Tebok 442 Posted June 11 How Hitler used a phony crisis to seize power from states: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/hitler-public-order/683098/ Quote At Hitler’s urging, President Paul von Hindenburg issued an Article 48 emergency decree, “Decree of the Reich President for the Protection of People and State.” The first paragraph suspended civil liberties, providing Hitler the means to suppress political opposition in advance of the upcoming elections on March 5. The second paragraph gave Hitler the power to trample states’ rights: “If any state fails to take the necessary measures to restore public safety and order, the Reich government may temporarily take over the powers of the highest state authority.” Trump was all about "states' rights" during the campaign, but here he is trampling them in a blue state. Trump has federalized the California National Guard. Trump has sent in U.S. Marines. The rioting so far hasn't come close to warranting these steps. Wake up, people! 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,407 Posted June 11 24 minutes ago, Tebok said: There are some here who think it was, but now that I know at least two of you aren't OK with it, I can't safely not lump all MAGAs in with the Jan. 6 lovers, minimizers and whatabouters. Now, if we could only get MAGAs to stop saying The Left loves violence! You emote like a girl in college. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,197 Posted June 11 6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: The majority of us agree that it was not Ok. I think this has been said here SEVERAL times. These "protests" always turn into people blocking FREEWAYS in our larger cities; LA, FFS. Go stand in the middle of an LA freeway for "the cause" and then loot and burn . This does NOTHING to show your support of immigration. You're just destroying that OTHER PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR. In 2020, I remember watching LIVE on the news of people in the middle of I-5 in Sacramento. Busiest freeway with HUGE semi trucks just cruising along at their speed; PEOPLE standing in the freeway. You want to be a martyr and go kill yourself because you hate ICE, go for it. But quit destroying other people's businesses, federal buildings, and other things. Once again for those who missed it: The people who are looting and burning are not the same people who are protesting peacefully (I don't agree they should block the freeway). As in 2020 in L.A. with the George Floyd protests, a criminal element came out after the protests had ended for the day and the protesters had gone home, that was when the burning and looting started. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,907 Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Tebok said: How Hitler used a phony crisis to seize power from states: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/hitler-public-order/683098/ Trump was all about "states' rights" during the campaign, but here he is trampling them in a blue state. Trump has federalized the California National Guard. Trump has sent in U.S. Marines. The rioting so far hasn't come close to warranting these steps. Wake up, people! Jesus...Hitler again? You guys never stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,903 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, Tebok said: How Hitler used a phony crisis to seize power from states: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/hitler-public-order/683098/ Trump was all about "states' rights" during the campaign, but here he is trampling them in a blue state. Trump has federalized the California National Guard. Trump has sent in U.S. Marines. The rioting so far hasn't come close to warranting these steps. Wake up, people! It wasn't a phony crisis. Jews literally declared war on Germany and attempted a coup so they could install Russian-style communism. I know the winners try to rewrite history, but Germany didn't just decide one day to start WWII Also, immigration is a FEDERAL issue,e not a state issue. California doesn't get to decide to open up the border. Can you explain why you don't understand that? 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,907 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: It wasn't a phony crisis. Jews literally declared war on Germany and attempted a coup so they could install Russian-style communism. I know the winners try to rewrite history, but Germany didn't just decide one day to start WWII Also, immigration is a FEDERAL issue,e not a state issue. California doesn't get to decide to open up the border. Can you explain why you don't understand that? Because the Atlantic said HITLER!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 442 Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: The majority of us agree that it was not Ok. I think this has been said here SEVERAL times. These "protests" always turn into people blocking FREEWAYS in our larger cities; LA, FFS. Go stand in the middle of an LA freeway for "the cause" and then loot and burn . This does NOTHING to show your support of immigration. You're just destroying that OTHER PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR. In 2020, I remember watching LIVE on the news of people in the middle of I-5 in Sacramento. Busiest freeway with HUGE semi trucks just cruising along at their speed; PEOPLE standing in the freeway. You want to be a martyr and go kill yourself because you hate ICE, go for it. But quit destroying other people's businesses, federal buildings, and other things. OK, so can we agree that @Strike and others here are wrong when they say "the left wants violence?" This has been said repeatedly here. Also, I've repeatedly posted about opportunists who don't give a rat's ass about politics and simply want to take advantage of a volatile situation and get a chance to burn, vandalize, loot and assault. The protests are mostly peaceful, but the MAGAs mock that and use what the opportunists are doing to label everything to the left of themselves as violence-loving. I even quoted a police leader regarding this. It's the stupid fukking MAGA misinformation, intolerance and disrespecting others' political beliefs that's a huge problem in this country. They would LOVE a one-party system, and that's supporting authoritarianism with a lunatic dictator wanna be at the helm. I'll watch Fox News and see nonstop anti-Democrat vitriol and misinformation. I don't see that on CNN or MSNBC about Republicans. I see the nightly personalities heavily focused on Trump and the mayhem he is causing. I see them quote Nancy Pelosi as saying the country needs a strong Republican Party. She didn't say strongarm, which is what we have from the bully pulpit. Sick of this shiit. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted June 11 7 minutes ago, squistion said: Once again for those who missed it: The people who are looting and burning are not the same people who are protesting peacefully (I don't agree they should block the freeway). As in 2020 in L.A. with the George Floyd protests, a criminal element came out after the protests had ended for the day and the protesters had gone home, that was when the burning and looting started. Liar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,856 Posted June 11 15 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: It wasn't a phony crisis. Jews literally declared war on Germany and attempted a coup so they could install Russian-style communism. Lololol, I guess @Cdub100 had to one-up the idiots defending the Confederacy 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted June 11 20 minutes ago, Tebok said: OK, so can we agree that @Strike and others here are wrong when they say "the left wants violence?" This has been said repeatedly here. Also, I've repeatedly posted about opportunists who don't give a rat's ass about politics and simply want to take advantage of a volatile situation and get a chance to burn, vandalize, loot and assault. The protests are mostly peaceful, but the MAGAs mock that and use what the opportunists are doing to label everything to the left of themselves as violence-loving. I even quoted a police leader regarding this. It's the stupid fukking MAGA misinformation, intolerance and disrespecting others' political beliefs that's a huge problem in this country. They would LOVE a one-party system, and that's supporting authoritarianism with a lunatic dictator wanna be at the helm. I'll watch Fox News and see nonstop anti-Democrat vitriol and misinformation. I don't see that on CNN or MSNBC about Republicans. I see the nightly personalities heavily focused on Trump and the mayhem he is causing. I see them quote Nancy Pelosi as saying the country needs a strong Republican Party. She didn't say strongarm, which is what we have from the bully pulpit. Sick of this shiit. LOL misinformation. Like the misinformation from the MSM about the purpose of the ICE raid in LA that gaslit the mob to start this entire thing? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,790 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, squistion said: More LOL, as if on cue. That isn't why ICE raided that downtown facility that started all this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,489 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, Tebok said: It's the stupid fukking MAGA misinformation, intolerance and disrespecting others' political beliefs that's a huge problem in this country. They would LOVE a one-party system, and that's supporting authoritarianism with a lunatic dictator wanna be at the helm. This is where you lose me. I live in CA which is one party rule and has been for years. You can't tell me that one party rule is okay for liberals, but not for conservatives. I live it from the other side. Talk about a state where political beliefs aren't tolerated. Wear a MAGA hat in SF and tell me how you feel about disrespect, or at this point, just put a Trump sticker on your car and wait for the vandalism. You can't make the statement that Trump wants one party rule and then look at a blue state like CA and tell me it's not true for the other side as well, at least from my perspective. Gavin is an authoritarian dictator; goes against what his people vote (gas tax is just ONE example). Trying to pass laws that TELL people what kind of car or lawn mower they can buy? Talk about First Amendment; Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. You're TELLING people what they have to buy, taking away ALL choice. Meanwhile, your infrastructure is so shiity that it cannot sustain what you want people to do. Good luck charging the electric car in the summer when they literally have power companies TURN OFF YOUR POWER. EVERY SUMMER. And Karen Bass is a known communist who has ties to Cuba and Castro who has shown both thru the LA fires AND the protests that she doesn't give a shiiite. She focking SMILES in the interviews while her cities are burning. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,489 Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, squistion said: This has bee proven false. They did not go after a Home Depot. And it's rather offensive that she said that; like this is where immigrants hang out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,773 Posted June 11 1 hour ago, squistion said: https://x.com/atrupar/status/1932540135263887632 Trump goads the troops into booing California Gov. Gavin Newsom and LA Mayor Karen Bass and attacks them as "incompetent" Comment from the Twitters: "The military isn’t supposed to be politicized. We’re way past that. Imagine soldiers booing a governor and mayor because they were in the other political party in like 2008. Wouldn’t happen. This is a different world." This is the squissy special. Spam multiple threads with the same tweet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,489 Posted June 11 28 minutes ago, Tebok said: OK, so can we agree that @Strike and others here are wrong when they say "the left wants violence?" This has been said