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paid 4.39 at bjs yesterday for premium. usually around 30 to 50 cents less than regular places

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I have to go look, but I don’t even think we’re at three dollars here in Iowa.
 

And again, liberals complaining about gas prices is pretty hilarious considering the previous administration did everything it could to kill off cars that took gasoline with your Greene new bullshiit plans that have been a disaster

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10 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

I have to go look, but I don’t even think we’re at three dollars here in Iowa.
 

And again, liberals complaining about gas prices is pretty hilarious considering the previous administration did everything it could to kill off cars that took gasoline with your Greene new bullshiit plans that have been a disaster

Avg gas price in Iowa is 3.28, but what do electric cars have to with higher gas prices now?

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15 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

I have to go look, but I don’t even think we’re at three dollars here in Iowa.
 

And again, liberals complaining about gas prices is pretty hilarious considering the previous administration did everything it could to kill off cars that took gasoline with your Greene new bullshiit plans that have been a disaster

They can complain some but depends where they live.  California Dems complaining of gas prices always makes me laugh.  Well when its directed at a Republican president and never their own politicians that want their gas high no matter what.  

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14 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Avg gas price in Iowa is 3.28, but what do electric cars have to with higher gas prices now?

Oil operates off speculation. If you have an administration doing all, they can to kill off an industry it certainly not going to make prices go down. 
 

Or you can reverse this and tell me how advocating the removal of combustion engines, reduction of gas overall and increased regulation make prices go down im all ears

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9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

They can complain some but depends where they live.  California Dems complaining of gas prices always makes me laugh.  Well when its directed at a Republican president and never their own politicians that want their gas high no matter what.  

So true and a good example. California has really really done all that can to stop gas. I’m not even sure how much they drill in California anymore, but I know I saw a thing not long ago. Were there trying to prevent Trump from putting rigs out there? 

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8 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Oil operates off speculation. If you have an administration doing all, they can to kill off an industry it certainly not going to make prices go down. 
 

Or you can reverse this and tell me how advocating the removal of combustion engines, reduction of gas overall and increased regulation make prices go down im all ears

Speculation drives prices.  When a situation happens, oil price goes up overnight, even though all the oil at the stations and refineries was already bought and paid for at lower prices.

The oil that is being blocked right now would not even be near the states yet.  By the time is it delivered to refineries and ready to be shipped to gas stations that oil would not be ready to pump until June.

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1 minute ago, Mike Hunt said:

Speculation drives prices.  When a situation happens, oil price goes up overnight, even though all the oil at the stations and refineries was already bought and paid for at lower prices.

The oil that is being blocked right now would not even be near the states yet.  By the time is it delivered to refineries and ready to be shipped to gas stations that oil would not be ready to pump until June.

Of course, but I’m referring more globally as a philosophy. Biden‘s administration did all it could to kill it off, which certainly is not going to help prices go down. 
 

That’s why I was saying it’s pretty rich for them now to complain about gas prices that are still far lower than when Biden left when it’s not something their party even wanted anyway

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4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Of course, but I’m referring more globally as a philosophy. Biden‘s administration did all it could to kill it off, which certainly is not going to help prices go down. 
 

That’s why I was saying it’s pretty rich for them now to complain about gas prices that are still far lower than when Biden left when it’s not something their party even wanted anyway

Agree.  Biden wanted higher gas prices to drive the EV agenda.

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5 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Of course, but I’m referring more globally as a philosophy. Biden‘s administration did all it could to kill it off, which certainly is not going to help prices go down. 
 

That’s why I was saying it’s pretty rich for them now to complain about gas prices that are still far lower than when Biden left when it’s not something their party even wanted anyway

My search spit out that nationally gas is around 90 cents a gallon more today than last Jan.

Jet fuel prices have almost doubled in past month.

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29 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Oil operates off speculation. If you have an administration doing all, they can to kill off an industry it certainly not going to make prices go down. 
 

