SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, HotRod said: Yes. Trump was fully exonerated It's all political by the democrats If they are not going after clinton than don't go after trump they will never get everyone time to move on Oh come on, I don’t even think you believe this. It’s like the whole maga movement is a troll for just this sort of thing. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 9 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I agree that releasing the information is a good thing. However, again I go back to what's the point? If we find out that 90% of our leaders are absolute pieces of the worst shiiite ever, but we only indict and/or convict a small handful (the ones that are not "on our side") then what's the point? There is NO point because we aren't going after and convicting EVERY SINGLE ONE. You can already see that people are treating and believing the Clintons in a much different way than they believed Trump. It wasn't only Monica that claimed to be a victim either. There are several women that claimed Clinton was a sexual predator. I mean, look at the posts above, "Oh I think you're lying the girls were 16." Okay...so then I guess it's cool because it's Clinton, and you know, he's just lying, or the files are wrong, or hey...we didn't KNOW how old the girls were. It's just a bunch of cr@p, IMO. If you're going to release these files and everything, go after everyone. Even the guys on your side. Fock them all. But that's not what's happening. That’s on the Bondi DOJ. 100%, if you want more details let me know. Quote
TheNewGirl Posted March 5 Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, HotRod said: Yes. Trump was fully exonerated It's all political by the democrats If they are not going after clinton than don't go after trump they will never get everyone time to move on I am not sure that's my point either; moving on isn't going to help. They NEED to go after all of them and treat them ALL the same. If there's credible evidence (I mean, isn't there like a million hours of video?) then get them ALL. And, I don't think Clinton is being truthful about his own involvement, but then saying that he never saw Trump with the girls, never knew anything about Trump, etc. Is that also a lie so he can remain in his "good graces?" Or maybe Trump wasn't involved in that part of Epstein's life and Clinton is being honest. It's VERY difficult to determine who is lying and who isn't; these people have been living on lies and corruption forever. Quote
thegeneral Posted March 5 Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I agree that releasing the information is a good thing. However, again I go back to what's the point? If we find out that 90% of our leaders are absolute pieces of the worst shiiite ever, but we only indict and/or convict a small handful (the ones that are not "on our side") then what's the point? There is NO point because we aren't going after and convicting EVERY SINGLE ONE. You can already see that people are treating and believing the Clintons in a much different way than they believed Trump; despite KNOWING that Clinton was actually impeached because he lied to Congress. It wasn't only Monica that claimed to be a victim either. I mean, look at the posts above, "Oh I think you're lying the girls were 16." Okay...so then I guess it's cool because it's Clinton, and you know, he's just lying, or the files are wrong, or hey...we didn't KNOW how old the girls were. It's just a bunch of cr@p, IMO. If you're going to release these files and everything, go after everyone. Even the guys on your side. Fock them all. But that's not what's happening. Yes the world isn’t a fair place, that’s the bottom line. You don’t just throw up your hands and say, well why do anything. The more info they put out the more the creepers will be exposed. The more opportunity there is to banish them. For your stuff about Clinton….he was impeached back in his day. It was like a 5 year investigation about financial deals to start IIRC and they finally got him on lying about an affair with the intern. He got through it just like Donald got through all his crap. That’s politics, sometimes people are able to navigate it like they both did. Typically the top dogs because it is so damaging to their team. Quote
HotRod Posted March 5 Posted March 5 5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I am not sure that's my point either; moving on isn't going to help. They NEED to go after all of them and treat them ALL the same. If there's credible evidence (I mean, isn't there like a million hours of video?) then get them ALL. And, I don't think Clinton is being truthful about his own involvement, but then saying that he never saw Trump with the girls, never knew anything about Trump, etc. Is that also a lie so he can remain in his "good graces?" Or maybe Trump wasn't involved in that part of Epstein's life and Clinton is being honest. It's VERY difficult to determine who is lying and who isn't; these people have been living on lies and corruption forever. There is no credible evidence against President Trump. Let it go. 1 1 Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, HotRod said: There is no credible evidence against President Trump. Let it go. What about the two open case files with the FBI? Quote
