The state of America as Trump assumes Power

[seafoam1]

33 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

You don't believe in data?  Have your grocery prices gone down?

Wow. You seem.troubled. Are you in need dude? Hate to see you suffer. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

President Trump signs EO debanking illegal aliens. I voted for this. 

[Maximum Overkill]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

President Trump signs EO debanking illegal aliens. I voted for this. 

This is huge 

[5-Points]

21 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

This is a lie.

You can't man up and admit you were wrong. 

Because I'm not wrong. I am paying less for groceries these days. I'm sorry you’re too stoopid to figure out how to shave a few bucks off your grocery bill. But don't assume everyone else is as dumb as are you. 

[thegeneral]

 

[Hardcore troubadour]

Getting my car inspected. Some third world invader was being rude and talking loudly on his phone. I told him to get quiet. He complied. Felt good. It’s always them. 

[The Psychic Observer]

1 hour ago, 5-Points said:

Because I'm not wrong. I am paying less for groceries these days. I'm sorry you’re too stoopid to figure out how to shave a few bucks off your grocery bill. But don't assume everyone else is as dumb as are you. 

Goalposts moved successfully.  Thank you for admitting that prices haven't dropped but rather you adjusted your groceries to save a few bucks.  Swapping beef for beans will do that.

 

On 1/26/2025 at 3:49 PM, 5-Points said:

Hide and watch. When energy prices come down and prices begin to drop, I'll expect you to man up and admit you were wrong. 

If grocery prices aren't lower at this time next year, I'll do the same. 

Seeing that energy prices are now higher and prices did not drop, Are you able to man up and admit you were wrong?

[thegeneral]

Great thanks to Trump for providing people the opportunity to learn how to use coupons and buy the day old breads! What can’t this guy do!!

[Maximum Overkill]

Groceries have gone down here a little but not by much. It hasn't changed much since Covid 

Wholesalers and retailers haven't re-adjusted after Covid. This is less political and more institutional. Blame the system 

Despite what libtards like @The Psychic Observer choose to believe. 

[JuneJuly]

14 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

When someone says the price went down normal people think the price went down

It makes total sense for a tiny brain not being able to think in today's dollars.  For you groceries are always going up.  

You go all cash in your 401k too.

[Sean Mooney]

The price of some things have gone up and some things have gone down.

But I do think it is a more complicated issue than just "Trump did it." The tariffs and the price of oil/gas have caused some of it...but also- retailers are not looking to drop prices on certain things. 

[The Psychic Observer]

4 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

It makes total sense for a tiny brain not being able to think in today's dollars.  For you groceries are always going up.  

You go all cash in your 401k too.

Grocery prices are not always going up.  This is a lie.  For 2 years (2016-2017) grocery prices were lowered.  2009 as well saw a grocery price decrease.  There is a food price index published by the BLS that tracks grocery prices.  You should look into it.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_06162016.htm

@5-Points predicted that energy prices and grocery prices would decrease.  He was wrong.  The only question remaining is is he man enough to admit he was wrong?

[JuneJuly]

14 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Grocery prices are not always going up.  This is a lie.  For 2 years (2016-2017) grocery prices were lowered.  2009 as well saw a grocery price decrease.  There is a food price index published by the BLS that tracks grocery prices.  You should look into it.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_06162016.htm

@5-Points predicted that energy prices and grocery prices would decrease.  He was wrong.  The only question remaining is is he man enough to admit he was wrong?

Oh, god taking it literally now. 

Well, that's OK if you're ready to admit grocery prices have gone down under Trump. 

"If you are looking at month-over-month data, grocery prices fluctuate even more frequently. For instance, the food at home index has seen several negative monthly prints, such as during isolated dips across 2025 and 2026."

Dummy walks right into CHECKMATE

 

[The Psychic Observer]

9 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

Oh, god taking it literally now. 

Well, that's OK if you're ready to admit grocery prices have gone down under Trump. 

"If you are looking at month-over-month data, grocery prices fluctuate even more frequently. For instance, the food at home index has seen several negative monthly prints, such as during isolated dips across 2025 and 2026."

Dummy walks right into CHECKMATE

 

When it comes to financial numbers they are quite literal.  Grocery prices decreased during the first year of Trump term as stated earlier, 2016-2017 decrease.  They also decreased for 3 out of 12 months in 2023 and 2024 despite being higher overall for each year.  Same in 2025.  This is why we look at the annual trend.  More accurate.  2025 ended higher.  2026 is trending much higher.  Thank you for looking at the data and agreeing that I am correct and @5-Points is incorrect.  The only question remaining is is he man enough to admit he was wrong?

[JuneJuly]

3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

When it comes to financial numbers they are quite literal.  Grocery prices decreased during the first year of Trump term as stated earlier, 2016-2017 decrease.  They also decreased for 3 out of 12 months in 2023 and 2024 despite being higher overall for each year.  Same in 2025.  This is why we look at the annual trend.  More accurate.  2025 ended higher.  2026 is trending much higher.  Thank you for looking at the data and agreeing that I am correct and @5-Points is incorrect.  The only question remaining is is he man enough to admit he was wrong?

