Hawkeye21 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Does anyone else find it odd how many people are upset by this? Shouldn't this be common sense? https://x.com/FoxNews/status/2021737906038022426?s=20 2 Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted February 12 Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Does anyone else find it odd how many people are upset by this? Shouldn't this be common sense? https://x.com/FoxNews/status/2021737906038022426?s=20 Nobody has been able to intelligently articulate how voter ID is bad. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Nobody has been able to intelligently articulate how voter ID is bad. The most used excuse I've seen is that people are too stupid to get an ID so it's unlawful. I think the poll tax argument has some validity though. I'm not against providing a free voting ID to those who don't have one or, for some reason, can't afford one. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 12 Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Nobody has been able to intelligently articulate how voter ID is bad. Because if women get married and take their husbands name they can’t vote. Supposedly. Getting an ID is a complicated process. That’s why the blacks can’t figure it out. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: The most used excuse I've seen is that people are too stupid to get an ID so it's unlawful. I think the poll tax argument has some validity though. I'm not against providing a free voting ID to those who don't have one or, for some reason, can't afford one. You hit the nail on the head. Democrats have convinced their base that they’re too stupid to figure out how to get an ID. Even though they have years to do so. So if they just say voter suppression somehow enough, they think it absolve them of treating their voters like complete morons who can’t function as regular adults that can do these things Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 Just now, HellToupee said: How is my wife going to vote By getting a real ID, just like everyone else. Quote
Strike Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Because if women get married and take their husbands name they can’t vote. Supposedly. Getting an ID is a complicated process. That’s why the blacks can’t figure it out. Yep, just ask Peenie. Her life has been so hard due to not having an I.D. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: How is my wife going to vote The irony of ordering a mail order bride, but you can’t mail in your vote? Ha jk jk Quote
Fireballer Posted February 12 Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: You hit the nail on the head. Democrats have convinced their base that they’re too stupid to figure out how to get an ID. Even though they have years to do so. So if they just say voter suppression somehow enough, they think it absolve them of treating their voters like complete morons who can’t function as regular adults that can do these things Yep. Even a sitting SCOTUS justice has said black people are disabled Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted February 12 Posted February 12 16 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Yep. Even a sitting SCOTUS justice has said black people are disabled Katanji? 1 Quote
Sean Mooney Posted February 12 Posted February 12 29 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: By getting a real ID, just like everyone else. Ironically they made it more difficult to get a Real ID in a lot of rural areas just in the past month. 1 Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 12 Posted February 12 30 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: By getting a real ID, just like everyone else. clarification, read ID won't work. You need a birth certificate and ID with matching names, or other documentation if names don't match. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, Ron_Artest said: clarification, read ID won't work. You need a birth certificate and ID with matching names, or other documentation if names don't match. Death certificates will be acceptable in blue states? 2 Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said: clarification, read ID won't work. You need a birth certificate and ID with matching names, or other documentation if names don't match. I thought you needed that for a real ID as well? 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Ironically they made it more difficult to get a Real ID in a lot of rural areas just in the past month. How so? I'm not familiar with it. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I thought you needed that for a real ID as well? You do, which is why it's stupid that you would need more forms to register to vote. The current method of registration, a real ID is fine. Quote
Sean Mooney Posted February 12 Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How so? I'm not familiar with it. Oh sorry....passports at rural areas...My mistake. As to Real ID though I will say- it is only certain facilities that do Real ID services and is not all of them. In my scenario the closest Real ID place is 45 minutes away. You used to be able to submit documentation at any place and then just get the main ID at the big facility but I'm pretty sure they closed that ability now and everything has to go to the main place. 1 Quote
TheNewGirl Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Quote In effect, the SAVE Act introduces a documentation requirement for a law that has existed for decades: the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 explicitly prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections. To do so, the SAVE Act amends the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 by introducing a requirement for individuals to provide proof of U.S. citizenship when registering to vote in federal elections. Quote
TheNewGirl Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said: Oh sorry....passports at rural areas...My mistake. As to Real ID though I will say- it is only certain facilities that do Real ID services and is not all of them. In my scenario the closest Real ID place is 45 minutes away. You used to be able to submit documentation at any place and then just get the main ID at the big facility but I'm pretty sure they closed that ability now and everything has to go to the main place. How are passports more difficult to get in rural areas? I literally drove to the post office in the rural area near me and it took 10 minutes; I had all of my paperwork, picture, and payment ready to go. I drove to the rural area because the post offices in the city near me never has appointments available. It can take months to get in there. Quote
