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10 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

ive never understood the love for ZZ top.  They always seemed so generic

 

 

I've never loved them, but their biggest hits are not really representative of their output. They're a band you can put on in the background and enjoy. To get a real taste of them you should listen to complete albums.

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2 hours ago, Fnord said:

I've never loved them, but their biggest hits are not really representative of their output. They're a band you can put on in the background and enjoy. To get a real taste of them you should listen to complete albums.

Problem is that the stuff I have heard is so lame I’d turn it off before sitting thru a whole album 

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I only like the first 2-3 albums- that’s the raw blues that I’m really into. Those albums are awesome. After that I agree with you. 

I would say they were a hard rock/blues rock band, but not raw blues.

A Google search says:

ZZ Top's music is a mix of blues, boogie rock, hard rock, Southern rock, and Texas blues. 

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18 minutes ago, squistion said:

I would say they were a hard rock/blues rock band, but not raw blues.

A Google search says:

ZZ Top's music is a mix of blues, boogie rock, hard rock, Southern rock, and Texas blues. 

The first two albums are straight up blues, mostly raw. There’s not a non-blues song on there. 

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The first two albums are straight up blues, mostly raw. There’s not a non-blues song on there. 

No they aren't. Please. I don't remember anyone saying when the first three ZZ Top albums came out that they were "straight up blues" (and how old were you?). The label was given at that time was "hard rock" and in retrospect would be called "blues rock" today, but not straight up blues.

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42 minutes ago, squistion said:

No they aren't. Please. I don't remember anyone saying when the first three ZZ Top albums came out that they were "straight up blues" (and how old were you?). The label was given at that time was "hard rock" and in retrospect would be called "blues rock" today, but not straight up blues.

Their first seven albums are awesome.

I call it blues-based but not "straight up" blues.

All rock is based in blues. 

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

No they aren't. Please. I don't remember anyone saying when the first three ZZ Top albums came out that they were "straight up blues" (and how old were you?). The label was given at that time was "hard rock" and in retrospect would be called "blues rock" today, but not straight up blues.

OK. Not sure why you’re arguing this but please name a song from the first two albums that isn’t a blues song. 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK. Not sure why you’re arguing this but please name a song from the first two albums that isn’t a blues song. 

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The songs on Tres Hombres, Fandango, Tejas, Deguello and El Loco aren't much different than these.

And it doesn't get much bluesier than Blue Jean Blues.

 

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9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

OK. Not sure why you’re arguing this but please name a song from the first two albums that isn’t a blues song. 

All right.

 

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8 minutes ago, Death said:

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The songs on Tres Hombres, Fandango, Tejas, Deguello and El Loco aren't much different than these.

And it doesn't get much bluesier than Blue Jean Blues.

 

Those are all blues songs. And I love them all, especially “Just God Paid”

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6 minutes ago, squistion said:

All right.

 

Forgot about that tune, thanks! Just added it to my blues playlist. And it absolutely would fit on any blues album of the time. You know why ZZ Top wasn’t called blues at the time? Because to the record execs back then, blues meant black people. If a white guy did it, it had to be hard rock. That’s the only reason. 

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Those are all blues songs. And I love them all, especially “Just God Paid”

All of the albums through El Loco have similar songs, only a bit more polished from a production standpoint.

"Tush" is just a distortion of the usual "I'm a Man" blues riff.

Have you listened to "Fandango?"

The whole first half of the album is blistering blues.

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1 minute ago, Death said:

All of the albums through El Loco have similar songs, only a bit more polished from a production standpoint.

"Tush" is just a distortion of the usual "I'm a Man" blues riff.

Have you listened to "Fandango?"

The whole first half of the album is blistering blues.

Yeah. I dig it but it’s not as raw as the first three. I love that early sound, it’s a lot like Free which I also posted earlier. 
 

I’m always looking for bands that sound like early ZZ Top. Black Keys as of late. Got any for me to listen to? Post them please. 

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2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah. I dig it but it’s not as raw as the first three. I love that early sound, it’s a lot like Free which I also posted earlier. 
 

I’m always looking for bands that sound like early ZZ Top. Black Keys as of late. Got any for me to listen to? Post them please. 

Centromatic. It's raw but a bit more grungy, and the drummer comes as closest to John Bonham this side of Dave Grohl.

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6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah. I dig it but it’s not as raw as the first three. I love that early sound, it’s a lot like Free which I also posted earlier. 
 

I’m always looking for bands that sound like early ZZ Top. Black Keys as of late. Got any for me to listen to? Post them please. 

I'll send you a link to my chit on Spotify.

LOL.

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16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah. I dig it but it’s not as raw as the first three. I love that early sound, it’s a lot like Free which I also posted earlier. 
 

I’m always looking for bands that sound like early ZZ Top. Black Keys as of late. Got any for me to listen to? Post them please. 

Point Blank might fit the bill. A Texas band managed by ZZ Top's producer, Bill Ham.

From 1974

 

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5 minutes ago, squistion said:

Point Blank might fit the bill. A Texas band managed by ZZ Top's producer, Bill Ham.

From 1974

 

I've never listened to Point Blank. This song sounds pretty good.

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I really like that Fire and Water song. I also liked Point Blank as well. The entire time I was listening to Point Blank, I was trying to recall a song it reminded me of. It finally came to me at the end. It was a Lou Reed song doing a Bob Dylan cover, Foot of Pride. Might be more dialed into the sound you were talking about. A good jam either way. Dylan's 30th Anniversary concert is so good imo.

 

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10 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Ooh I really like this 

Thanks! Release date was 1976 not 1974. I hoped that I could find an extended live version of this but the two concert peformances on YouTube are the same length as the studio version.

I always felt that Arista should have released this on single, but they didn't...maybe the thinking was they felt it was not that representative of the rest of the first Point Blank album (which was more like the later ZZ Top and "Southern Rock" like The Outlaws).

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Savoy Brown - Made Up My Mind (1969)

Originally known as "The Savoy Brown Blues Band" this was the best lineup (which was ever changing) of this group with Chris Youlden on vocals along with three of the guys who later became Foghat.

Lonesome Dave on lead guitar (not Kim Simmonds). Bob Hall: Piano 

 

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27 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well that’s the price you pay when you sell your soul to the devil. 

 Johnson, Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Kobain, Whinehous, and Brian Jones. Hard livings.

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17 hours ago, Rabbit Range said:

Always been a fan of Morphine. I consider them blues with a unique sound.

 

"The band used an idiosyncratic set of instruments and combined blues and jazz elements with more traditional rock arrangements, which gave it an unusual and original sound."

 

What a fantastic and underappreciated band. In '99 I had tickets for their show that I was super excited to attend. About a month before, Mark Sandman died. I still have the tickets. Love their music.

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Fanny Adams was an Aussie band formed by Vince Melouney, who was the original lead guitarist for The Bee Gees after he left the Gibb Bros.

Fanny Adams - Ain't No Loving Left (1971)

 

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