This reminds me of why we didn’t get universal healthcare

[seafoam1 3,440]

On 11/11/2025 at 2:48 PM, peenie said:

 

Democrats suck ass. 

 

each other's ass. And yes. You all do. 

Go get  job. 

[Gepetto 1,454]

@peenie why do you want this so much?

[jerryskids 7,092]

5 hours ago, peenie said:

A better list would be per capita income. We can afford it. 

Sorry, but this is stupid in its simplicity.  Afford what?  Throwing money after things which don't address the systemic issues I listed? 

[jerryskids 7,092]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

There is no way for people with pre-existing conditions to pay the same as everyone else without eventually having universal healthcare. None. You know this. 

Well, I suppose I do, but what is your point in the context of this discussion?  

[seafoam1 3,440]

I have better than anything universal health care could provide. 

Thank God for that. 

[The Real timschochet 7,490]

35 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, I suppose I do, but what is your point in the context of this discussion?  

That we’re gonna end up with universal healthcare no matter what we do, because the public will never agree to going back to having folks with pre-existing conditions either be rejected or have to pay more. So all of the arguments against universal healthcare are irrelevant. We jumped the shark with ACA. There’s no going back. 

[jerryskids 7,092]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That we’re gonna end up with universal healthcare no matter what we do, because the public will never agree to going back to having folks with pre-existing conditions either be rejected or have to pay more. So all of the arguments against universal healthcare are irrelevant. We jumped the shark with ACA. There’s no going back. 

I appreciate your ignoring my post for the good of the Leftie cause, but thoughts on that post? 

[seafoam1 3,440]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

That we’re gonna end up with universal healthcare no matter what we do, because the public will never agree to going back to having folks with pre-existing conditions either be rejected or have to pay more. So all of the arguments against universal healthcare are irrelevant. We jumped the shark with ACA. There’s no going back. 

cool story. 

[peenie 1,970]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry, but this is stupid in its simplicity.  Afford what?  Throwing money after things which don't address the systemic issues I listed? 

OUR TAX DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT TO PROVIDE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Real timschochet 7,490]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I appreciate your ignoring my post for the good of the Leftie cause, but thoughts on that post? 

You mean the one where you argue that we have better healthcare than many nations with universal healthcare? No reason to disagree with that. But again it’s irrelevant. 

[peenie 1,970]

On 11/12/2025 at 7:34 PM, Voltaire said:

Having taught in both, I do think Chinese school are better than US ones overall but there are things Chinese schools get  wrong too. Those great academic results come at a cost of long school hours, combined with excessive homework. Low achiving kids are shamed which leads to stress and suicides and even high achievers experience burnout. Plus there is far more memorization than deep understanding and its regimented with everything taught from the same sources o there isn't much diversity of approaching problems.

On a personal level only two of my three kids excelled in the pressure cooker over there, but all three are top students over here, including my son, whose confidence was shattered. The kid's getting straight As here, like his sisters are, but China is willing to throw kids lie him to the wolves. They use brutal shame and humiliation tactics. The parents have the equivalent of a facebook group and with my girls' classes : who did great on the test, who got everything right on their math homework,  who are the class leaders who keep the kids in line and pass out papers and wear the little Young Pioneers badges (a pool that identifies future potential Communist Party members) and my two girls were often in this group. The flip side of that is we also learn... who didn't turn in homework, who was talking in class, who forgot their pencil, who failed the test... and there's the always same moping 8-10 dejected kids including quite frequently my son. It's why I pulled him out, put him in that accredited online school out of Kansas City, and became a homeschool dad for the last two years in China. Since the girls were temperamentally suited to dong well, I left them in the Chinese system.

The shaming doesn't end with school. Two people infected with COVID had fled Hunan and arrived in Panzhihua as the COVID crackdown was being put in place. One turned himself in to the authorities. The other evaded them, went shopping at the local mall, and eventually she infected nine other friends and family before they were all rounded up. The names and addresses of all eleven were posted online and known to the whole community. There was fear but also some sympathy for ten of them, but the college girl super spreader... such venom and rage.

Thank you for answering. You have 3 children??? Congratulations! I believe you've had another recently. A blessing!

A friend from Shanghai explained that the flaw he saw in U. S. teaching was the focus of at home learning (meaning homework or home resources-parental involvement). He said that the teachers really make the children learn the work in the classroom. That the teachers are drilling the subjects into the kids and leave little work for parents to do and that parental income or home life isn't a big influence on a child's success because the child isn't left to learn at home. He said almost all learning is happening in the classroom and that is why there is such discrepancies in the U. S. between schools and within students. I think Bush tried to address this with no child left behind (unsuccessfully). 

[seafoam1 3,440]

On 11/12/2025 at 10:29 PM, peenie said:

OUR TAX DOLLARS CAN BE SPENT TO PROVIDE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Why do you and people like you always demand other people to pay for your wants? 

And what's with all the yelling? Jeez.