Zelensky and Ukraine Thread - Ukrainian Drone Attacks Moscow Oil Refinery

[jbycho]

31 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

He seems to be in no hurry for a do-over. Too busy getting support from Europe and the UK at the moment

https://x.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1895900978525729069

NEW:

Ukrainian President Zelensky just met with King Charles and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer—who made it crystal clear that the UK stands fully with Ukraine.

This is leadership. You stand with democracy. You stand with those under attack. Not the aggressors.

Awesome. Let UK step in and deal with Russia on the part of Ukraine instead of the US. 

This is what I voted for. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

I thought Trump was a racist white supremacist? Ukraine might be the whitest place on earth. 

[seafoam1]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I thought Trump was a racist white supremacist? Ukraine might be the whitest place on earth. 

But they are different a kind of whites... or.....something..... 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

The liberal America Haters rooting against America.  I mean, c'mon. This is nothing new for them.  No one should be surprised that American Liberals hate America.

[seafoam1]

6 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The liberal America Haters rooting against America.  I mean, c'mon. This is nothing new for them.  No one should be surprised that American Liberals hate America.

It's been standard protocol for liberals for how many years now? At least before I was born.

[The Real timschochet]

Vance is stalked by protestors on his skiing trip: “Go ski in Russia, traitor!” 

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-zelensky-ukraine-news-03-01-25/index.html

I don’t think the American people like what happened very much. I have a feeling that Zelensky’s popularity here will go up, and Trump’s will go down. Which is only right. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Vance is stalked by protestors on his skiing trip: “Go ski in Russia, traitor!” 

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-zelensky-ukraine-news-03-01-25/index.html

I don’t think the American people like what happened very much. I have a feeling that Zelensky’s popularity here will go up, and Trump’s will go down. Which is only right. 

Because a couple of crazy, unhinged leftists stalked him you extrapolate that to the entirety of the American People?

Back in the old days we arrested stalkers and called them crazy.  Here you are, defending the stalkers. 

Also, don't think we don't know that the plan is for a few crazy far leftists to show up and pull a stunt like this and for sheep like you to see that and react EXACTLY like you did.  You fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And the American People voted Trump into office for exactly this reason.  You don't speak for the American People.  You lost bigly last election.  the American People spoke to you and told you to STFU.

[Hardcore troubadour]

If I saw a guy holding a sign calling Vance a traitor I’d drop him on the spot. And be proud of it. 

[The Real timschochet]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Because a couple of crazy, unhinged leftists stalked him you extrapolate that to the entirety of the American People?

Back in the old days we arrested stalkers and called them crazy.  Here you are, defending the stalkers. 

Also, don't think we don't know that the plan is for a few crazy far leftists to show up and pull a stunt like this and for sheep like you to see that and react EXACTLY like you did.  You fell for it hook, line and sinker.

And the American People voted Trump into office for exactly this reason.  You don't speak for the American People.  You lost bigly last election.  the American People spoke to you and told you to STFU.

We’ll see, I think major buyers remorse is settling in. 

[The Real timschochet]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

If I saw a guy holding a sign calling Vance a traitor I’d drop him on the spot. And be proud of it. 

OK tough guy

[The Real timschochet]

And Vance IS a traitor. So is Trump. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

OK tough guy

That’s what people say.  And I’ll accept  that duty. 

[Maximum Overkill]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

We’ll see, I think major buyers remorse is settling in.

Says the Biden Voter? This is EXACTLY what we signed up for, stop crying about everything. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

And Vance IS a traitor. So is Trump. 

He’s a combat veteran. You’re a disgusting pile of mush. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

We’ll see, I think major buyers remorse is settling in. 

Absolutely not.  That's you making things up to make yourself feel better but it's not based in any form of reality.

Again, the American People spoke to you and unequivocally told you they are done with the leftist nonsense.  You lost.  have some grace and dignity and stop being a hysterical teenage girl.

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And Vance IS a traitor. So is Trump. 

Another word that has now lost all meaning.  You guys just want to keep rewriting words to mean "everyone I disagree with".  GTFO.

[Horseman]

When Tim preferences anything with "I think" you know it's going to be hot garbage.  

[seafoam1]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

And Vance IS a traitor. So is Trump. 

Timmy pays illegals 50 cents an hour to clean up human crap in his dad's abandoned strip mall and he calls a combat veteran who is VP of the US a traitor. 

[The Real timschochet]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Absolutely not.  That's you making things up to make yourself feel better but it's not based in any form of reality.

Again, the American People spoke to you and unequivocally told you they are done with the leftist nonsense.  You lost.  have some grace and dignity and stop being a hysterical teenage girl.

It absolutely is based on reality: 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2025/02/28/donald-trump-approval-ratings-what-the-latest-polls-say/80669210007/

Even the most favorable polls have Trump’s approval rating dropping like a stone. The public voted for him to lower prices, not to screw up the federal government and abandon Ukraine. It may be what YOU wanted but most Americans aren’t MAGA. 
And I’m neither whiny nor hysterical. Just telling you how it is. Things aren’t going well. Trump is an incompetent fool just as he was before and people are starting to realize it. 

[The Real timschochet]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Timmy pays illegals 50 cents an hour to clean up human crap in his dad's abandoned strip mall and he calls a combat veteran who is VP of the US a traitor. 

I did, and I stand by it. He is abandoning our friends and betraying 80 years of American policy that protected the free world, 

[seafoam1]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I did, and I stand by it. He is abandoning our friends and betraying 80 years of American policy that protected the free world, 

He's winning. 

And so am I because of it. 

You however are losing because you are a scourge on America. You are not needed here in the least. You only bring others down. And nothing else. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It absolutely is based on reality: 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2025/02/28/donald-trump-approval-ratings-what-the-latest-polls-say/80669210007/

Even the most favorable polls have Trump’s approval rating dropping like a stone. The public voted for him to lower prices, not to screw up the federal government and abandon Ukraine. It may be what YOU wanted but most Americans aren’t MAGA. 
And I’m neither whiny nor hysterical. Just telling you how it is. Things aren’t going well. Trump is an incompetent fool just as he was before and people are starting to realize it. 

Sorry, Tim, that's simply not true.  We voted Trump in, warts and all, mostly based on the economy and federal government.

Again, that's you making things up to make yourself feel better.  I suggest you read literature from sources other than Pravda and listening to Tokyo Rose or Axis Sally.  OF COURSE your side is going to say Trump is unpopular.  You just got your @ss kicked in the election where the American People told you to STFU, sit at the back of the bus and take it like an adult.

This is part and parcel with Trump.  This is EVERYTHING the American People voted for.  Again, you don't speak for the American People because you lost and your side literally hates America.

[The Real timschochet]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sorry, Tim, that's simply not true.  We voted Trump in, warts and all, mostly based on the economy and federal government.

Again, that's you making things up to make yourself feel better.  I suggest you read literature from sources other than Pravda and listening to Tokyo Rose or Axis Sally.  OF COURSE your side is going to say Trump is unpopular.  You just got your @ss kicked in the election where the American People told you to STFU, sit at the back of the bus and take like an adult.

I give you kudos for the Tokyo Rose reference. 
Did you know she was American? It’s an interesting story I recently read a graphic novel about her life. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I give you kudos for the Tokyo Rose reference. 
Did you know she was American? It’s an interesting story I recently read a graphic novel about her life. 

Axis Sally was the American, not Tokyo Rose since Tokyo Rose was a number of women under that moniker.

[The Real timschochet]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Axis Sally was the American, not Tokyo Rose.

I know nothing about Sally. But Tokyo Rose was American: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iva_Toguri_D'Aquino

[Hardcore troubadour]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I give you kudos for the Tokyo Rose reference. 
Did you know she was American? It’s an interesting story I recently read a graphic novel about her life. 

You read a comic book? Very impressed. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I know nothing about Sally. But Tokyo Rose was American: 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iva_Toguri_D'Aquino

https://www.google.com/search?q=Was+tokyo+rose+a+single+person&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS935US935&oq=Was+tokyo+rose+a+single+person&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyCQgAEEUYORigATIHCAEQIRiPAjIHCAIQIRiPAtIBCDU0NTVqMGo3qAIIsAIB8QUaYjH5Am44ZA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[The Real timschochet]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You read a comic book? Very impressed. 

I read em all the time. It’s actually the golden age of graphic novels currently. It’s not the superhero stuff of our youths. It’s really good stuff to be honest. 

[Gepetto]

3 hours ago, squistion said:

From former US national security advisor John Bolton:

https://x.com/AmbJohnBolton/status/1895843081020494250 (CNN video clip at link)

Yesterday was a disaster for American national security. Trump has divorced himself from the foundations of American foreign policy. Putin isn't intimidated by the U.S.. He's not coming to the negotiating table because he doesn't have to, Trump is giving him everything he wants.

Who created and kept going U.S. foreign policy? It wasn't US voters.

[Gepetto]

24 min ago

UK signs agreement to accelerate $2.8 billion of loans to Ukraine

From CNN’s Mariya Knight and Mitchell McCluskey

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer signed an agreement on Saturday to accelerate $2.8 billion (2.26 billion pounds) worth of loans to Ukraine.

The loan will be paid off by revenues from frozen sovereign Russian assets, the UK’s Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves said. The agreement is part of the UK’s “unwavering and ongoing support for Ukrainian people,” Reeves said.

Zelensky said the loan will go “toward the production of weapons in Ukraine.”

“This is the fair way: the one who started the war should pay,” Zelensky said in a Telegram post Saturday, referring to the use of Russian assets. He added that “the loan will strengthen our defense capabilities.”

Ukraine’s Minister of Finance Serhiy Marchenko, who joined the meeting remotely via video link, said Ukraine was “so grateful” for the “very necessary” agreement.

The loans are in addition to the UK’s ongoing funding of about $3.7 billion (3 billion pounds) per year to Ukraine, Reeves said.

Reeves added that she was struck by the “cross-party support” for the agreement while bringing it through Parliament.

“This money is about helping to secure the territorial integrity of Ukraine,” Reeves said, adding that the funds also reinforce “the security and posterity of all of Europe.”

More on Zelensky and Starmer’s meeting: Zelensky called his meeting with Starmer “significant and warm” and said they spoke about “reliable security guarantees.”

“We discussed the challenges currently facing Ukraine and all of Europe, coordination with partners, specific steps to strengthen Ukraine’s position, and the pursuit of a just peace to end the war, along with reliable security guarantees,” Zelensky wrote on Telegram.

Zelensky said Starmer offered “principled words of support” and Ukraine is “happy to have such strategic partners and share the same vision for a secure future for all.”

[Horseman]

1 minute ago, Gepetto said:

24 min ago

UK signs agreement to accelerate $2.8 billion of loans to Ukraine

From CNN’s Mariya Knight and Mitchell McCluskey

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer signed an agreement on Saturday to accelerate $2.8 billion (2.26 billion pounds) worth of loans to Ukraine.

The loan will be paid off by revenues from frozen sovereign Russian assets, the UK’s Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves said. The agreement is part of the UK’s “unwavering and ongoing support for Ukrainian people,” Reeves said.

Zelensky said the loan will go “toward the production of weapons in Ukraine.”

“This is the fair way: the one who started the war should pay,” Zelensky said in a Telegram post Saturday, referring to the use of Russian assets. He added that “the loan will strengthen our defense capabilities.”

Ukraine’s Minister of Finance Serhiy Marchenko, who joined the meeting remotely via video link, said Ukraine was “so grateful” for the “very necessary” agreement.

The loans are in addition to the UK’s ongoing funding of about $3.7 billion (3 billion pounds) per year to Ukraine, Reeves said.

Reeves added that she was struck by the “cross-party support” for the agreement while bringing it through Parliament.

“This money is about helping to secure the territorial integrity of Ukraine,” Reeves said, adding that the funds also reinforce “the security and posterity of all of Europe.”

More on Zelensky and Starmer’s meeting: Zelensky called his meeting with Starmer “significant and warm” and said they spoke about “reliable security guarantees.”

“We discussed the challenges currently facing Ukraine and all of Europe, coordination with partners, specific steps to strengthen Ukraine’s position, and the pursuit of a just peace to end the war, along with reliable security guarantees,” Zelensky wrote on Telegram.

Zelensky said Starmer offered “principled words of support” and Ukraine is “happy to have such strategic partners and share the same vision for a secure future for all.”

Who are they going yo buy the arms from?

[Gepetto]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Who are they going yo buy the arms from?

Several countries that are not the #1 supplier. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1294196/ukraine-arms-imports-by-country/#:~:text=The United States was the,amounted to 659 million TIV.

[Hardcore troubadour]

UK gets to loan them money. Must be nice. We just get stuck with a bill. Thanks Hunter. 

[squistion]

Can't blame them. It was a disgraceful display by POTUS and his VP acting like schoolyard bullies. 

https://x.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1895925514902352153

One of Norway's largest marine fuel companies just announced that they will no longer refuel US Navy vessels after Trump’s treatment of Zelenskyy.

“It made us sick... We encourage all Norwegians and Europeans to follow our example.” 

[seafoam1]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

“It made us sick... We encourage all Norwegians and Europeans to follow our example.” 

Good. See how far that gets you libtard.  

Ukraine will be off the map pretty soon because Norwegians won't send anyone to support the Ukrainians.  

[The Real timschochet]

When the minerals deal was announced (4 days ago) we were told it was a big win for Trump. Now that the minerals deals has been canceled we are told it’s a big win for Trump. Both times we are told that Trump is a master negotiator. 
 

Seems inconsistent. But then, I’m not a member of the fan club. 

[Horseman]

19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

When the minerals deal was announced (4 days ago) we were told it was a big win for Trump. Now that the minerals deals has been canceled we are told it’s a big win for Trump. Both times we are told that Trump is a master negotiator. 
 

Seems inconsistent. But then, I’m not a member of the fan club. 

It's pretty simple simpleton. 

1 - No more money to Urkaine = cake 

2 - Minerals deal = extra icing.  

Only fattards get upset when there isn't extra icing.  

Thought I'd try explaining it in a language you'd understand. 

[The Real timschochet]

12 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It's pretty simple simpleton. 

1 - No more money to Urkaine = cake 

2 - Minerals deal = extra icing.  

Only fattards get upset when there isn't extra icing.  

Thought I'd try explaining it in a language you'd understand. 

Yeah except we haven’t stopped sending money to Ukraine, and I suspect we won’t. 

[jbycho]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah except we haven’t stopped sending money to Ukraine, and I suspect we won’t. 

It's over with Sally. Sorry. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah except we haven’t stopped sending money to Ukraine, and I suspect we won’t. 

Well, yeah, actually we have.