HotRod Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said: What about the two open case files with the FBI? what is in them? thats what i thought Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, HotRod said: what is in them? Not. Released. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, HotRod said: thats what i thought You don’t know what to think because you haven’t seen the two files because they haven’t been released. Quote
TheNewGirl Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, HotRod said: There is no credible evidence against President Trump. Let it go. I am not hanging onto anything. I am just trying to have a conversation about what's expected. I mean, people say it's about the victims, survivors, etc. But is it really? Again, the comments in the thread about Clinton "knowing" the girl was 16 or not. I mean, does that REALLY matter? He was a middle aged man allowing some girl to give him a shoulder massage because he said his shoulders hurt? I mean...EW. But it's not about the "ew" factor here, it's about "Oh, you're lying, she wasn't 16." That's not really looking at her as a victim or a survivor of some creepy old man; it's victim BLAMING. "Did she TELL him she was underage?" Oh no? Then you're lying. 1 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted March 5 Posted March 5 16 hours ago, Strike said: Then I guess Epstein didn't do anything wrong. Let the dead rest in peace!!! 16 hours ago, TimHauck said: So you did lie about them being 16? Bump Quote
HotRod Posted March 5 Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I am not hanging onto anything. I am just trying to have a conversation about what's expected. I mean, people say it's about the victims, survivors, etc. But is it really? Again, the comments in the thread about Clinton "knowing" the girl was 16 or not. I mean, does that REALLY matter? He was a middle aged man allowing some girl to give him a shoulder massage because he said his shoulders hurt? I mean...EW. But it's not about the "ew" factor here, it's about "Oh, you're lying, she wasn't 16." That's not really looking at her as a victim or a survivor of some creepy old man; it's victim BLAMING. "Did she TELL him she was underage?" Oh no? Then you're lying. It is not about the victims it is about getting President Trump but he's been exonerated. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 7 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I am not hanging onto anything. I am just trying to have a conversation about what's expected. I mean, people say it's about the victims, survivors, etc. But is it really? Again, the comments in the thread about Clinton "knowing" the girl was 16 or not. I mean, does that REALLY matter? He was a middle aged man allowing some girl to give him a shoulder massage because he said his shoulders hurt? I mean...EW. But it's not about the "ew" factor here, it's about "Oh, you're lying, she wasn't 16." That's not really looking at her as a victim or a survivor of some creepy old man; it's victim BLAMING. "Did she TELL him she was underage?" Oh no? Then you're lying. I’m out of likes but I would Like this. Just a few notes: - A big issue is what Friends Of Epstein *knew, not strictly whether they participated in crimes per se. - There’s a picture of Clinton swimming in a pool with Maxwell, & to me that’s even more damning than the massage picture (which frankly has been out for a while). - To me it’s really standing out that the GOP did not raise the pool picture as to me it just highlights the relationship is what matters. - The Bondi DOJ would ***love to nail a Clinton or say an Obama associate like Ruemmler or Summers, but they don’t (Pirro has been trying & failing to indict ham, baloney & all sorts of sandwiches & failing yall). And the reason is that they know it would open the door to other prosecutions & discovery. Quote
cyclone24 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Hmmm guess our board liberals arent going to address the vote…. Surprising from the “Its about the victims” crowd. guess we were right…its just about Trump Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Couple more things about the Clinton massage picture: - Epstein took pictures with *everybody. Like Andrew they could just be standing there, that’s enough to create exposure to kompromat. Again that’s something the GOP did not address. - What Clinton was doing there was not a crime, but then neither was that so with Andrew, but Andrew has been charged. Men have been charged in France, Norway & UK now & 9 countries & New Mexico have opened investigations. Bondi has ***no excuse for not doing so herself. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 5 Posted March 5 33 minutes ago, HotRod said: Yes. Trump was fully exonerated It's all political by the democrats If they are not going after clinton than don't go after trump they will never get everyone time to move on So convenient. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted March 5 Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Hmmm guess our board liberals arent going to address the vote…. Surprising from the “Its about the victims” crowd. guess we were right…its just about Trump It never was about the victims and stopping a global satanic pedophile ring. TDS is a terrible disease. 