troubadour]

29 minutes ago, squistion said:

Howard Univeristy shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color? 

It historically has been a black university and their mission statement is "Mission: Howard's mission is to provide an exceptional education to students with high academic potential, particularly Black students" - 76% of current student body identify as "Black" or "African American" so good luck trying to force them to admit more white students (and I pretty sure that Trump doesn't want to go there).

Trump! This idiot has no clue about what Trump did for HBCU’s, including Howard. Stay stupid. It suits you well.  

[The Real timschochet]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

We spend plenty on inner city education.  More money doesn't solve the problems of lack of parental involvement and the epidemic of single motherhood.  Those are the main drivers of this issue.

They’re two of the main drivers. There are others. 
And there are ways we can spend money to try to deal with these issues or at least counter them. The solution isn’t to throw up our hands and stop spending. 

[Mike Honcho]

So what is the score? 

[Strike]

23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

They’re two of the main drivers. There are others. 
And there are ways we can spend money to try to deal with these issues or at least counter them. The solution isn’t to throw up our hands and stop spending. 

Who said stop?  We spend as much, if not more, money in the inner cities as we spend elsewhere.  If you have contrary evidence please post it.  The problems in the inner city are not fiscal in nature but the solutions your side promotes for almost every issue starts with just throwing more money at it.  That's why our country is broke and STILL has all those problems.

[Strike]

18 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

So what is the score? 

According to Worms it's racists 5,000,003 non racists 1

[IGotWorms]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

According to Worms it's racists 5,000,003 non racists 1

Since 2016 yes. Before that the non racists we’re historically doing pretty well since the 60s but now the series is evened up  

[Thornton Melon]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

Howard Univeristy shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color? 

It historically has been a black university and their mission statement is "Mission: Howard's mission is to provide an exceptional education to students with high academic potential, particularly Black students" - 76% of current student body identify as "Black" or "African American" so good luck trying to force them to admit more white students (and I pretty sure that Trump doesn't want to go there).

Where the fock did I say they should be forced to admit more white students, moron?

I said they shouldn't be able to base admission on skin color. If the applicants are predominantly black, which they probably are, then the student body will reflect that.

WTF??? 

[Mike Honcho]

44 minutes ago, Strike said:

According to Worms it's racists 5,000,003 non racists 1

Still closer than a Giants game. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Still closer than a Giants game. 

15-2

[seafoam1]

21 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

They’ve sure been winning a lot lately. In fact, I bet they’re even tired of winning so much!!

 

The number of Black students entering Harvard Law School dropped sharply this fall after last year’s Supreme Court decision banning affirmative action in college admissions, according to enrollment data released on Monday.

Harvard Law enrolled 19 first-year Black students, or 3.4 percent of the class, the lowest number since the 1960s, according to the data from the American Bar Association. Last year, the law school’s first-year class had 43 Black students, according to an analysis by The New York Times.

While changes in data calculation might explain some year-to-year changes, the decline at Harvard was much sharper than at other elite law schools. It was notable not only for its severity but also because of the school’s past role in educating some of the nation’s best-known Black lawyers, including former President Barack Obama, the former first lady Michelle Obama, Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson and the former Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick.

The Supreme Court decision, and the fact that Harvard College was named in the case, played a role, according to David B. Wilkins, a Harvard law professor who has studied Black representation in the legal profession.

“This obviously has a lot to do with the chilling effect created by that decision,” Mr. Wilkins said on Monday.

“This is the lowest number of Black entering first-year students since 1965,” he added, pointing to numbers compiled by the Center on the Legal Profession at Harvard, where he also serves as faculty director. That year, there were 15 entering Black students. Since 1970, there have generally been 50 to 70 Black students in Harvard Law’s first-year class, he said.
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/16/us/harvard-law-black-students-enrollment-declinehhtml

 Wow. Imagine being worried about stupid violent kids raised to hate white people. What a life you lead.

[Nomad99]

3 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

 Democrats haven’t exactly done a great job either but at least they’re willing to focus on it. 

I shudder to think how bad it would be with any more of their "focus".

[Nomad99]

For the sake of argument.....let's say the site was going to ban Worms for posting his ludicrous garbage. Would he rather a black person make the decision or the most qualified person make the decision.

[seafoam1]

6 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

For the sake of argument.....let's say the site was going to ban Worms for posting his ludicrous garbage. Would he rather a black person make the decision or the most qualified person make the decision.

Wormy would rather have an unskilled black person represent him at trial if he gets wrongly accused of rape rather than a skilled white lawyer who is top of their profession.

He's the one saying race is more important than merit. 

