ANOTHER case of ICE not giving due process

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

 

[Ron_Artest 3,077]

 

 

[Frozenbeernuts 2,565]

I keep hearing this insane belief that Biden had this super amazing bill all lined up that was better than a wall. Because it wasn't passed, all of the illegals came through.

That of course conveniently skips over the logic that because Biden didn't get his super amazing border bill passed, he not only abandoned guarding the border, but he also aided people cross it.

Weird.

[dogcows 1,621]

3 hours ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

 

I’ve been through tougher snowball fights before I turned 10. 

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

2 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I keep hearing this insane belief that Biden had this super amazing bill all lined up that was better than a wall.

The bill was largely written by Sen. James Lankford, OK-R.

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

 

[weepaws 3,502]

Starving people, lying to people, killing people, violence, people losing jobs, prices not getting more affordable.  America losing 

[dogcows 1,621]

Remember the ICE raid in Chicago that DHS made videos of, claiming they “got” Tren de Aragua gangbangers?

It had literally NOTHING to do with that gang. Yet again, the administration gets caught blatantly lying as they used immigration agents illegally.

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/06/nx-s1-5703603/court-records-chicago-immigration-raid-was-about-squatters-not-venezuelan-gangs

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But arrest records for two of the men show the government's stated reason for the raid was to take out squatters, not gang members. The documents were included in a motion filed in an ongoing case challenging warrantless arrests in Chicago.  

In the documents, DHS stated "this operation was based on intelligence that there were illegal aliens unlawfully occupying apartments in the building." There is no mention of criminal gangs or Tren de Aragua.

The records confirm "the worst thoughts that we had about the operation," Mark Fleming, the associate director of federal litigation at the National Immigrant Justice Center, told NPR.

 

[seafoam1 3,712]

2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Remember the ICE raid in Chicago that DHS made videos of, claiming they “got” Tren de Aragua gangbangers?

It had literally NOTHING to do with that gang. Yet again, the administration gets caught blatantly lying as they used immigration agents illegally.

https://www.npr.org/2026/02/06/nx-s1-5703603/court-records-chicago-immigration-raid-was-about-squatters-not-venezuelan-gangs

 

NPR. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,470]

Tren De Aragua are made up. None of them ever came here. Right dog cows? 

[Ron_Artest 3,077]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Tren De Aragua are made up. None of them ever came here. Right dog cows? 

You like being lied to.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,470]

9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

You like being lied to.

You too. See, if you were a reasonable man, you would say DHS is exaggerating their presence, and I would be inclined to agree. But to completely deny it is another indication of the TDS that blinds you. 

[Ron_Artest 3,077]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You too. See, if you were a reasonable man, you would say DHS is exaggerating their presence, and I would be inclined to agree. But to completely deny it is another indication of the TDS that blinds you. 

What are you talking about?  The article is about the goal of the operation.  They lied.  You believe every lie.  You need to be lied to.

[dogcows 1,621]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

What are you talking about?  The article is about the goal of the operation.  They lied.  You believe every lie.  You need to be lied to.

It would be an “exaggeration“ if they said they got a dozen gang members and got only 3-4.

But they got ZERO and it was shown that they KNEW there weren’t any gangbangers there to begin with. That’s not exaggeration, that’s lying.

[Ron_Artest 3,077]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

It would be an “exaggeration“ if they said they got a dozen gang members and got only 3-4.

But they got ZERO and it was shown that they KNEW there weren’t any gangbangers there to begin with. That’s not exaggeration, that’s lying.

I think turdcore is hitting the sauce tonight.

[TimHauck 3,662]

38 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Tren De Aragua are made up. None of them ever came here. Right dog cows? 

Tren de Aragua isn’t made up.  “Cartel of the Suns” might be though 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,470]

Everytime Tren De Argua is brought up democrats say it’s not true. So ya just get tuned out. 

[weepaws 3,502]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I think turdcore is hitting the sauce tonight.

Better than its kids.  They need to be rescued. 

[Ron_Artest 3,077]

4 hours ago, weepaws said:

Better than its kids.  They need to be rescued. 

Hadn't heard this before but makes sense.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,470]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Hadn't heard this before but makes sense.

Heard what? 

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Everytime Tren De Argua is brought up democrats say it’s not true. So ya just get tuned out. 

Democrats didn’t say the victims were not TdA, the DoJ said it.

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

>>>But court records obtained by the Guardian reveal a Department of Justice prosecutor later directly contradicted DHS’s Tren de Aragua statements in court, telling a judge: “We’re not suggesting … [Niño-Moncada] is a gang member.” An FBI affidavit issued following the incident also suggests that in the previous shooting cited by DHS, Zambrano-Contreras was not a suspect, but rather a reported victim of a sexual assault and robbery. Neither Niño-Moncada or Zambrano-Contreras have prior criminal convictions, their lawyers have said.

Niño-Moncada, the 33-year-old driver, who is undocumented, remains detained, facing charges of aggravated assault of an officer based on claims he tried to “intentionally” hit agents with his car. Zambrano-Contreras, 32, was not criminally charged, but has pleaded guilty to improper entry to the US, a misdemeanor. Prosecutors have said the two were dating.

… 

The FBI’s affidavit alleged that Niño-Moncada later “admitted to intentionally ramming the Border Patrol vehicle in an attempt to flee”.

Last week, prosecutors disclosed in court that investigators have since obtained surveillance footage partially showing the incident. The video was not made public in court filings, but KGW, a local station, obtained and published it on Monday.