1 Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 hour ago, cyclone24 said: https://patriot1360.iheart.com/content/2026-03-04-house-kills-resolution-to-release-congressional-sexual-misconduct-reports/ Yeah, I don’t think I’ll hear anymore from politicians about this Epstein list and with tears rolling down the face how much they so so care about the victims of sexual assault. Surprise you liberals didn’t catch onto this little vote. I’d hate to think your sole focus is just on one guy, but it appears I’m correct again on it. >>The effort came in direct response to mounting scrutiny of Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-Texas), who faces allegations that he had an affair with a female staffer, Regina Santos-Aviles, who died by suicide in September 2025 after setting herself on fire. << >> Thirty-eight Republicans and 27 Democrats voted against referring Mace's resolution to the Ethics Committee — the only votes in support of moving forward with the disclosure effort. .. Separately, on Wednesday (March 4), the Ethics Committee announced it had opened a formal investigation into the allegations against Gonzales. House rules explicitly ban lawmakers from engaging in sexual relationships with staff members in their own offices — a rule added in 2018 in the wake of the #MeToo movement.<<< - I’ll agree to agree with you. Besides Gonzales I think lots of people would like to see the Gaetz files too. - There was another vote like this in Congress, I will see if I can dig it up. 1 Quote
cyclone24 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: >>The effort came in direct response to mounting scrutiny of Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-Texas), who faces allegations that he had an affair with a female staffer, Regina Santos-Aviles, who died by suicide in September 2025 after setting herself on fire. << >> Thirty-eight Republicans and 27 Democrats voted against referring Mace's resolution to the Ethics Committee — the only votes in support of moving forward with the disclosure effort. .. Separately, on Wednesday (March 4), the Ethics Committee announced it had opened a formal investigation into the allegations against Gonzales. House rules explicitly ban lawmakers from engaging in sexual relationships with staff members in their own offices — a rule added in 2018 in the wake of the #MeToo movement.<<< - I’ll agree to agree with you. Besides Gonzales I think lots of people would like to see the Gaetz files too. - There was another vote like this in Congress, I will see if I can dig it up. As long as it doesnt negatively impact an ongoing investigation im good with releasing any info….its just tricky Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Cy 30 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Hmmm guess our board liberals arent going to address the vote…. Surprising from the “Its about the victims” crowd. guess we were right…its just about Trump Cy - besides my comment above I think it’s really interesting that Republican women have driven a good piece of this. Btw Mace is leaving Congress & Greene has already been forced out. There’s a price. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, cyclone24 said: As long as it doesnt negatively impact an ongoing investigation im good with releasing any info….its just tricky The Gonzalez story is pretty bad, your story talks about that. Sounds like the Ethics Committee is moving forward with him. I agree I’d hold that until they’re done. But it’s bad already. 1 Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Senate Bill on Epstein Finances blocked @cyclone24this measure also got blocked, fyi. Quote
cyclone24 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Senate Bill on Epstein Finances blocked @cyclone24this measure also got blocked, fyi. Yeah, I’m not saying this is right or wrong. I think everyone is in a tough spot trying to be careful not to expose a bunch of victims and also not falsely accuse anybody that gets themselves sued either. It’s a mess and probably why neither side can seem to get anything done with it. It’s extensive it’s deep and it’s really really hard to prove. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 5 Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, HotRod said: There is no credible evidence against President Trump. Let it go. We don’t know it’s not credible because the girL accusing him hasn’t been interviewed properly. It certainly sounds credible. 2 Quote
TheNewGirl Posted March 5 Posted March 5 15 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: This is all going to come out eventually. Like the JFK files; nearly 60 years later. When all of these old focks are dead. Or suicided themselves. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 5 Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Like the JFK files; nearly 60 years later. When all of these old focks are dead. Or suicided themselves. No much sooner. As soon as the Democrats take control. And before you ask why didn’t they act on it when Biden was in charge it’s because they’re hypocrites and cowards and corrupt and trying to protect their own. But now they have the public on their side and they think Trump did something really wrong (and they’re probably right about that) so they’re willing to let it all explode. And it will. 3 Quote