[TBayXXXVII]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I so rarely agree with @Hardcore troubadour but I find myself doing it twice now in the space of a few days. He is correct here- the key to black inequality in education needs to be solved at the primary levels. By the time college comes around it’s already too late. 

Now, the irony of Hardcore’s argument is that he regularly supports conservative politicians who don’t want to spend a dime trying to help the inner cities address these problems. Democrats haven’t exactly done a great job either but at least they’re willing to focus on it. 

As for your first paragraph, most sane people agree with this.

 

As for your second, it's because money isn't the problem, its culture.

[squistion]

3 hours ago, Thornton Melon said:

Where the fock did I say they should be forced to admit more white students ?

I said they shouldn't be able to base admission on skin color. If the applicants are predominantly black, which they probably are, then the student body will reflect that.

WTF??? 

You're exact words:

Quote

They shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color either if they're federally funded.

If they shouldn't allowed to admit based on skin color then they are being forced to admit more white students, no?

[jbycho]

5 minutes ago, squistion said:

You're exact words:

If they shouldn't allowed to admit based on skin color then they are being forced to admit more white students, no?

No. They admit based on merit. Or at least they should.  Do you know what that word means?

[Voltaire]

5 hours ago, squistion said:

Howard Univeristy shouldn't be allowed to admit based on skin color? 

It historically has been a black university and their mission statement is "Mission: Howard's mission is to provide an exceptional education to students with high academic potential, particularly Black students" - 76% of current student body identify as "Black" or "African American" so good luck trying to force them to admit more white students (and I pretty sure that Trump doesn't want to go there).

 

[Voltaire]

1 hour ago, Nomad99 said:

For the sake of argument.....let's say the site was going to ban Worms for posting his ludicrous garbage. Would he rather a black person make the decision or the most qualified person make the decision.

 

[Voltaire]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I so rarely agree with @Hardcore troubadour but I find myself doing it twice now in the space of a few days. He is correct here- the key to black inequality in education needs to be solved at the primary levels. By the time college comes around it’s already too late. 

Now, the irony of Hardcore’s argument is that he regularly supports conservative politicians who don’t want to spend a dime trying to help the inner cities address these problems. Democrats haven’t exactly done a great job either but at least they’re willing to focus on it. 

 

The real solution  > Dumb sh*t you support

Also this is rather personal as my own youngest daughter is not attending my former school but instead a private school near where I work now using this Florida school choice scholarship: https://www.stepupforstudents.org/

[jbycho]

17 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

 

The real solution  > Dumb sh*t you support

Also this is rather personal as my own youngest daughter is not attending my former school but instead a private school near where I work now using this Florida school choice scholarship: https://www.stepupforstudents.org/

If your kid isn't black or illegal or transexual, let's not pretend she should count here in liberal USA. 

[Maximum Overkill]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Since 2016 yes. Before that the non racists we’re historically doing pretty well since the 60s but now the series is evened up  

DEI STUDENTS  

[seafoam1]

7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

DEI STUDENTS  

It's always the special need liberals who want the lame in this country to be front and center. 

[jerryskids]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

You're exact words:

If they shouldn't allowed to admit based on skin color then they are being forced to admit more white students, no?

It appears you didn't read the second line of his post.

[shadrap]

1 hour ago, squistion said:

You're exact words:

If they shouldn't allowed to admit based on skin color then they are being forced to admit more white students, no?

your grasp of the english language is severely lacking.  Actually maybe it's your comprehension of it.   

[Thornton Melon]

4 hours ago, squistion said:

You're exact words:

If they shouldn't allowed to admit based on skin color then they are being forced to admit more white students, no?

So, apparently you feel black students are less intelligent than white students, because you know, "your exact words":

Quote

If they shouldn't allowed to admit based on skin color then they are being forced to admit more white students, no?

 

[squistion]

1 minute ago, Thornton Melon said:

So, apparently you feel black students are less intelligent than white students, because you know, "your exact words":

No, Straw Man, I don't feel that. 

[jbycho]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

No, Straw Man, I don't feel that. 

Fock off with your "straw man" go to. 

Jeez. 

[squistion]

6 minutes ago, jbycho said:

Fock off with your "straw man" go to. 

Jeez. 

Sadly, you don't understand what a Straw Man argument is, as you have proven by your responses to the term. 

[jbycho]

8 hours ago, squistion said:

Sadly, you don't understand what a Straw Man argument is, as you have proven by your responses to the term. 

Pity bump. 

[IGotWorms]

6 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

For the sake of argument.....let's say the site was going to ban Worms for posting his ludicrous garbage. Would he rather a black person make the decision or the most qualified person make the decision.

I’d rather your mom made it, so I could fock it out of her