Or you can reverse this and tell me how advocating the removal of combustion engines, reduction of gas overall and increased regulation make prices go down im all ears

Allow me explain to you the concept of supply and demand and how it affects price.  The price of gas has increased since the start of the Trump war.  This is due to the supply shock the world has caused.  Lower supplier, demand unchanged, price goes up.

Now, let's say that we all have these electric cars in our garages, we see the price of gas and decide we're not going to pay it we will just use our electrics.  That results in a decreased of demand which will then lower prices.

So in practice more electric cars means lower demand for gas which means lower prices.  You have it backwards.

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2 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Allow me explain to you the concept of supply and demand and how it affects price.  The price of gas has increased since the start of the Trump war.  This is due to the supply shock the world has caused.  Lower supplier, demand unchanged, price goes up.

Now, let's say that we all have these electric cars in our garages, we see the price of gas and decide we're not going to pay it we will just use our electrics.  That results in a decreased of demand which will then lower prices.

So in practice more electric cars means lower demand for gas which means lower prices.  You have it backwards.

JFC the arrogance. 100% electric is never going to happen. The goal wasn’t that because they know it was unachievable, but they still could financially make it a burden if you wanted to keep gas and that’s what they tried to do. Those things are not mutually exclusive. 
So when prices go down, it has nothing to do with Trump. But suddenly a war and it’s 100% his fault even though the amount of oil hasn’t changed. People have posted here that their gas prices are not astronomical.

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National Averages

                    Regular	    Mid-Grade	   Premium	    Diesel	    E85
Current Avg.	    $4.018	    $4.541	    $4.904	    $5.454	    $3.149
Yesterday Avg.	    $3.990	    $4.503	    $4.872	    $5.416	    $3.137
Week Ago Avg.	    $3.977	    $4.485	    $4.853	    $5.345	    $3.150
Month Ago Avg.	    $2.982	    $3.489	    $3.857	    $3.758	    $2.324
Year Ago Avg.	    $3.168	    $3.631	    $3.991	    $3.598	    $2.602

For regular, It is $3.99 mostly in my area...  Some $4.19 and one place that loves to have high prices is at $4.96...

Thanks Trump...

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2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

JFC the arrogance. 100% electric is never going to happen. The goal wasn’t that because they know it was unachievable, but they still could financially make it a burden if you wanted to keep gas and that’s what they tried to do. Those things are not mutually exclusive. 
So when prices go down, it has nothing to do with Trump. But suddenly a war and it’s 100% his fault even though the amount of oil hasn’t changed. People have posted here that their gas prices are not astronomical.

If Biden wanted to make gas prices higher he could have taxed it or reduced the oil production of the US.  He did neither.

The rise of gas prices now is directly attributable to his war and the price of oil.  Arguing different is a stark display of ignorance.

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2 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Gasoline was $1.96 the week before election day 2024.  It is now $3.27 and rising quickly.

Annual averages (regular gasoline, EIA-based):

  2021: ~$3.01–$3.09

  2022: ~$3.95–$4.06 (highest annual average on record)

  2023: ~$3.52–$3.63

  2024: ~$3.30–$3.43

  Overall term average: Approximately $3.45–$3.60 per gallon across Biden’s four years, the highest for any full presidential term in modern U.S. history (nominal dollars).
 

 

I’ll also note this is a temporary raise in prices that’s done defending allies and removing a major sponsor of terror. Gas prices under Biden were the result of his policies and nothing else. 
 

It’s a little comical to even try to compare them as if they are on the same playing field

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3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

If Biden wanted to make gas prices higher he could have taxed it or reduced the oil production of the US.  He did neither.

The rise of gas prices now is directly attributable to his war and the price of oil.  Arguing different is a stark display of ignorance.

His inflation reduction act, absolutely tacked on fees and or taxes to gas, and that is easily verified. 