TheNewGirl Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Just now, Caine Mutiny said: No much sooner. As soon as the Democrats take control. And before you ask why didn’t they act on it when Biden was in charge it’s because they’re hypocrites and cowards and corrupt and trying to protect their own. But now they have the public on their side and they think Trump did something really wrong (and they’re probably right about that) so they’re willing to let it all explode. And it will. Eh, we will see. It's clear that the Dems are being treated much differently during this investigation; esp the Clintons. They've been shady as fock for YEARS...but no one seems to care much about that. If Dems are in control again, it will 100% be all and only about "getting Trump." That's all anyone seems to really care about. 1 1 Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 15 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Eh, we will see. It's clear that the Dems are being treated much differently during this investigation; esp the Clintons. They've been shady as fock for YEARS...but no one seems to care much about that. If Dems are in control again, it will 100% be all and only about "getting Trump." That's all anyone seems to really care about. I guess I don’t understand this considering it’s the Bondi/Trump DOJ holding the keys here. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 46 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: We don’t know it’s not credible because the girL accusing him hasn’t been interviewed properly. It certainly sounds credible. "Interviewed"? How about she takes it to court and wins or loses there? Instead of public opinion. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 5 Posted March 5 20 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Eh, we will see. It's clear that the Dems are being treated much differently during this investigation; esp the Clintons. They've been shady as fock for YEARS...but no one seems to care much about that. If Dems are in control again, it will 100% be all and only about "getting Trump." That's all anyone seems to really care about. Of course it will. But you can’t do that without getting all sorts of others in trouble including Democrats. And if Trump is guilty of crimes then he SHOULD be got. No matter how much hypocrisy is involved on the side of the Democrats. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Caine Mutiny said: Of course it will. But you can’t do that without getting all sorts of others in trouble including Democrats. And if Trump is guilty of crimes then he SHOULD be got. No matter how much hypocrisy is involved on the side of the Democrats. Why do you focus on Trump if it's a lot of people? You never go after anyone else. You never mention all the court battle outcomes put up by the "victims". Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 42 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Like the JFK files; nearly 60 years later. When all of these old focks are dead. Or suicided themselves. There was no one else to prosecute in the Kennedy murder. But the government had an independent commission led by the Chief Justice of the USSC & produced 26 volumes of findings and interviews. 30 years after a law passed based on an awful conspiracy laden movie various presidents produced files, & Trump released the remaining files this past year entirely ****unredacted. With Epstein, the Feds gave him an unparalleled Bon-Prosecution Agreement that protected not only him but ***all other co-conspirators from future prosecution. When states like New York & New Mexico tried to investigate Epstein they were told to stand down. Quote
nobody Posted March 5 Posted March 5 18 hours ago, TheNewGirl said: Does anyone actually believe that anything will happen as a result of this? All these politicians, rich people, whatever are ALL going to go to jail? All be fined? I mean, is the endgame basically "TRUMP!!!" or does anyone actually care about Prince Andrew, the Clintons, Bill Gates, etc? I mean....Bill Gates in prison? Does anyone THINK that's going to happen? You get the files. You read through them. You have the hearings. And then what? And the people who say that they WANT the system to fail. Really? Also, not being sarcastic or anything. I really want to know what people are expecting to happen. It reaches so far and wide (like your mom), that getting "EVERYONE" is going to be near to impossible without seriously impacting the globe. Is it just all about Trump and fock everyone else? Some people are seeing some consequences. I'm holding out hope more perps will see at least some form of justice. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Oh come on, I don’t even think you believe this. It’s like the whole maga movement is a troll for just this sort of thing. Why? What did Trump do? Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted March 5 Posted March 5 45 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Why do you focus on Trump if it's a lot of people? You never go after anyone else. You never mention all the court battle outcomes put up by the "victims". Tim comes from the same lineage as Epstein. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Tim comes from the same lineage as Epstein. Must be. I don't get what he's fighting for. And why it's taken him years to actually speak up about it. Was he silenced under Biden? Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted March 5 Posted March 5 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Must be. I don't get what he's fighting for. And why it's taken him years to actually speak up about it. Was he silenced under Biden? He didn’t care. He has TDS. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: He didn’t care. He has TDS. That IS a problem. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 5 Posted March 5 4 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: He didn’t care. He has TDS. That IS a problem. Quote
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