Charlie Kirk was just shot

[squistion]

17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

This is the USA, gentlemen. We're ALL supposed to be anti-fascist, no?

I'm not claiming antifa doesn't exist. But it's not an organization per se. And most of those that would claim to be antifa, IMO, are just borderline sociopaths that get kicks out of focking things up. Antifa is just a convenient label for a bunch of mooks that are really closer to anarcho-nihilists in behavior. Again, IMO.

Exactly. Antifa is just a bunch of loosely connected anarchists with no formal association and their agenda is anti-facism.

[Ron_Artest]

One of the casings said " if you read this, you're gay LMAO ". Sounds like a geek club righty

[Fnord]

7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

we are, but antifa uses fascism to push their fake narrative, authoritarianism and physical and verbal intimidation.  get in line or be punished by death if necessary if you oppose

 

Sure. I would appreciate it if you could show me some evidence that they are a true threat, as opposed to opportunistic criminals that make a convenient boogeyman for the right. You said your mom was antifa (or adjacent). What does it mean to her? Does she communicate with others? Attend meetings, have text chains?

Re: the bolded, many of your rightie bedfellows have advocated for exactly this in the wake of Kirk's murder. Doesn't matter who the message comes from if the message is evil to begin with.

[Maximum Overkill]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Sure. I would appreciate it if you could show me some evidence that they are a true threat

Jesus fuking Christ, for real??? 

Y'all blame them everyday for the BLM riots. So who was it, BLM or Transtifa??? 

[Fnord]

Just now, Maximum Overkill said:

Jesus fuking Christ, for real??? 

Y'all blame them everyday for the BLM riots. So who was it, BLM or Transtifa??? 

You asked me earlier to put you back on ignore. That's where you are. I'm done with your bullshit today.

[Maximum Overkill]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

You asked me earlier to put you back on ignore. That's where you are. I'm done with your bullshit today.

FINALLY, 

WHEN LIBS ARE CORNERED, THEY HIDE  

[Horseman]

29 minutes ago, Fnord said:

 

This is the USA, gentlemen. We're ALL supposed to be anti-fascist, no?

JFC

[Horseman]

13 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Right, didn’t mean to suggest you didn’t. I have family in Spain so I know it from civil war history there. I’m just adding that Robinson did not get it from that context. He got it from a video game.

Link?

Never mind, we all know you either heard that on Twitter or fabricated it in your mind. 

[Fnord]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

FINALLY, 

WHEN LIBS ARE CORNERED, THEY HIDE  

Nah. I'm just tired of having a one-sided conversation with the human equivalent of a moldy piece of drywall.

God bless and have a great weekend.

[Horseman]

6 minutes ago, Fnord said:

You asked me earlier to put you back on ignore. That's where you are. I'm done with your bullshit today.

Weakling.  

[Horseman]

6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

“It was one of us.”

- Gov.Cox.

An American. No chit Sherlock. 

[jonnyutah]

11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

“It was one of us.”

- Gov.Cox.

My god. I never realized what a pile of guano you are. 

[SaintsInDome2006]

7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Link?

Never mind, we all know you either heard that on Twitter or fabricated it in your mind. 

I’ve given you two links.

[SaintsInDome2006]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

An American. No chit Sherlock. 

Oh I see… ok I’ll delete it.

[TheNewGirl]

Might be a moon landing, but I read that he threatened to kill himself after his father confronted him. Father recognized him from the FBI photos and videos. Then father convinced him to meet with the youth minister, who doubles as a US Marshall Fugitive Task Force officer. 

Oof. 

I am sure that the two of them together really made sure to talk to this kid before turning him in. 

[TimHauck]

53 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

bella ciao, the comment you mentioned, the police reports him telling family Charlie Kirk spread hate, you will not find a single other "republican" to make that claim

occams razor

Saying Charlie Kirk spreads hate is antifa ideology?

[jonnyutah]

Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Wait, what’s wrong here exactly?

Oh dont play dumb. You know exactly what your agenda was. 

First you have dropped several statements trying to argue that he was right wing. Even using the wrong tyler Robinson. 

Then in the middle of the back and forth over right wing vs left wing you casually drop a snippet from the republican governor saying he was one of us. 

Oh i get it, the ole routine of but i put the link, i put the link. No no I am not lke that. I am just dumb and didnt see the obvious. 

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

1 minute ago, jonnyutah said:

Oh dont play dumb. You know exactly what your agenda was. 

First you have dropped several statements trying to argue that he was right wing. Even using the wrong tyler Robinson. 

Then in the middle of the back and forth over right wing vs left wing you casually drop a snippet from the republican governor saying he was one of us. 

Oh i get it, the ole routine of but i put the link, i put the link. No no I am not lke that. I am just dumb and didnt see the obvious. 

 

I got it now. I deleted it. Take care.

[Hawkeye21]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Saying Charlie Kirk spreads hate is antifa ideology?

Kirk didn't really spread hate.  People just hated what he had to say.  He didn't really say hateful things, he said things people hated to hear.  If that makes sense.

[TimHauck]

41 minutes ago, jonnyutah said:

Hahahaha. You brought up somethjng from 2004 after i brought up stuff from 2024. As usual, you are not a serious poster. Tried hard to get a gotcha, failed miserably, refused to acknowledge facts. 

Sad little man behavior as usual. 