repeatedly here. Also, I've repeatedly posted about opportunists who don't give a rat's ass about politics and simply want to take advantage of a volatile situation and get a chance to burn, vandalize, loot and assault. The protests are mostly peaceful, but the MAGAs mock that and use what the opportunists are doing to label everything to the left of themselves as violence-loving. I even quoted a police leader regarding this. And I am sorry...didn't you mock a clearly peaceful protest by a conservative group just last week? Sure it was some kind of terrible Neo-nazi group...asking if it's okay if they do this? And we all answered that YES...it's okay. As long as they don't start destroying shiiite. Unfortunately, it's also their right to peaceful protest, even if they represent something reprehensible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,856 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: This has bee proven false. They did not go after a Home Depot. And it's rather offensive that she said that; like this is where immigrants hang out. Link? Even NY Post says it happened https://nypost.com/2025/06/08/us-news/migrants-busted-in-la-include-convicted-sex-abusers-drug-dealers-and-gang-members-ice/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,197 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said: And Karen Bass is a known communist who has ties to Cuba and Castro who has shown both thru the LA fires AND the protests that she doesn't give a shiiite. She focking SMILES in the interviews while her cities are burning. Wait, what??????????? Bass is a known Communist? I think I missed that "news" when he ran for Mayor. You wouldn't by chance have a link or some sort of proof to back that claim up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted June 11 CNN says CA should be mexico. I 100% agree. All areas where pelosi, schiff, maxine waters, swallowwell and the rest should go back to mexican control. Then we can be done with these idiots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meglamaniac 494 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, squistion said: Wait, what??????????? Bass is a known Communist? I think I missed that "news" when he ran for Mayor. You wouldn't by chance have a link or some sort of proof to back that claim up? Venceremos Brigade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,667 Posted June 11 19 hours ago, 5-Points said: Remember when the Tea Party protested and attacked cops and left millions of $ of damage in their wake? Yeah, me neither. Because THOSE were peaceful protests. The kind that are protected by the 1st Amendment. Violent rioters and looters with no political lean only follow around wokie protests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,489 Posted June 11 9 minutes ago, squistion said: Wait, what??????????? Bass is a known Communist? I think I missed that "news" when he ran for Mayor. You wouldn't by chance have a link or some sort of proof to back that claim up? Focking seriously? Yes. She was the leader of a communist coalition group in LA. Lived in Cuba for a while, LOVES Castro and called him Commander in Chief when he died. There are also some reports that she's been trained in revolutionary warfare, but I don't see specific links to that. I can imagine she'd want to keep that on the down low. Quote She previously praised Fidel Castro and had close associations with the Caribbean country in her youth, traveling there in 1973 with Venceremos Brigade and seeing the communist leader speak. In 2016, when Castro died, she referred to him as 'comandante en jefe' (commander-in-chief) saying his passing was a 'great loss to the people of Cuba.' She also reportedly gave a eulogy for a senior member of the Communist Party USA. Bass has also been described as the 'leader of the Venceremos Brigade in southern California,' according to a report published by Tablet Magazine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,505 Posted June 11 Yeah I'd like to see some supporting evidence of the home depot raid being fake news. Sounds exactly like the type of thing Maga would repeat. There was more than one ICE raid in LA that sparked the protests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Yeah I'd like to see some supporting evidence of the home depot raid being fake news. Sounds exactly like the type of thing Maga would repeat. There was more than one ICE raid in LA that sparked the protests. Who gives a fock either way. Illegals being deported is a major win. No matter where they are picked up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,505 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Who gives a fock either way. Illegals being deported is a major win. No matter where they are picked up deporting valuable community members who follow the law, work, pay taxes, coach teams, volunteer, etc is not a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,197 Posted June 11 9 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: Focking seriously? Yes. She was the leader of a communist coalition group in LA. Lived in Cuba for a while, LOVES Castro and called him Commander in Chief when he died. There are also some reports that she's been trained in revolutionary warfare, but I don't see specific links to that. I can imagine she'd want to keep that on the down low. I stand corrected. There is some truth to what you say, however, looking into this further: "Karen Bass, currently the Mayor of Los Angeles, has faced scrutiny regarding accusations of being a communist or having strong ties to communism. What Karen Bass has said: She has explicitly denied being a communist or a socialist. She has stated that she has belonged to the Democratic Party her entire life. Why the accusations exist: Past association with the Venceremos Brigade: Bass participated in trips to Cuba in the 1970s with the Venceremos Brigade, an organization that supported the Cuban Revolution and was considered by some to be pro-Cuba and socialist/Marxist-affiliated. Bass stated she was 19 on her first trip and compared the house-building work she did there to that of Habitat for Humanity. She noted that the trips provided an opportunity for activists to connect." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,505 Posted June 11 I can't believe right wing media is still telling people to repeat the communism BS all while promoting a totalitarian regime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,856 Posted June 11 17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: deporting valuable community members who follow the law, work, pay taxes, coach teams, volunteer, etc is not a win. “It’s what they voted for,” apparently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,197 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: “It’s what they voted for,” apparently It's not what most thought they were voting for, Trump said during the campaign that he would go after the worst criminals first, the murderers and the rapists. Instead, ICE is going after the low hanging fruit, the safe arrests of those working construction sites or showing up for scheduled government appointments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,505 Posted June 11 Pregnant US Citizen detained during the LA ICE Raids. @jerryskids says I'm being gaslit. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/pregnant-us-citizen-went-hospital-immigration-agents-detained-rcna212033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,505 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, squistion said: It's not what most thought they were voting for, Trump said during the campaign that he would go after the worst criminals first, the murderers and the rapists. Instead, ICE is going after the low hanging fruit, the safe arrests of those working construction sites or showing up for scheduled government appointments. Actually what they are doing is scooping up everyone from every raid, legal, illegal, doesn't matter, figure it out later. It's Homan's plan to get up to 3k per day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,197 Posted June 11 13 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Actually what they are doing is scooping up everyone from every raid, legal, illegal, doesn't matter, figure it out later. It's Homan's plan to get up to 3k per day. I predicted this before the election and said that the Latinos who were voting for Trump would regret it later, big time, and I was right. As I said last year, people will be swept up in this deportation net just because they look Latino (even if they don't have an accent). Latinos in L.A. are seeing friends, neighbors, co-workers and relatives arrested who are here legally (and ICE, Homan and Trump don't care). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,505 Posted June 11 2 minutes ago, squistion said: I predicted this before the election and said that the Latinos who were voting for Trump would regret it later, big time, and I was right. As I said last year, people will be swept up in this deportation net just because they look Latino (even if they don't have an accent). Latinos in L.A. are seeing friends, neighbors and relatives arrested who are here legally (and ICE, Homan and Trump don't care). Florida state Sen. Ileana Garcia (R), co-founder of Latinas for Trump, issued a sharp rebuke of President Trump on Sunday as his administration seeks to ramp up deportations and other actions against migrants without legal status. Garcia took particular issue with reported tactics in southern Florida, where immigration officials have allegedly been making arrests in immigration courts and taking other steps to target individuals otherwise in compliance with legal orders. https://thehill.com/immigration/5339542-latinas-for-trump-co-founder-blasts-mass-deportations/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted June 11 45 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: deporting valuable community members who follow the law, work, pay taxes, coach teams, volunteer, etc is not a win. Deporting illegals is winning. Big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,610 Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Tebok said: How Hitler used a phony crisis to seize power from states: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/hitler-public-order/683098/ Trump was all about "states' rights" during the campaign, but here he is trampling them in a blue state. Trump has federalized the California National Guard. Trump has sent in U.S. Marines. The rioting so far hasn't come close to warranting these steps. Wake up, people! Low T Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted June 11 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: Low T Rusty puts the 'Q' in LGBTQ. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tebok 442 Posted June 11 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: LOL misinformation. Like the misinformation from the MSM about the purpose of the ICE raid in LA that gaslit the mob to start this entire thing? Nice whatabout while whiffing on the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,987 Posted June 11 34 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Pregnant US Citizen detained during the LA ICE Raids. @jerryskids says I'm being gaslit. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/pregnant-us-citizen-went-hospital-immigration-agents-detained-rcna212033 I seen that Hooker on TV, Cary López Alvarado, she deserves it. Send her to Mexico Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,505 Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Tebok said: Nice whatabout while whiffing on the point. I love Jerry is still gleefully touting a msnbc video of Homan being interviewed as proof that msnbc gaslit it's viewers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 754 Posted June 11 49 minutes ago, TimHauck said: “It’s what they voted for,” apparently Yep. Deport the illegals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
