SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Caine Mutiny said: 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Considering the whole Russian collusion hoax was obviously just that, a hoax , you have to wonder why it took Meuller 2 1/2 years to reach that conclusion. He slow walked it in order to harm a presidency. His patriotism and sacrifice in his younger days does not change that. Expand It wasn’t a hoax. The reason it took so long is because Trump stalled giving up any evidence. Finally Mueller basically gave up. But Trump was certainly guilty of obstruction of justice and should rightfully be in prison right now as a result. Mueller was called in to examine Russian influence. He found there was, including the hacking & dissemination of the DNC data. He found that the Trump campaign knew of the influence & actively took advantage of it. Then Trump personally obstructed the investigation into all that. The OSC did not examine the conspiracy issue (vs collusion, though it did find over 900 contacts between the campaign & Russians of various stripes), that was left to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. It was led by now SOD Marco Rubio and its report was much more damning. <<<In recent years, Russia has reportedly hacked or attempted to hack democratic elections, the Olympics, the power grid in Ukraine, and now the international organization that investigates the illegal use of chemical weapons. As Justice Department officials stated today, these actions are part of a criminal conspiracy and are wholly unacceptable.>>> Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted March 22 Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Mueller was called in to examine Russian influence. He found there was, including the hacking & dissemination of the DNC data. He found that the Trump campaign knew of the influence & actively took advantage of it. Then Trump personally obstructed the investigation into all that. The OSC did not examine the conspiracy issue (aka collusion), that was left to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence. It was led by now SOD Marco Rubio and its report was much more damning. <<<In recent years, Russia has reportedly hacked or attempted to hack democratic elections, the Olympics, the power grid in Ukraine, and now the international organization that investigates the illegal use of chemical weapons. As Justice Department officials stated today, these actions are part of a criminal conspiracy and are wholly unacceptable.>>> Sure thing man. They decided to let Trump go. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Sure thing man. They decided to let Trump go. Trump pardoned the persons within one degree of himself. Flynn (who reneged on his guilty plea) & Manafort in particular. Without anyone to flip by 2021 it was pretty impossible to indict. Cohen however did flip & it landed Trump with 34 felony charges, all of which he was convicted. That cover up came out of the Mueller investigation. Seven other persons pled guilty. Iirc Trump’s pardons forfeited something like $800 million owed to the American people. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 14 hours ago, nobody said: Everytime beernutz posts a Q tweet, it references this Delta stuff. Does anyone know what that is supposed to be? Like is it just time difference? If so, why does 7 years matter? Like this is a just a picture of some poorly formatted log of events with brackets around it pointing to a tweet. How do they even fit together? Is the point for us to understand the conspiracy, why don't they just explain in plain english what's going on instead of these confusing tweets? 7 is a significant number in numerology. Q was written in a type of code. The tweets are usually deciphering the code. It is confirmed that Trump is a part of Q. Elon has been brought in as well. You have to either go back to the beginning and decipher it all for yourself, or you find accounts that have been doing it for a while. The main thing I point out is how did Q know these things in advance? Q has said multiple times "how many times until mathematically impossible." Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 14 hours ago, nobody said: Like this one. Someone said "heart attacks can be deadly" 7 years ago and then someone had a heart attack. Is that supposed to mean something? Just explain the point. On the same day during his speech a man behind Trump has a heart attack. What are the odds? Each individual prediction by itself isn't too impressive. Add them up and it becomes impossible to ignore. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 23 Posted March 23 25 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: On the same day during his speech a man behind Trump has a heart attack. What are the odds? Each individual prediction by itself isn't too impressive. Add them up and it becomes impossible to ignore. The bad news is that your crazy bullsh!t has become dangerously widespread in recent years. The good news is that the coming blue tsunami this November, which will be overwhelming, will hopefully send people who think like you do back into the insignificance they’ve always belonged in. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted March 23 Posted March 23 22 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: The bad news is that your crazy bullsh!t has become dangerously widespread in recent years. The good news is that the coming blue tsunami this November, which will be overwhelming, will hopefully send people who think like you do back into the insignificance they’ve always belonged in. If we get the SAVE Act passed it won’t even be a blue trickle. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 23 Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: If we get the SAVE Act passed it won’t even be a blue trickle. Unlikely but also irrelevant because the SAVE Act will never pass. It’s DOA Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted March 23 Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: Unlikely but also irrelevant because the SAVE Act will never pass. It’s DOA Unfortunately. Can’t fix our Republic with common sense legislation over 80% of people approve. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted March 23 Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Caine Mutiny said: SAVE Act Why would you be against this? Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted March 23 Posted March 23 You need ID to buy beer or spray paint but not to vote? @Caine Mutiny @dogcows How does this make sense to you? Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said: If we get the SAVE Act passed it won’t even be a blue trickle. Oh it's getting passed one way or another. If it doesn't pass through congress, Trump will issue an EO based on national security. This will be proven through international interference in past elections. The blue dribble is much closer to the truth. Most Americans are disgusted by what democrats represent today. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: The bad news is that your crazy bullsh!t has become dangerously widespread in recent years. The good news is that the coming blue tsunami this November, which will be overwhelming, will hopefully send people who think like you do back into the insignificance they’ve always belonged in. You are less than clueless. Which is fine. We need people who are intellectually vacant in this world too. When blue loses in the mid terms, you will make up some excuse for your precious media lying to you once again. Quote
dogcows Posted March 23 Posted March 23 7 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: When blue loses in the mid terms Willing to wager some actual $$$ on this? Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted March 23 Posted March 23 41 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Oh it's getting passed one way or another. If it doesn't pass through congress, Trump will issue an EO based on national security. This will be proven through international interference in past elections. The blue dribble is much closer to the truth. Most Americans are disgusted by what democrats represent today. I so hope you are correct. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted March 23 Posted March 23 59 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Oh it's getting passed one way or another. If it doesn't pass through congress, Trump will issue an EO based on national security. This will be proven through international interference in past elections. The blue dribble is much closer to the truth. Most Americans are disgusted by what democrats represent today. China did hack into the UK voting commissions database. I guess the could have done it here? Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted March 23 Author Posted March 23 Q sounds looney, I get it. If you think it's completely made up, remember that it made enough of a stir for MSM to talk about it as crazy conspiracy nonsense. Hilary also alluded to how ridiculous it is. If you think Q is a nothingburger, then you are completely in line with MSM and Hilary on the topic as well. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 8 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Q sounds looney, I get it. If you think it's completely made up, remember that it made enough of a stir for MSM to talk about it as crazy conspiracy nonsense. Hilary also alluded to how ridiculous it is. If you think Q is a nothingburger, then you are completely in line with MSM and Hilary on the topic as well. Where did Q start? Was it 4chan politics? Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted March 24 Author Posted March 24 23 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Where did Q start? Was it 4chan politics? Yes 4chan. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 On 3/22/2026 at 4:41 PM, Caine Mutiny said: No you still don’t see the distinction. I did my best to explain. In truth I don’t blame anyone who tried to avoid the Vietnam War. I probably might have done the same. But to avoid going and then to smear the legacy of someone who won the Bronze Star (Mueller) or to smear someone who was a tortured POW who refused to be released until all of his comrades were (McCain)- that’s disgraceful. I can’t think of any other word that fits. So, draft dodger. Quote
weepaws Posted March 24 Posted March 24 1 hour ago, seafoam1 said: So, draft dodger. If we ever have another civil war, this fool would be home with the children and woman. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 5 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Where did Q start? Was it 4chan politics? Star Trek. The Next Generation. Quote
LaChup Posted March 24 Posted March 24 I remember how all the MSM "crazy conspiracies" turned out over the past 5-6 years. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 24 Posted March 24 13 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Yes 4chan. Thanks. Fwiw I agree with you on your original point. We don’t agree much but I do agree with you there. I know there’s been a lot of reporting on theories about origins of Q, but it always seemed to me being a veteran of these boards that the most likely explanation is it started as a lark by a 4chan/pol mod or board founder & then other mods with the keys took over. Some of these people could be very wealthy with destructive agendas or maybe they’re worker bees with sick senses of humor & resentments, or both. But I think the stuff you’re talking about - the mocking, humiliation, serious or not - is all part of the propagation. And it had serious knockoff effects. IMO Q believers were a key component to the January 6, 2021 attack/autogolpe, & that ecosystem has continued elsewhere with a myriad of Q-style handles & websites. And it’s true, it’s briar patch stuff, people who oppose it become enmeshed in trying to disprove things that can’t be disproved & adherents just become more hardened. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted May 2 Author Posted May 2 Why would they even bring it up if it is all BS? Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Haven’t read any of this thread. But if you asked me to name the one dude in this forum who would surely have to be a Qanon true believer, I would have instantly said @Frozenbeernuts 1 Quote
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