The grainy footage, taken from a distance and with no sound, does not clearly capture the encounter. It shows agents following what appears to be Niño-Moncada’s truck in the parking lot and then approaching him. He appears to maneuver the car and drive off, though the moment of the shooting is not clearly visible.

Sergio Perez, a civil rights lawyer and former US prosecutor, said it was alarming the government filed charges two days after the incident while acknowledging it was still seeking video: “This government needs to go back to the practice of slow and thorough investigations rather than what we consistently see in immigration enforcement activities – which is a rush to smear individuals.”

Niño-Moncada’s public defenders have rejected claims he intended to hit officers, noting the complaint failed to identify any specific agent who believed they were going to be hit. Niño-Moncada was likely in a “frightened” state, the attorneys argued in court filings, given the “climate of abject terror” for immigrants: “Anyone who looks like Mr Niño-Moncada would wonder: if shooting someone who looks like Ms Good is acceptable, what can they do to someone who looks like me?” the lawyers wrote. …<<<

Guardian

 

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

This thread started with an incident in which a man stopped while driving by Immigration/Customs/Border Patrol in Illinois was shot dead after he tried to drive off. That’s what is repeatedly happening, people are shot dead for trying to flee.

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

On 1/16/2026 at 7:04 AM, seafoam1 said:

Yeah, 3 guys beating an agent, one was hitting him in the head with a shovel, and in the eyes of a libtard, they don't report that part. 

Now it turns out - per the FBI & DOJ - the victim in the “shovel” incident was 10 feet away & fleeing.

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

>>

At the apartment building, an ICE officer trying to detain the car's driver was struck by him and Sosa-Celis with a broom – and a third man with a shovel – before the officer fired his weapon, the FBI affidavit said.

While DHS said initially that the officer “fired a defensive shot to defend his life” during the ambush, the FBI affidavit said the alleged attackers dropped the broom and shovel when they saw the officer draw his gun and were fleeing toward the apartment as he fired.<<<

 

Reuters

[TimHauck 3,662]

12 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

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At the apartment building, an ICE officer trying to detain the car's driver was struck by him and Sosa-Celis with a broom – and a third man with a shovel – before the officer fired his weapon, the FBI affidavit said.

While DHS said initially that the officer “fired a defensive shot to defend his life” during the ambush, the FBI affidavit said the alleged attackers dropped the broom and shovel when they saw the officer draw his gun and were fleeing toward the apartment as he fired.<<<

 

Reuters

In b4 a righty makes a joke about banning shovels 

[Strike 6,255]

In SID's world, "stopped while driving" is the new "driving while black "

[Strike 6,255]

14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

In b4 a righty makes a joke about banning shovels 

I'd rather ban illegals

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

In SID's world, "stopped while driving" is the new "driving while black "

My syntax could be better, I meant as opposed to ‘on the street’ which I didn’t think was clear. 

[Strike 6,255]

29 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Now it turns out - per the FBI & DOJ - the victim in the “shovel” incident was 10 feet away & fleeing.

Sounds like the victim is the one who fired the shot(s).

[dogcows 1,621]

35 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Now it turns out - per the FBI & DOJ - the victim in the “shovel” incident was 10 feet away & fleeing.

The original report couldn’t even decide if it was a shovel or a broom. It was highly suspect from the instant they reported it.

Sadly this is totally unsurprising at this point.

[SaintsInDome2006 985]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

Sounds like the victim is the one who fired the shot(s).

I hear you, but when he shot the man was 10 feet away, unarmed &  fleeing.

[Strike 6,255]

20 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I hear you, but when he shot the man was 10 feet away, unarmed &  fleeing.

And?  You hit me with a shovel you better run and PRAY I don't get a shot at you.  

[TimHauck 3,662]

57 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

>>

At the apartment building, an ICE officer trying to detain the car's driver was struck by him and Sosa-Celis with a broom – and a third man with a shovel – before the officer fired his weapon, the FBI affidavit said.

While DHS said initially that the officer “fired a defensive shot to defend his life” during the ambush, the FBI affidavit said the alleged attackers dropped the broom and shovel when they saw the officer draw his gun and were fleeing toward the apartment as he fired.<<<

 

Reuters

Maybe already posted, but some reports also say the shot was fired through a door, and the lawyer for the defendant claims the officer is under investigation for unnecessary use of force

https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/02/05/two-men-charged-with-assaulting-agents-in-ice-shooting-released-by-a-judge-re-detained-by-ice/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

[dogcows 1,621]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

And?  You hit me with a shovel you better run and PRAY I don't get a shot at you.  

You would shoot a man in the back for hitting you with a shovel?

ICE is hiring.

[Alias Detective 1,495]

2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You would shoot a man in the back for hitting you with a shovel?

ICE is hiring.

Yet drop the N word an a white guy deserves to be beaten.  Do better.

[dogcows 1,621]

1 minute ago, Alias Detective said:

Yet drop the N word an a white guy deserves to be beaten.  Do better.

I have no idea what this comment is even about. 

[Alias Detective 1,495]

Just now, dogcows said:

I have no idea what this comment is even about. 

Think harder.  

[TimHauck 3,662]

8 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You would shoot a man in the back for hitting you with a shovel?

ICE is hiring.

Got eem

[dogcows 1,621]

1 minute ago, Alias Detective said:

Think harder.  

Your dumb post won’t be made any more clear by my thoughts.

Nobody dropped the N word in here. So, maybe you’re just thinking about some weird fantasy in your brain. I’d ask you to share but I’m not sure I want to know.