Reality Posted January 25 Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, Fireballer said: 2nd only to Oakland, by size comparison, in abysmal officer to population ratio. But, you would think people would beating down the door with marketing like this… -Initiatives include a $1 million "Imagine Yourself" recruitment campaign launched in 2024 to attract diverse and younger candidates -30x30 Initiative to boost female recruits to 30% by 2030 I can't imagine an actual patriot wanting that job. Putting your life on the line every day? In that state? There's better ways to make a living. Quote
Fireballer Posted January 25 Posted January 25 18 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m not sure what you expect them to do. Apparently @Strike thinks every DHS officer should have a MPD escort. Is that what you think as well? The chief clearly says they have 600 officers and there are thousands of DHS officers, it would be impossible to do that. I don’t disagree MPD is understaffed, whether intentional or otherwise. But, it’s not like they would be tripping over themselves to help if they had 6000 officers. They’re rhetoric and policy against corporation with ICE is long standing, and has certainly ramped up since 2024 Quote
dogcows Posted January 25 Posted January 25 56 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Why does Minneapolis have so few police officers? Because it was a safe place to live before ICE showed up. 2 2 Quote
TimHauck Posted January 25 Posted January 25 8 minutes ago, Fireballer said: They’re rhetoric and policy against corporation with ICE is long standing, and has certainly ramped up since 2024 Link? Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted January 25 Posted January 25 6 minutes ago, dogcows said: Because it was a safe place to live before ICE showed up. Was it safer when they had 900 cops? Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 26 minutes ago, Fireballer said: 2nd only to Oakland, by size comparison, in abysmal officer to population ratio. But, you would think people would beating down the door with marketing like this… -Initiatives include a $1 million "Imagine Yourself" recruitment campaign launched in 2024 to attract diverse and younger candidates -30x30 Initiative to boost female recruits to 30% by 2030 In the clip you posted the chief seems to blame the reduction in officers on “the destruction of the city after 2020,” which doesn’t really sound like something an extreme liberal would say if that’s what you’re implying 1 Quote
Fireballer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Just now, TimHauck said: Link? Well, if you haven’t seen the ramp up in rhetoric, I’m not sure what to tell you. Policies were revised last year to specify any interaction to be approved by Deputy Chief, outlined discipline for anyone cooperating without approval, made it illegal for ICE to even gather on city property, etc. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Civil unrest is the calling card of tge modern democrat party. Insurrection Act needs invoked. Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: Well, kind of. MPD doesn’t look at ICE as a collective. They will render assistance to individual ICE agents who may need help, as they would any other citizen, which they are required to by law. That’s it. That’s not “back up”, that’s a citizen 911 call. Also, though I have no idea what context LC was eluding to. So when you say “back up,” do you think that’s supposed to mean assist in immigration enforcement? Because that’s all the policies you just mentioned refer to. 1 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted January 26 Posted January 26 17 minutes ago, TimHauck said: In the clip you posted the chief seems to blame the reduction in officers on “the destruction of the city after 2020,” which doesn’t really sound like something an extreme liberal would say if that’s what you’re implying The city was destroyed. By democrats. Glad to see it finally acknowledged. Quote
dogcows Posted January 26 Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Civil unrest is the calling card of tge modern democrat party. Insurrection Act needs invoked. What Party currently controls the presidency and Congress? This is Trump’s America. Blaming democrats for the actions of your own guy is as brainless as it gets. 1 Quote
Grace Under Pressure Posted January 26 Posted January 26 30 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Civil unrest is the calling card of tge modern democrat party. Insurrection Act needs invoked. MAGA ladies and gentlemen. Dumb, gullible, and traitorous. Putting Trump over America since 2016. Quote
Fireballer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 21 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So when you say “back up,” do you think that’s supposed to mean assist in immigration enforcement? Because that’s all the policies you just mentioned refer to. What I’m saying is, if ICE legitimately needs help, MPD is responding to basically assist armed individual citizens. They’re not responding in a mindset of “officer needs assistance”. They’re basically going because, I’m sure in MN statute, responsibilities of duties to act are spelled out. Their intention, no matter what the circumstances, is that they are not going with the mindset to assist another law enforcement agency. Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 16 minutes ago, Fireballer said: What I’m saying is, if ICE legitimately needs help, MPD is responding to basically assist armed individual citizens. They’re not responding in a mindset of “officer needs assistance”. They’re basically going because, I’m sure in MN statute, responsibilities of duties to act are spelled out. Their intention, no matter what the circumstances, is that they are not going with the mindset to assist another law enforcement agency. Their job is to keep the people in their city safe. Their job is not to enforce federal immigration law. Quote
Fireballer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Their job is to keep the people in their city safe. Their job is not to enforce federal immigration law. I literally never said that in this entire conversation. Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, Fireballer said: I literally never said that in this entire conversation. But that’s all the recent policy changes you mentioned refer to - that they do not assist in federal immigration enforcement. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted January 26 Posted January 26 I am interested to see how the relationship between the right and left goes from here. The left gets more radicalized by the day. We will never see eye to eye with them at all politically. So what happens from here? How do we resolve this growing divide? Quote
Strike Posted January 26 Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Their job is to keep the people in their city safe. Their job is not to enforce federal immigration law. Well they let two of their constituents die this week by not isolating them from ICE/BP so they're doing a piss poor job if their job is to keep people in their city safe. Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Well they let two of their constituents die this week by not isolating them from ICE/BP so they're doing a piss poor job if their job is to keep people in their city safe. How long are weeks in your world? Quote
Fireballer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 16 minutes ago, TimHauck said: But that’s all the recent policy changes you mentioned refer to - that they do not assist in federal immigration enforcement. 3 hours ago, TimHauck said: If ICE calls the PD requesting backup Ok I’m done. I have no idea where you going with this now. I got in this to confirm there is no calls for “back up” in the traditional sense, they’re only going to help because they have to. They have no desire to help. ICE can’t even communicate with MPD. It would have to be a 911 call. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Ok I’m done. I have no idea where you going with this now. I got in this to confirm there is no calls for “back up” in the traditional sense, they’re only going to help because they have to. They have no desire to help. ICE can’t even communicate with MPD. It would have to be a 911 call. This is not how agencies operate with each other. Hack is clueless. Don’t bother. Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Ok I’m done. I have no idea where you going with this now. I got in this to confirm there is no calls for “back up” in the traditional sense, they’re only going to help because they have to. They have no desire to help. ICE can’t even communicate with MPD. It would have to be a 911 call. When I said “backup,” I was referring to in the sense that either one of DHS’s officers or the public was in danger. You seem to be thinking that “backup” means helping ICE pickup some landscapers from the Home Depot. Quote
dogcows Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: Ok I’m done. I have no idea where you going with this now. I got in this to confirm there is no calls for “back up” in the traditional sense, they’re only going to help because they have to. They have no desire to help. ICE can’t even communicate with MPD. It would have to be a 911 call. MPD posted a website showing the history of regular cooperation with DHS. DHS decided to burn that bridge; we all can see that plainly by them refusing to let MPD investigate when they killed a Minnesota resident in Minnesota. You’re getting it twisted. Quote
dogcows Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Look, the National Guard shows how to work WITH the people of Minnesota. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted January 26 Posted January 26 2 hours ago, dogcows said: What Party currently controls the presidency and Congress? This is Trump’s America. Blaming democrats for the actions of your own guy is as brainless as it gets. You support a bunch of lawless savages. Your party funds these savage as part of their never ending quest to cause unrest. 1 Quote
Fireballer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 10 minutes ago, dogcows said: MPD posted a website showing the history of regular cooperation with DHS. DHS decided to burn that bridge; we all can see that plainly by them refusing to let MPD investigate when they killed a Minnesota resident in Minnesota. You’re getting it twisted. You don’t understand what I’m talking about. Quote
Fireballer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Where’s MPD??? They said they would be there for damage to property!!! Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Where’s MPD??? They said they would be there for damage to property!!! Well I guess this might be why that Hilton property didn’t want them staying there Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 17 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Where’s MPD??? They said they would be there for damage to property!!! This hotel might be in Bloomington, not Minneapolis Quote
Fireballer Posted January 26 Posted January 26 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This hotel might be in Bloomington, not Minneapolis Sorry, I guess I shouldn’t assume “Downtown Minneapolis” in the tweet actually means ”Downtown Minneapolis” Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 33 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Sorry, I guess I shouldn’t assume “Downtown Minneapolis” in the tweet actually means ”Downtown Minneapolis” Well you shouldn’t automatically assume random x posters are telling the truth. Doesn’t look like downtown to me, where are the rest of the city buildings? Could be in a different part of Minneapolis though. Actually it looks like it might be “University Area.” But I did see that there had previously been protests at the Home2 in Bloomington. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted January 26 Posted January 26 25 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well you shouldn’t automatically assume random x posters are telling the truth. Doesn’t look like downtown to me, where are the rest of the city buildings? Could be in a different part of Minneapolis though. Actually it looks like it might be “University Area.” But I did see that there had previously been protests at the Home2 in Bloomington. Idiot Quote
easilyscan Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Idiot Too kind Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Idiot I’m about 99% sure that is the Home2 University Area, which is not downtown. The x poster was not correct Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Idiot Btw your favorite source thinks that hotel is in St Paul. They are also not correct Quote
TimHauck Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: Where’s MPD??? They said they would be there for damage to property!!! MPD is there https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/us-news/anti-ice-protesters-swarm-st-paul-hotel-they-believe-is-housing-fed-agents/ Quote
Gepetto Posted January 26 Posted January 26 https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6997720/2026/01/25/alan-page-ice-protests-minneapolis-social-media/ Quote
edjr Posted January 26 Posted January 26 No wonder people from Minnesota are so angry. Sam Darnold has been playing his red hair off Quote
Drizzay Posted January 26 Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, edjr said: No wonder people from Minnesota are so angry. Sam Darnold has been playing his red hair off It's our consolation for never playing in the Super Bowl again. This year, we either get Darnold winning or we get Diggs winning! Quote
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