Thats why we look at annual trends incuding inflation. Which the CPI is used for!

Hey Tiny, games over. You lost your little semantics game you like to play.  Your Tiny brain is too small, entirely predictable.  

[The Psychic Observer]

29 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

Thats why we look at annual trends incuding inflation. Which the CPI is used for!

Hey Tiny, games over. You lost your little semantics game you like to play.  Your Tiny brain is too small, entirely predictable.  

lost?  playing a game?  I'm not playing a game.  I'm simply discussing data.

On 1/26/25 @5-Points stated "If grocery prices aren't lower at this time next year, I'll do the same.* "

The Food at Home index in January 2025 was 310.817.  In January 2026 it was 317.589.  That is an increase.  Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SAF11

Am I wrong?

 

*Admit being wrong

[Maximum Overkill]

23 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

lost?  playing a game?  I'm not playing a game.  I'm simply discussing data.

On 1/26/25 @5-Points stated "If grocery prices aren't lower at this time next year, I'll do the same.* "

The Food at Home index in January 2025 was 310.817.  In January 2026 it was 317.589.  That is an increase.  Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SAF11

Am I wrong?

 

*Admit being wrong

Looks like normal progression according to your little chart. In fact slower than other years. 

[The Psychic Observer]

26 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Looks like normal progression according to your little chart. In fact slower than other years. 

Thank you for supporting my position that prices have increased.

[JuneJuly]

54 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

lost?  playing a game?  I'm not playing a game.  I'm simply discussing data.

On 1/26/25 @5-Points stated "If grocery prices aren't lower at this time next year, I'll do the same.* "

The Food at Home index in January 2025 was 310.817.  In January 2026 it was 317.589.  That is an increase.  Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SAF11

Am I wrong?

 

*Admit being wrong

Uses Tiny Brain symantics then demands people to admit being wrong.

Im not playing a game. 

[JuneJuly]

32 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Looks like normal progression according to your little chart. In fact slower than other years. 

Right, you're normal.  Aka, not a Tiny Brain.  Everyone but Tiny knows what someone means when they say prices are lower. 

I mean why the fok would anyone ignore inflation when comparing prices over time, year over year. Its just nonsensical.   

Then , then he has the balls to use a measure of inflation as his data.  It's Metal Helmet stupid.  

[The Psychic Observer]

3 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

Uses Tiny Brain symantics then demands people to admit being wrong.

Im not playing a game. 

You are playing a game.  First you tried to say that since the Grocery Index was lowerer than overall CPI that it should count as a decrease.  Then you tried to say that since it decreased for 2 months of the year of which there was an annual increase that it also decreased.  What will your next game be while avoiding the truth that Grocery prices have increased?

[JuneJuly]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

You are playing a game.  First you tried to say that since the Grocery Index was lowerer than overall CPI that it should count as a decrease.  Then you tried to say that since it decreased for 2 months of the year of which there was an annual increase that it also decreased.  What will your next game be while avoiding the truth that Grocery prices have increased?

Thanks for the Tiny Brain summary. 

[Maximum Overkill]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

You are playing a game.  First you tried to say that since the Grocery Index was lowerer than overall CPI that it should count as a decrease.  Then you tried to say that since it decreased for 2 months of the year of which there was an annual increase that it also decreased.  What will your next game be while avoiding the truth that Grocery prices have increased?

Looks like it rose faster under Biden 

That chart isn't helping your cause. 

[The Psychic Observer]

Just now, JuneJuly said:

Thanks for the Tiny Brain summary. 

I accept your surrender even though a real man would admit he was wrong and apologize.

[The Psychic Observer]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Looks like it rose faster under Biden 

That chart isn't helping your cause. 

It did rise faster under Biden which is not my cause.  It also rose under Trump which @5-Points said wouldn't happen but it did.

[JuneJuly]

1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said:

I accept your surrender even though a real man would admit he was wrong and apologize.

 

1 hour ago, JuneJuly said:

You already lost.  

 

[JuneJuly]

On 4/4/2025 at 7:31 AM, The Psychic Observer said:

Dow is down 10% to 39.6k.

60% chance of recession.  Worst economy of the G6.

Update?

[The Psychic Observer]

7 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

Update?

Market rebounded huge.  I was wrong.

See how easy that is?

[JuneJuly]

6 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

It did rise faster under Biden which is not my cause.  It also rose under Trump which @5-Points said wouldn't happen but it did.

Oh it is your cause. Just look at the thread title and your very first post.

But it makes perfect sense Tiny Brain wants to move the goal posts when talking about grocery prices because so far Trump has beaten Biden by a healthy margin.  Half of Biden's term it outpaced inflation by quite a bit.    

• 2021: 3.5% increase.
• 2022: 11.4% increase.
• 2023: 5.0% increase.
• 2024: 2.4% increase.
• 2025: 2.3% increase.

 

[JuneJuly]

6 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Market rebounded huge.  I was wrong.

See how easy that is?

Its too bad you missed out because you went 100% cash in your 401k. 

[The Psychic Observer]

2 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

Oh it is your cause. Just look at the thread title and your very first post.