Sean Mooney Posted February 12 Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: How are passports more difficult to get in rural areas? I literally drove to the post office in the rural area near me and it took 10 minutes; I had all of my paperwork, picture, and payment ready to go. I drove to the rural area because the post offices in the city near me never has appointments available. It can take months to get in there. So in a lot of rural areas they were doing passport services at local libraries...these libraries operated as non-profits and have offered passport services. However, In November, 501(c)(3) nonprofit libraries were notified by the State Department that the libraries’ status rendered them ineligible to operate as passport acceptance facilities under federal law, despite Americans using these locations for many years. Municipal libraries can still do it but depending on the rural area that is a bit of a drive to get to one of those places. It's more inconvenient. 1 Quote
HellToupee Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Mexican citizen, not a US citizen, was a mayor in Kansas who voted illegally. This is why we need the Save Act. A bad hombre. Election fraud 1 Quote
TheNewGirl Posted February 12 Posted February 12 13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: So in a lot of rural areas they were doing passport services at local libraries...these libraries operated as non-profits and have offered passport services. However, In November, 501(c)(3) nonprofit libraries were notified by the State Department that the libraries’ status rendered them ineligible to operate as passport acceptance facilities under federal law, despite Americans using these locations for many years. Municipal libraries can still do it but depending on the rural area that is a bit of a drive to get to one of those places. It's more inconvenient. Ok, that makes sense. I can see how a library might be violating a federal law, since it's a federal process to get a passport. They do need to make them cheaper and easier to get, for sure. Quote
avoiding injuries Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Let’s see what the Senate does now. Chicken sh!ts. Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted February 12 Posted February 12 38 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: So in a lot of rural areas they were doing passport services at local libraries...these libraries operated as non-profits and have offered passport services. However, In November, 501(c)(3) nonprofit libraries were notified by the State Department that the libraries’ status rendered them ineligible to operate as passport acceptance facilities under federal law, despite Americans using these locations for many years. Municipal libraries can still do it but depending on the rural area that is a bit of a drive to get to one of those places. It's more inconvenient. So you're saying that once every 10 years, someone has to drive an extra half hour to get their passport renewed? Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: So you're saying that once every 10 years, someone has to drive an extra half hour to get their passport renewed? The HORROR! Quote
FrancieFootball Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Because if women get married and take their husbands name they can’t vote. Supposedly. Getting an ID is a complicated process. That’s why the blacks can’t figure it out. I know you're a lot of bad things, including dumb and ignorant, but I didn't figure you for a racist. Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 12 Posted February 12 What you idiots fail to realize is that the reason for this law is all based on a lie that Donpedo told that the 2020 election was stolen, and he can't get over the fact that he lost, so he and everyone around him are doing things to appease his ego, including this dumb law. The problem it's trying to solve is virtually non existent but it's creating a slew of other problems that will lead to voter suppresion. 1 1 1 Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, FrancieFootball said: I know you're a lot of bad things, including dumb and ignorant, but I didn't figure you for a racist. Really? Did you miss where he said he doesn't trust black pilots? Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, Ron_Artest said: What you idiots fail to realize is that the reason for this law is all based on a lie that Donpedo told that the 2020 election was stolen, and he can't get over the fact that he lost, so he and everyone around him are doing things to appease his ego, including this dumb law. The problem it's trying to solve is virtually non existent but it's creating a slew of other problems that will lead to voter suppresion. LOL, yeah, that's what we're doing. Quote
supermike80 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said: I know you're a lot of bad things, including dumb and ignorant, but I didn't figure you for a racist. Hold on big fella. This has been what the democrats have been saying. In fact it is almost all they have been saying. He's not the racist, the democrat party is. 2 1 Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: LOL, yeah, that's what we're doing. OK then tell me why we need this law. Quote
FrancieFootball Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, Ron_Artest said: Really? Did you miss where he said he doesn't trust black pilots? Yeah, I missed that one. Quote
FrancieFootball Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: Hold on big fella. This has been what the democrats have been saying. In fact it is almost all they have been saying. He's not the racist, the democrat party is. Blacks played a big role in getting Trump elected in 2024. Don't project Turdcore's racism onto democrats. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted February 12 Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: OK then tell me why we need this law. Why don’t we need the law as a prudent preventative measure? Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 12 Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Why don’t we need the law as a prudent preventative measure? No. Unless you can explain to me or show me evidence of a problem, no. Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 9 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: OK then tell me why we need this law. How is this law not common sense? Voting is one of our most important rights as a citizen. Shouldn't we want it to be accurate and the results to actually represent real citizens? 1 Quote
Hawkeye21 Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 Why should be be required to have IDs at all? Quote
Ron_Artest Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: How is this law not common sense? Voting is one of our most important rights as a citizen. Shouldn't we want it to be accurate and the results to actually represent real citizens? Yes of course, that is why we ask for ID when you register to vote and we have a law that says you have to be a real citizen to vote and you attest to that when you register. Do you not know that? Quote
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