TimHauck 3,642 Posted Monday at 11:28 AM 4 hours ago, BeenHereBefore said: This didn't even have the feel of a SB and seem like many people didn't even care about it. I bet lowest ratings in years when they come out. Doubt it, Patriots fans alone probably put it past other years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,446 Posted Monday at 11:48 AM The Patriots are now 6-7 in superbowls. Out of the the 13, 3 were duds, one was so-so and the other 9 were all really good. Not too bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,189 Posted Monday at 01:14 PM 10 hours ago, dogcows said: Embarrassing performance. NE forgot to cheat. sour grapes still look good on you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,189 Posted Monday at 01:15 PM 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The Patriots are now 6-7 in superbowls. Out of the the 13, 3 were duds, one was so-so and the other 9 were all really good. Not too bad. 86, 95 and this year they had no business being there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,189 Posted Monday at 01:17 PM 9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If you watched the whole season you knew NE was a mirage. They have work to do. yup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 1,247 Posted Monday at 02:21 PM Mark your calendars ladies, next year the Super Bowl is on Valentine's Day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 3,053 Posted Monday at 02:23 PM 2 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: Mark your calendars ladies, next year the Super Bowl is on Valentine's Day. And Monday is presidents day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,446 Posted Monday at 05:28 PM Amazing that nfl coaches (Vrabel) still can’t figure out when to go for two. Isn’t there a sheet to tell them? Meathead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeMatt 593 Posted Monday at 06:14 PM 3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: And Monday is presidents day! And a month from steak and bj day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,902 Posted Monday at 06:44 PM Bummed that the Pats didn't win, but even though the Steelers and Patriots both have six Super Bowl championships (since the NFL didn't apparently exist before the Super Bowl era), the Patriots still reached six titles time-wise before the Steelers... Steelers: First title (1974), first SB appearance (1974), sixth title (2008) - Took 34 years to win their sixth title (after winning their first) and 34 years since their first appearance Patriots: First title (2001), first SB appearance (1985), sixth title (2018) - Took 17 years to win their sixth title (after winning their first) and 33 years since their first appearance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,715 Posted yesterday at 02:36 AM 7 hours ago, posty said: Bummed that the Pats didn't win, but even though the Steelers and Patriots both have six Super Bowl championships (since the NFL didn't apparently exist before the Super Bowl era), the Patriots still reached six titles time-wise before the Steelers... Steelers: First title (1974), first SB appearance (1974), sixth title (2008) - Took 34 years to win their sixth title (after winning their first) and 34 years since their first appearance Patriots: First title (2001), first SB appearance (1985), sixth title (2018) - Took 17 years to win their sixth title (after winning their first) and 33 years since their first appearance But Steelers got to 6 first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,985 Posted 19 hours ago Pats draft OL, OL, WR, OL, OL, OL, OL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,693 Posted 19 hours ago 4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Pats draft OL, OL, WR, OL, OL, OL, OL Terrible year for offensive tackles in the draft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 664 Posted 19 hours ago 23 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The Patriots are now 6-7 in superbowls. Out of the the 13, 3 were duds, one was so-so and the other 9 were all really good. Not too bad. Actually, they're 6-6. They've only been to 12 SBs. But yeah, most of them have been good games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,985 Posted 19 hours ago 11 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Terrible year for offensive tackles in the draft. Hes young. But that was bad from Will Campbell. A top 5 OT getting whipped like that isnt a good sign rven if its early in his career. He may have to move inside. But they will need to come up with something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 3,053 Posted 18 hours ago 26 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Pats draft OL, OL, WR, OL, OL, OL, OL 8 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Hes young. But that was bad from Will Campbell. A top 5 OT getting whipped like that isnt a good sign rven if its early in his career. He may have to move inside. But they will need to come up with something. Pats offensive line isn't bad. They simply got out coached. Campbell was a top 5 pick and had a good season, he was the 12th best ranked tackle in pass defense. He had a bad postseason and his coach and QB didn't help him. Pff ranked the pats o line 11th. Many of those pressures should have been recognized by Maye but he failed, and mcDaniel didn't call enough plays to counter the pressure. McDonald' defense is great and it was the first time maye saw it and he got trounced. Sacks are not always the fault of the o line, QB and play calling contribute a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,693 Posted 18 hours ago 15 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Hes young. But that was bad from Will Campbell. A top 5 OT getting whipped like that isnt a good sign rven if its early in his career. He may have to move inside. But they will need to come up with something. Yeah. He'll be given another year to figure it out. See what he does. But 21 sacks in the post season? That's just stupid bad. Maybe they just froze up under the bright lights? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,985 Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Pats offensive line isn't bad. They simply got out coached. Campbell was a top 5 pick and had a good season, he was the 12th best ranked tackle in pass defense. He had a bad postseason and his coach and QB didn't help him. Pff ranked the pats o line 11th. Many of those pressures should have been recognized by Maye but he failed, and mcDaniel didn't call enough plays to counter the pressure. McDonald' defense is great and it was the first time maye saw it and he got trounced. Sacks are not always the fault of the o line, QB and play calling contribute a lot. He could be fine. But that was all time bad. It definitely raises concerns. Obviously sacks arent only on the OL. But did you watch the game? Getting dog walked into the QB isnt on the QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 602 Posted 16 hours ago - Seattle's gotta get a new O,C, (I hope they promote from within). - Franchise K9, then work out a longer term, meet in the middle deal. - Resign Shaheed, and there lesser FA's. (Don't resign Riq Woolen). - Skip FA as far as big money deal, new players are concerned. Keep the plenty of payroll in house. - Draft a CB round 1. RG round 2. And best BPA for Rd. 3,6,7. - Extend JSN and Witherspoon before the season starts. Don't even f around. Pay now while they have it. It'll stink for a couple years. Then by year 3 of the contracts. It'll be a bargain. And we'll see what happens from there. Eagles I think are gonna need to figure things out. Non of them like each other. I don't even think the coaches and players like each other. Cowboys are the Cowboys. Giants, Commanders are too young. Vikings are a mess. Bears are headed in the right direction, but still young. Sorry Packers, I just think the coach and QB are overrated. Lions might have missed there window. Panthers too young. Atlanta, I don't know wtf those guys are doing. Saints are too young. T.B. seems solid, but nothing scary. Rams, gonna be a problem for another year minimum. 49ers, I think just gotta start over. I like the coach, and they'll be back. But gotta get younger and break up the band. Cardinals, should just give up. Rams. I'll see you next year for a NFCC rematch. Hopefully the outcome is the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 3,053 Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said: He could be fine. But that was all time bad. It definitely raises concerns. Obviously sacks arent only on the OL. But did you watch the game? Getting dog walked into the QB isnt on the QB. Yes I watched the game and there were some bad plays by the OL but not all of them, and that doesn't negate the success they saw during the entire season nor does it necessitate drafting an entire new line. During the post season they saw a murderers row of pass rush and they were not ready for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,985 Posted 15 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Yes I watched the game and there were some bad plays by the OL but not all of them, and that doesn't negate the success they saw during the entire season nor does it necessitate drafting an entire new line. During the post season they saw a murderers row of pass rush and they were not ready for it. They will definitely do some work this offseason on the OL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red White and Blue 122 Posted 15 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Kopy said: - Seattle's gotta get a new O,C, (I hope they promote from within). - Franchise K9, then work out a longer term, meet in the middle deal. - Resign Shaheed, and there lesser FA's. (Don't resign Riq Woolen). - Skip FA as far as big money deal, new players are concerned. Keep the plenty of payroll in house. - Draft a CB round 1. RG round 2. And best BPA for Rd. 3,6,7. - Extend JSN and Witherspoon before the season starts. Don't even f around. Pay now while they have it. It'll stink for a couple years. Then by year 3 of the contracts. It'll be a bargain. And we'll see what happens from there. Eagles I think are gonna need to figure things out. Non of them like each other. I don't even think the coaches and players like each other. Cowboys are the Cowboys. Giants, Commanders are too young. Vikings are a mess. Bears are headed in the right direction, but still young. Sorry Packers, I just think the coach and QB are overrated. Lions might have missed there window. Panthers too young. Atlanta, I don't know wtf those guys are doing. Saints are too young. T.B. seems solid, but nothing scary. Rams, gonna be a problem for another year minimum. 49ers, I think just gotta start over. I like the coach, and they'll be back. But gotta get younger and break up the band. Cardinals, should just give up. Rams. I'll see you next year for a NFCC rematch. Hopefully the outcome is the same. Congrats on your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,189 Posted 7 hours ago check out the security guard that gave him a nice knee to the ribs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites