Supreme Court rules that Trump cannot stop foreign aid

[The Real timschochet]

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5177420-supreme-court-blocks-trump-funding/
 

This is a great result; the guardrails are creaky but intact. Hopefully it will lead to more limitations on President Trump’s attempt to consolidate too much power in the White House. Maybe next we can challenge his ability to break solemn treaties by enacting tariffs? 

[Mike Honcho]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5177420-supreme-court-blocks-trump-funding/
 

This is a great result; the guardrails are creaky but intact. Hopefully it will lead to more limitations on President Trump’s attempt to consolidate too much power in the White House. Maybe next we can challenge his ability to break solemn treaties by enacting tariffs? 

Less great is that 4 judges clearly don't understand the law.  

[seafoam1]

An executive order should wipe that slate clean quickly enough. 

Where in the constitution does it say the US needs to take care of the rest of the world? Hint: Nowhere. 

[MDC]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

An executive order should wipe that slate clean quickly enough. 

Where in the constitution does it say the US needs to take care of the rest of the world? Hint: Nowhere. 

Article 1 Section 9 puts Congress in charge of the purse strings. 

[Tree of Knowledge]

Hopefully, DOGE traces the money so the grifters are exposed

[HB Localboy]

I knew it would be a mistake to nominate a chick that adopted Haitians!  

 

Fookking kunt! 

[RaiderHaters Revenge]

USAID isn’t foreign aid 

[jonmx]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5177420-supreme-court-blocks-trump-funding/
 

This is a great result; the guardrails are creaky but intact. Hopefully it will lead to more limitations on President Trump’s attempt to consolidate too much power in the White House. Maybe next we can challenge his ability to break solemn treaties by enacting tariffs? 

You just love you some unelected black-robbed bastard who want to pretend he is president.  This judge has no authority and did not even vouch for the legitimacy of any of these payments.   It is just a bunch of wasteful and abusive spending given to a bunch of left-wing extremists groups who will enrich themselves.   I am so focking sick of bootlickers.  Good thing this is the last year this crap is going to happen. 

[squistion]

17 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You just love you some unelected black-robbed bastard who want to pretend he is president.  This judge has no authority and did not even vouch for the legitimacy of any of these payments.   It is just a bunch of wasteful and abusive spending given to a bunch of left-wing extremists groups who will enrich themselves.   I am so focking sick of bootlickers.  Good thing this is the last year this crap is going to happen. 

There are foreign aid payments owed under existing contracts that were entered into before Trump took office. The judge does not the have the right to determine the legitimacy of these payments. 

[Ron_Artest]

He's probably going to defy the court anyway and there is nothing anyone can do.  Dictator.

[jbycho]

There should be a law in our country that says if anyone in this country needs aid, that will, at all times, take precedence over foreign aid. And I'm not talking about stupid lazy people on drugs or who don't want to work for a living. 

[jbycho]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

He's probably going to defy the court anyway and there is nothing anyone can do.  Dictator.

Good. 

[RLLD]

This is an unfortunate setback to be sure.  I hope that the waste and abuse of our tax money continues to be highlighted though.  Maybe there are other means we can end the abuse of our tax money? Can they perhaps just tariff the living sh@t out of those receiving the money and coerce them into returning it? I would welcome that.

[RLLD]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

He's probably going to defy the court anyway and there is nothing anyone can do.  Dictator.

I think he should look at how Biden defied it, and consider modelling that approach to flout the SCOTUS. At the very least it would be fun to see liberals suddenly pretend that is wrong.....

[jbycho]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This is an unfortunate setback to be sure.  I hope that the waste and abuse of our tax money continues to be highlighted though.  Maybe there are other means we can end the abuse of our tax money? Can they perhaps just tariff the living sh@t out of those receiving the money and coerce them into returning it? I would welcome that.

I heard on this very site that tariffs are going to destroy our country. 

[RLLD]

1 minute ago, jbycho said:

I heard on this very site that tariffs are going to destroy our country. 

Hmmmm, yeah I heard that as well......yet...Biden kept the prior Trump tariffs....hmmmm.....seems as though it could be true that Democrats are struggling to find something with which to sell fear to folks.....

[RaiderHaters Revenge]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

He's probably going to defy the court anyway and there is nothing anyone can do.  Dictator.

you probably didnt care when Biden did it did you?

 

[Ron_Artest]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think he should look at how Biden defied it, and consider modelling that approach to flout the SCOTUS. At the very least it would be fun to see liberals suddenly pretend that is wrong.....

Biden never defied the court.  He simply found other legal means.  The "Other means" for Trump is to go through Congress to stop this funding but he's not interested in following the law.

[Ron_Artest]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

you probably didnt care when Biden did it did you?

 

Biden didn't.

[RLLD]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

Biden never defied the court.  He simply found other legal means.  The "Other means" for Trump is to go through Congress to stop this funding but he's not interested in following the law.

Sure, finding "other means" is just how we get around the law, so I hope that Trump is able to stop the abuse of our tax dollars......by..." some other means".....works for me

[Ron_Artest]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hmmmm, yeah I heard that as well......yet...Biden kept the prior Trump tariffs....hmmmm.....seems as though it could be true that Democrats are struggling to find something with which to sell fear to folks.....

The new tariffs are 1000x than the old tariffs.  Try being honest.