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24 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Annual averages (regular gasoline, EIA-based):

  2021: ~$3.01–$3.09

  2022: ~$3.95–$4.06 (highest annual average on record)

  2023: ~$3.52–$3.63

  2024: ~$3.30–$3.43

  Overall term average: Approximately $3.45–$3.60 per gallon across Biden’s four years, the highest for any full presidential term in modern U.S. history (nominal dollars).
 

 

I’ll also note this is a temporary raise in prices that’s done defending allies and removing a major sponsor of terror. Gas prices under Biden were the result of his policies and nothing else. 
 

It’s a little comical to even try to compare them as if they are on the same playing field

Gas prices largely spiked under Biden because of post Covid and because of Ukraine war. 

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6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Gas prices largely spiked under Biden because of post Covid and because of Ukraine war. 

Ahhhh…. so just if we’re scoring home, Biden gets a pass in an enormous amount of grace because he funded a losing war we were not remotely involved in. Trump gets no grace because he’s in a war with people actually actively constantly trying to kill us and our allies.

 

come….the….fock….on.

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25 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said:

Please verify that for me.

Lol I have to verify your incorrect assertion? Are you joking? 
 

The inflation act raised a couple taxes on gas like the “methane tax” and some other waste related that wasn’t directly tied to oil, but to the production, which then did increase prices. I’m not saying it was astronomical by any stretch, but to say he wasn’t doing anything to make prices go higher is also incorrect.

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10 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Ahhhh…. so just if we’re scoring home, Biden gets a pass in an enormous amount of grace because he funded a losing war we were not remotely involved in. Trump gets no grace because he’s in a war with people actually actively constantly trying to kill us and our allies.

 

come….the….fock….on.

Biden didn’t get a pass for gas prices. It was talked about all the time. They were driven up largely by post Covid reopening and then Ukraine war. Your post shows that in the prices per year.

Trump in turn doesn’t get a pass for mismanaging this badly and having us in this spot.

Hopefully this can be unwound.

It’s ok to acknowledge these things. 

 

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44 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

His inflation reduction act, absolutely tacked on fees and or taxes to gas, and that is easily verified. 

The inflation reduction act caused inflation ironically enough, however gasoline tax's/fees has remained the same since Clinton or Reagan or something like that. 

This is easily verified. 

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11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Biden didn’t get a pass for gas prices. It was talked about all the time. They were driven up largely by post Covid reopening and then Ukraine war. Your post shows that in the prices per year.

Trump in turn doesn’t get a pass for mismanaging this badly and having us in this spot.

Hopefully this can be unwound.

It’s ok to acknowledge these things. 

 

This is revisionist history at its finest.

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1 hour ago, cyclone24 said:

Of course, but I’m referring more globally as a philosophy. Biden‘s administration did all it could to kill it off, which certainly is not going to help prices go down. 
 

That’s why I was saying it’s pretty rich for them now to complain about gas prices that are still far lower than when Biden left when it’s not something their party even wanted anyway

 

Biden was a terrible president, however the rig count increased 50% from the first 2 years of his term to the last 2 years. The government at that time was not trying to kill off domestic oil production. 

 

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_enr_drill_s1_a.htm

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2 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

The inflation reduction act caused inflation ironically enough, however gasoline tax's/fees has remained the same since Clinton or Reagan or something like that. 

This is easily verified. 

The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) of 2022 included two main provisions that directly or indirectly imposed new costs on the oil and gas sector, with potential (though limited) pass-through effects on gasoline prices:

1. Reinstatement and Increase of the Hazardous Substance Superfund Excise Tax on Petroleum

  This revived a long-expired excise tax on domestic crude oil received at U.S. refineries and on imported petroleum products.

  Rate: 16.4 cents per barrel (indexed for inflation thereafter), effective January 1, 2023. (For context, the prior expired rate was 9.7 cents per barrel.)
 

 

uh huh

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