But it makes perfect sense Tiny Brain wants to move the goal posts when talking about grocery prices because so far Trump has beaten Biden by a healthy margin.  Half of Biden's term it outpaced inflation by quite a bit.    

• 2021: 3.5% increase.
• 2022: 11.4% increase.
• 2023: 5.0% increase.
• 2024: 2.4% increase.
• 2025: 2.3% increase.

 

I looked at the title and first post and didn't see where I mentioned Biden.  Can you show me?

[Maximum Overkill]

29 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

It did rise faster under Biden which is not my cause.  It also rose under Trump which @5-Points said wouldn't happen but it did.

Agree, but let's not pretend that this is something new. The chart shows a natural progression. You can't blame Trump 

[JuneJuly]

8 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

I looked at the title and first post and didn't see where I mentioned Biden.  Can you show me?

Yeah your entire first post only has to do with the "state of America" on January 17th before "Trump puts his footprint" on it. 

Has nothing to do with comparing him to Biden though is going to be your next Tiny Brain Semantics Game.   

[The Psychic Observer]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Agree, but let's not pretend that this is something new. The chart shows a natural progression. You can't blame Trump 

We can have that debate as to what led to the price increases.  One might argue that it is tariff related, war related, both of which Trump is responsible for.

But we can't have that debate until we first agree that prices have increased.  I'm glad you agree.  Others have yet to agree.

[Maximum Overkill]

Just now, The Psychic Observer said:

We can have that debate as to what led to the price increases.  One might argue that it is tariff related, war related, both of which Trump is responsible for.

But we can't have that debate until we first agree that prices have increased.  I'm glad you agree.  Others have yet to agree.

What led to price increases under every other President?? It went up every single year 

How far should we go back? George Washington? 

[seafoam1]

19 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

What led to price increases under every other President?? It went up every single year 

How far should we go back? George Washington? 

yes. and then analyze it all for him. chop chop. 

[JuneJuly]

@The Psychic Observer

You should just change the thread title to "GutterBoy's Semantics Game Thread cuz TDS".

Because you know it's a game. Because all you have is "Admit you’re wrong!!!!"

But you know what isn't a game?  Reacting in real life because Trump!  You went 100% cash in your 401k.  You altered the course of your life because orange man bad.   

I can just imagine all the other tiny brain choices. 

You're a mess. 

 

[dogcows]

9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Getting my car inspected. Some third world invader was being rude and talking loudly on his phone. I told him to get quiet. He complied. Felt good. It’s always them. 

Another pointless racist post. Did your crappy car fail the inspection? Oh wait…. Nobody cares.

[5-Points]

23 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Goalposts moved successfully.  Thank you for admitting that prices haven't dropped but rather you adjusted your groceries to save a few bucks.  Swapping beef for beans will do that.

 

Seeing that energy prices are now higher and prices did not drop, Are you able to man up and admit you were wrong?

 

22 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Grocery prices are not always going up.  This is a lie.  For 2 years (2016-2017) grocery prices were lowered.  2009 as well saw a grocery price decrease.  There is a food price index published by the BLS that tracks grocery prices.  You should look into it.

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_06162016.htm

@5-Points predicted that energy prices and grocery prices would decrease.  He was wrong.  The only question remaining is is he man enough to admit he was wrong?

 

22 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

When it comes to financial numbers they are quite literal.  Grocery prices decreased during the first year of Trump term as stated earlier, 2016-2017 decrease.  They also decreased for 3 out of 12 months in 2023 and 2024 despite being higher overall for each year.  Same in 2025.  This is why we look at the annual trend.  More accurate.  2025 ended higher.  2026 is trending much higher.  Thank you for looking at the data and agreeing that I am correct and @5-Points is incorrect.  The only question remaining is is he man enough to admit he was wrong?

 

21 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

lost?  playing a game?  I'm not playing a game.  I'm simply discussing data.

On 1/26/25 @5-Points stated "If grocery prices aren't lower at this time next year, I'll do the same.* "

The Food at Home index in January 2025 was 310.817.  In January 2026 it was 317.589.  That is an increase.  Source: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUSR0000SAF11

Am I wrong?

 

*Admit being wrong

 

20 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said:

It did rise faster under Biden which is not my cause.  It also rose under Trump which @5-Points said wouldn't happen but it did.

Holy sh!t, someone is starved for my attention. You must be one of those people who calls someone and when they don't answer, you immediately call right back instead of leaving a vm or sending a text. ITSATIP, nobody likes you. 

First of all, there is no way you could possibly know how much I spent on groceries in January of '25 vs January of '26. And there is no way I could prove it to you, we're I so inclined, which I am not. 

There are many ways to reduce one's grocery bill. I have not changed what I buy, I've changed the way I shop. In fact, I've been able to save so much money in other areas that I am spending more on beef these days. Costco's Wagyu rib eyes and tri-tip on the Traeger are focking delicious!

Also, look at a calendar, it isn't January, it's June. Gas prices were lower in January before Iran decided to intervene in the interim. 

I am spending less on groceries monthly these days than I did in January of '25. Deal with it.