[RaiderHaters Revenge]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Biden didn't.

Biden continued to give money for student loans after the SCOTUS ruled he COULDN'T

not surprised head in the sand Libtard didn't know that though

too busy screaming TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ron_Artest]

Just now, RLLD said:

Sure, finding "other means" is just how we get around the law, so I hope that Trump is able to stop the abuse of our tax dollars......by..." some other means".....works for me

As long as it's legal, then it will be unfortunate but at least it would show he might still have some respect for the rule of law.  Would be a welcome change from him and the Repoublican party.

[squistion]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

This is an unfortunate setback to be sure.  I hope that the waste and abuse of our tax money continues to be highlighted though.  Maybe there are other means we can end the abuse of our tax money? Can they perhaps just tariff the living sh@t out of those receiving the money and coerce them into returning it? I would welcome that.

Which would be passed on to consumers in this country as with all other tariffs. 

[RLLD]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

The new tariffs are 1000x than the old tariffs.  Try being honest.

Thats fine, let keep using them, maybe....this could finally be the accusation....that comes true for Democrats.....

[RLLD]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

As long as it's legal, then it will be unfortunate but at least it would show he might still have some respect for the rule of law.  Would be a welcome change from him and the Repoublican party.

No...I think he should Biden this situation.   And I have to thank Biden for showing us what is acceptable, and the Democrats for agreeing with him......because now the Republicans can so the very same stuff,

[RLLD]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Which would be passed on to consumers in this country as with all other tariffs. 

Well, all they would have to do is return our money, then all is well of course......simple really.  

[Fumbleweed]

Like the supreme court decision or not, I am always going to be thankful to live in a three-tiered system when it comes to government that offers checks and balances on power. May it always be so. 

[Ron_Artest]

7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Biden continued to give money for student loans after the SCOTUS ruled he COULDN'T

not surprised head in the sand Libtard didn't know that though

 

SCOTUS rules Biden couldn't forgive student loans under the HEROES Act, so Biden found other means to partially forgive loans where he could.

The SCOTUS doesn't have the authority to say "Biden can't forgive student loans".  All he has to do is pass a law to do it or do it under existing laws.

not surprised head in the sand Maga didn't know that though

[The Real timschochet]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hmmmm, yeah I heard that as well......yet...Biden kept the prior Trump tariffs....hmmmm.....seems as though it could be true that Democrats are struggling to find something with which to sell fear to folks.....

First off nobody wrote tariffs will destroy the country so no you didn’t hear it as well. What you heard is that the new tariffs on Mexico and Canada will seriously hurt our economy. You heard that not just here but all over the place from liberal and conservative economists alike. 
Second these new tariffs are 10 times the size of the previous tariffs so what Biden did isn’t relevant. You know this because we’ve discussed it before and you acknowledged it. You’re repeating statements and arguments that you know to be untrue. 

[Maximum Overkill]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

He's probably going to defy the court anyway and there is nothing anyone can do.  Dictator.

You've been saying this for how many years now?  

[RaiderHaters Revenge]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

SCOTUS rules Biden couldn't forgive student loans under the HEROES Act, so Biden found other means to partially forgive loans where he could.

The SCOTUS doesn't have the authority to say "Biden can't forgive student loans".  All he has to do is pass a law to do it or do it under existing laws.

not surprised head in the sand Maga didn't know that though

Biden or any president does NOT have the authority to forgive debt of an individual thru a private party

 

[Ron_Artest]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

No...I think he should Biden this situation.   And I have to thank Biden for showing us what is acceptable, and the Democrats for agreeing with him......because now the Republicans can so the very same stuff,

Of course, that's the way Government works.

The far worse scenario is if he defies the court then we have a constitutional crisis.

[The Real timschochet]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Well, all they would have to do is return our money, then all is well of course......simple really.  

You’re making no sense here. You have made reasonable arguments in the past but now you appear to simply be petulant and in favor of whatever Trump wants. There is no longer any logic to your statements, IMO. 

[jbycho]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Of course, that's the way Government works.

The far worse scenario is if he defies the court then we have a constitutional crisis.

Now all of a sudden you don't like Biden? 

[jbycho]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re making no sense here. You have made reasonable arguments in the past but now you appear to simply be petulant and in favor of whatever Trump wants. There is no longer any logic to your statements, IMO. 

He's standing on the right side of logic in this case. 

[Ron_Artest]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Biden or any president does NOT have the authority to forgive debt of an individual thru a private party

 

Congress does.

[The Real timschochet]

Just now, jbycho said:

He's standing on the right side of logic in this case. 

No he isn’t and in any case you’re incapable of making that judgment. You’ve never shown the ability to define any issue beyond “Trump is right and the libs are wrong.” Nobody expects you to go any deeper than that so carry on. 

[squistion]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

You’re making no sense here. You have made reasonable arguments in the past but now you appear to simply be petulant and in favor of whatever Trump wants. There is no longer any logic to your statements, IMO. 

Like most MAGA folks he doesn't seem to understand how tariffs really work (and there will be a rude awakening for this crowd in the coming weeks unless Trump reverses course). 

[Tebok]

1 hour ago, MDC said:

Article 1 Section 9 puts Congress in charge of the purse strings. 

seafart needs to go take a political-science class.