Ron_Artest Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Heartbreaking https://www.propublica.org/article/ice-dilley-children-letters “Since I got to this Center all you will feel is sadness and mostly depression.” “I don’t want to be in this place I want to go to my school.” “One of the things that I could complain about is that they don’t have varied food and it’s almost the same and it bores me that it takes away my appetite” “I feel so much sadness and depression of not being able to leave, its really sad to hear that peoples cases are being denied and getting send back to their countrys.” “More than 60 days … going to the doctor and that the only thing they tell you is to drink more water and the worst thing is that it seems the water is what makes people sick here.” “Me in dilei [Dilley] am not happy please get me out of here to colombia.” 7 Quote
WhiteWonder Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Very well written for a child. If it is indeed a child, he/she/they should probably address it to their parents 1 Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 18 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: Very well written for a child. If it is indeed a child, he/she/they should probably address it to their parents Is that what we're going with? These are fakes? Written by George Soros? Quote
WhiteWonder Posted February 10 Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Is that what we're going with? These are fakes? Written by George Soros? Not fake but likely told what to write and what words to use. either way should be addressed to the parents who brought them here illegally. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: Not fake but likely told what to write and what words to use. either way should be addressed to the parents who brought them here illegally. So it's the parents fault for trying to give their kids a better life. Now I think I've heard it all. The depths you scum will go to defend this sh1t is appalling. Quote
Strike Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Just now, Ron_Artest said: So it's the parents fault for trying to give their kids a better life. Now I think I've heard it all. The depths you scum will go to defend this sh1t is appalling. If I break in to Paris Hilton's house because I want a better life it's my own damn fault when she has me removed. If I bring my kids it's my own damn fault when she has them removed 1 Quote
WhiteWonder Posted February 10 Posted February 10 8 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: So it's the parents fault for trying to give their kids a better life. Yup. And you’ve heard it before if you do something illegal and involve your kids . Pretty simple 1 Quote
weepaws Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Woman murder their unborn babies, many times, one of the reasons given, they couldn’t do right to the children, so instead they made the decision to take its life, doing wrong isn’t the better move for a child. Illegal actions do not better the life of a child, just like murder doesn’t either. 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Bidens policy was the direct cause of a young girl being gang raped and murdered under a bridge and tossed aside as if she were rubbish. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Bidens policy was the direct cause of a young girl being gang raped and murdered under a bridge and tossed aside as if she were rubbish. Why do you keep using this poor girls tragic death to make political points and justify barbaric behavior against innocent kids? Have you no shame? 2 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 10 Posted February 10 17 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Why do you keep using this poor girls tragic death to make political points and justify barbaric behavior against innocent kids? Have you no shame? Say her name and I won’t bring it up again. Quote
NorthernVike Posted February 10 Posted February 10 4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said: Heartbreaking https://www.propublica.org/article/ice-dilley-children-letters “Since I got to this Center all you will feel is sadness and mostly depression.” “I don’t want to be in this place I want to go to my school.” “One of the things that I could complain about is that they don’t have varied food and it’s almost the same and it bores me that it takes away my appetite” “I feel so much sadness and depression of not being able to leave, its really sad to hear that peoples cases are being denied and getting send back to their countrys.” “More than 60 days … going to the doctor and that the only thing they tell you is to drink more water and the worst thing is that it seems the water is what makes people sick here.” “Me in dilei [Dilley] am not happy please get me out of here to colombia.” Where is your outrage for the millions of babies killed by abortions? You focking hack. Quote
dogcows Posted February 10 Posted February 10 4 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: Yup. And you’ve heard it before if you do something illegal and involve your kids . Pretty simple This is the official position of the heartless scumbag party. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Who do you libtards blame when Muslims use their kids as human shields? Quote