But I will say...you are consistent. Hahahahahaha.

Lol.  One thing from 2004.  Which is a lot more relevant of course for a middle aged man than a 22-year old.

By “stuff,” you mean some flyers in his car and that one of the two politicians he shot voted once in a way that most Dems wouldn’t?  That’s not serious.

Boelter’s roommate said he was a Trump supporter and hater of Biden and Pelosi in 2025.  Boelter’s list in 2025 included only Democrats. 

[Ron_Artest]

16 minutes ago, Horseman said:

An American. No chit Sherlock. 

No, a utahian, or whatever they call themselves.

[TimHauck]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Kirk didn't really spread hate.  People just hated what he had to say.  He didn't really say hateful things, he said things people hated to hear.  If that makes sense.

He spread hate.  Most commonly from what I saw against Muslims.

….but again, didn’t deserve to die for it.

[Hawkeye21]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

He spread hate.  Most commonly from what I saw against Muslims.

….but again, didn’t deserve to die for it.

He didn't though.  Just because people didn't like what he had to say doesn't mean he spread hate.  He debated with people and backed up his stance with stats and educated information.  He allowed for open discussion.  The problem was that others didn't want to hear it.

[jerryskids]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I have no quibble with you, sir. Thankfully, we are all safe and unaffected by all this. There will be no civil discord, no reaping, no retribution. Let’s get on with the weekend.

I live a few miles from Turning Points headquarters.    

I thought about driving past there but... then thought better of it.

[Horseman]

15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Oh I see… ok I’ll delete it.

That's 3 times now your TDS duped you. Maybe take a break and look in the mirror.  

[Horseman]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

No, a utahian, or whatever they call themselves.

You can't read either.  

[Ron_Artest]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Kirk didn't really spread hate.  People just hated what he had to say.  He didn't really say hateful things, he said things people hated to hear.  If that makes sense.

You could argue that saying the civil rights act was a mistake is hateful.

[weepaws]

Good for you Erika Kirk, she is posting bible scriptures, and a pic of her in the backseat of a vehicle holding out the window a cross. Faith. 

[Ron_Artest]

6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He didn't though.  Just because people didn't like what he had to say doesn't mean he spread hate.  He debated with people and backed up his stance with stats and educated information.  He allowed for open discussion.  The problem was that others didn't want to hear it.

Can you share an example of someone who does spread hate, for reference?

[SaintsInDome2006]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I live a few miles from Turning Points headquarters.    

I thought about driving past there but... then thought better of it.

Apparently they just evacuated the Robinson family home & cleared the perimeter.

[Hawkeye21]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

You could argue that saying the civil rights act was a mistake is hateful.

Not when you listen to everything he said.  When you take it out of context, like the majority of people do, then it sounds very hateful.  Most people who hate him have never listened to him other than the clips they see on social media without context.

I myself have never liked him much and have always thought of him as a douche bag but I respected him.  He was very smart and articulate.  I was very impressed with his debating skills.  The man never even went to college for it, he was just a natural.

[Hawkeye21]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Can you share an example of someone who does spread hate, for reference?

Trump

[supermike80]

22 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Might be a moon landing, but I read that he threatened to kill himself after his father confronted him. Father recognized him from the FBI photos and videos. Then father convinced him to meet with the youth minister, who doubles as a US Marshall Fugitive Task Force officer. 

Oof. 

I am sure that the two of them together really made sure to talk to this kid before turning him in. 

Wow

[weepaws]

How great this country could have been if Charlie Kirk could have been the next president after criminal trump. 

[Hawkeye21]

1 minute ago, weepaws said:

How great this country could have been if Charlie Kirk could have been the next president after criminal trump. 

It wouldn't been just as bad, if not worse.  Far too many people hated him.

[jonnyutah]

1 minute ago, weepaws said:

How great this country could have been if Charlie Kirk could have been the next president after criminal trump. 

You mean after 8 years of vance.

Oh yeah. It is happening. 

[Gepetto]

 

[TimHauck]

29 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He didn't though.  Just because people didn't like what he had to say doesn't mean he spread hate.  He debated with people and backed up his stance with stats and educated information.  He allowed for open discussion.  The problem was that others didn't want to hear it.

He did.  I said before that I don’t have an issue with what I’ve seen from his college debates.  But his x account was probably one of the most divisive out there among those with a million+ followers.  Just one of the first examples I see.  Saying a Muslim mayor is one of the biggest threats to our country is hateful.  He posted about 9/11 and Mamdani in the same tweet to imply that people shouldn’t vote for Mamdani because of 9/11.  He was careful with his words so he always had plausible deniability, but he was definitely hateful

 

…but again, didn’t deserve to die for it.

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour]

So who are the fascists here in the USA that antifa is against? 

[Hawkeye21]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He did.  I said before that I don’t have an issue with what I’ve seen from his college debates.  But his x account was probably one of the most divisive out there among those with a million+ followers.  Just one of the first examples I see.  Saying a Muslim mayor is one of the biggest threats to our country is hateful.  He posted about 9/11 and Mamdani in the same tweet to imply that people shouldn’t vote for Mamdani because of 9/11.  He was careful with his words so he always had plausible deniability, but he was definitely hateful

 

…but again, didn’t deserve to die for it.

 

 

Meh.  I don't find it all that hateful.  Socialism is one of the biggest threats to our country as well.