WhiteWonder Posted February 10 Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, dogcows said: This is the official position of the heartless scumbag party. it's really not. That's what you want to label it, because... virtue signaling... but how exactly is it heartless? It's called responsibility. When I was a kid, if my mother and father decided to rob a bank together and went to prison, I wouldn't expect to go to prison with one of them but i WOULD expect to be separated from my parents and sent to live with grandparents or aunts and uncles, etc. Liberals cry when kids are separated, they cry when the families are together, the only acceptable outcome for libs... it seems... is to let the illegal immigrants carry on as they have been. Something your lord and savior Barack Obama didn't even allow. Do you propose we send the kids quickly, on their own, back to their home countries? Is that safe for them? Do you propose the kids are not responsible for their parents crimes (I'm sure you don't) so they should be allowed to stay in the US, continue to go to their schools etc? Who is going to take care of them and fund all of this? Let me guess.... Quote
dogcows Posted February 10 Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: it's really not. That's what you want to label it, because... virtue signaling... but how exactly is it heartless? It's called responsibility. When I was a kid, if my mother and father decided to rob a bank together and went to prison, I wouldn't expect to go to prison with one of them but i WOULD expect to be separated from my parents and sent to live with grandparents or aunts and uncles, etc. Liberals cry when kids are separated, they cry when the families are together, the only acceptable outcome for libs... it seems... is to let the illegal immigrants carry on as they have been. Something your lord and savior Barack Obama didn't even allow. Do you propose we send the kids quickly, on their own, back to their home countries? Is that safe for them? Do you propose the kids are not responsible for their parents crimes (I'm sure you don't) so they should be allowed to stay in the US, continue to go to their schools etc? Who is going to take care of them and fund all of this? Let me guess.... Taking kids out of a war zone to get them to a better place is equivalent to robbing a bank? I’m not virtue signaling. I’m just trying to suggest we treat others as we would like to be treated. Maybe you believe the lies about immigrants, and if so, I wish you’d meet some to see how far off base you are. Quote
WhiteWonder Posted February 10 Posted February 10 18 minutes ago, dogcows said: Taking kids out of a war zone to get them to a better place is equivalent to robbing a bank? I’m not virtue signaling. I’m just trying to suggest we treat others as we would like to be treated. Maybe you believe the lies about immigrants, and if so, I wish you’d meet some to see how far off base you are. If you conveniently replace "bring your kids to another country illegally" with "taking your kids out of a war zone" , then no... of course it's not the equivalent of robbing a bank. And clearly I just grabbed a quick example off the top of my head for a scenario where I would be expecting to be separated from my parents. I hear you as far as treating others as we would like to be treated. Unfortunately, i'm the wrong person to use that logic on because if I packed up and headed off to another country tomorrow, with the intent to never leave, live there indefinitely, benefit from their government and work for cash payment under the table... i've made my poor choice and would not blink an eye when detained. If I had kids and brought them with me, I would only have myself to blame for whatever happens. Immigrants or illegal immigrants? It's highly possible that I actually have met and know more than you do. As some on this forum may recall, my best friend has been dating an illegal immigrant from Brazil for the past 3-4 years. Her brother is also here illegally, and they were in the process of helping her daughter come (in her late 20's with kids of her own who would be left behind with grandma). There is a very large illegal Brazilian community in their city and because I don't want to see any specific person be deported (I more so want it curbed in general), I have spent time at bars and clubs with them a few weekends. I don't think they should be here and I avoid certain conversations (with the ones who have bothered to learn any English, at least) but I'm not calling ice or even treating them with any sort of disrespect. She convinced my friend to make some bad choices, including buying her a Salon, where they hired other illegals. Spoiler: the Salon last about a year before he had to sell ..... then there are all the mexicans working at the restaurant my old college roomate managed for many years. I knew a lot of them pretty well. The small business owners are the ones who should be penalized most for perpetuating the problem. .... my uncle from Columbia was only here on a visa when he married my Aunt in the late 70s. i'll just stop there. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Say her name and I won’t bring it up again. Laken Riley Quote
seafoam1 Posted February 10 Posted February 10 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Laken Riley 100% your fault. You voted for creepy joe, and he did this. Quote
Gladiators Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Kids of illegals are being sent to concentration camps? Were their parents given the opportunity to leave, but they decided to stay and roll the dice? Quote
Fireballer Posted February 10 Posted February 10 30 minutes ago, dogcows said: Taking kids out of a war zone War zones? Hey, no problem. Those people would be legal asylees and have protections. Are you saying families legally seeking asylum are being broken up and place in concentration camps? Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 10 Posted February 10 19 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Laken Riley You failed. Quote
dogcows Posted February 10 Posted February 10 58 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: if I packed up and headed off to another country tomorrow, with the intent to never leave, live there indefinitely, benefit from their government and work for cash payment under the table... i've made my poor choice and would not blink an eye when detained. If I had kids and brought them with me, I would only have myself to blame for whatever happens. That’s a mischaracterization of the situation IMO. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 10 Posted February 10 Anything we can do? Send a care package maybe? 1 Quote
WhiteWonder Posted February 11 Posted February 11 27 minutes ago, dogcows said: That’s a mischaracterization of the situation IMO. How so? What if I just can’t take living under this fascist government any longer and I’m fed up with all the rising costs of living and wages that don’t keep up so I decide to head to Spain where I can make good money relative to my living costs get cheap health care, and I can be free of Kings! …. Oh wait and I won’t go through the proper channels because I am afraid Trump will find out. After all, I’ve been told he’s a dictator. So I do it all illegally and bring my 10 year old son with me. 1 1 Quote
Voltaire Posted February 11 Posted February 11 3 hours ago, dogcows said: This is the official position of the heartless scumbag party. I agree with you. The situation sucks. I don't want these kids in this situation either. Do you have a better solution? Tell us what it is and so maybe we can do it your way instead. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 7 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I agree with you. The situation sucks. I don't want these kids in this situation either. Do you have a better solution? Tell us what it is and so maybe we can do it your way instead. Let the kids live with relatives? Path to citizenship? Quote
weepaws Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Stop supporting it, next election if the blue side wins, lol, because they are one team really, they will let them back in, and more so. Then the red team returns, losers is this country, America needs to toss out this government, re-boot , and lets be one nation under God, because a nation that’s not under God, is a nation that’s gone under. Quote
Voltaire Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Let the kids live with relatives? Path to citizenship? Yes, if available and yes. Quote
5-Points Posted February 11 Posted February 11 10 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Let the kids live with relatives? Path to citizenship? We have a path to citizenship. It's called legal immigration. 1 Quote
seafoam1 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 11 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Yes, if available and yes. No. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 11 Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, 5-Points said: We have a path to citizenship. It's called legal immigration. Great post. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: We have a path to citizenship. It's called legal immigration. 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Great post. Nice to see who the sociopaths are. Quote
dogcows Posted February 11 Posted February 11 27 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I agree with you. The situation sucks. I don't want these kids in this situation either. Do you have a better solution? Tell us what it is and so maybe we can do it your way instead. We need to reform the immigration system. For decades neither party wanted to take it on. Guest worker programs, pathways to green cards and/or citizenship for more people. DACA was a step in the right direction but even that faced a lot of opposition. Under the current system, I think the best way to handle things is to acknowledge deporting everybody is neither possible more ethical. Since that means prioritizing, they should target actual criminals. 1 Quote
5-Points Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Nice to see who the sociopaths are. Nice to see who the America haters are. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 Just now, 5-Points said: Nice to see who the America haters are. Not wanting kids held in concentration camps means you hate America Never change. Quote
5-Points Posted February 11 Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Not wanting kids held in concentration camps means you hate America Never change. Not wanting our laws enforced, including immigration laws, which results in people being here who don't belong here, which jeopardizes the safety and security of Americans, means you hate America. HTH 1 Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 11 Author Posted February 11 5 minutes ago, 5-Points said: Not wanting our laws enforced, including immigration laws, which results in people being here who don't belong here, which jeopardizes the safety and security of Americans, means you hate America. HTH Yeah those parents with kids are a real threat to America. Quote
5-Points Posted February 11 Posted February 11 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: Yeah those parents with kids are a real threat to America. They don't have a right to be here. Quote
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