Maximum Overkill Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Just now, edjr said: They called me a scat back. It may have been my constantly sh1tting myself @MDC aka @Red White and Blue Started out as a tight end and earned his way to a Wide Receiver. Quote
cmh6476 Posted February 15 Posted February 15 The Chiefs will get back to the super bowl next year mark my werds Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 15 Posted February 15 20 minutes ago, cmh6476 said: The Chiefs will get back to the super bowl next year mark my werds Ohhh, I will Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 2/14/2026 at 9:17 PM, Ron_Artest said: I don't want to overpay for Pierce, would rather have shaheed for much less, or Evans if they let him walk. Also lots of wr talent in the draft. Linderbaum might be the big signing. They can free up $30M easy with cuts and restructures. I wont argue. Im not a fan of FA. Its for bad teams to overpay. But I do think Pierce is really good. Hes a much better player than Shaheed but would also cost more. Evans makes little sense for Giants. Or at lesst to me. I would assume at this stage of his career he would just stay with 1 team if he wants to continue. At most maybe go chase a ring for 1 or 2 years then retire. Which wouldnt be the Giants. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 23 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: AJ always pulls that crap, pay no mind. He did the same thing with a Cowboys jersey when he wanted a new contract. Besides, why would Howie Roseman, the best GM in all of football trade AJ Brown to NY??? He's going to Buffalo or NE. I doubt Buffalo. But they did get rid of drill sergeant Derm. Theyve tried to create a lockerroom full of decent dudes. They got rid of Diggs for being too much. For sure Beane is embarrassed by how hes built thay WR room since, so they will do something. But id be surprised if it was Brown. It sounds wild. And Bills have cap issues. But I wouldnt rule out trading for a Vikings WR a second time. Joe Brady's profile picture last I knew was still of him Chase and Jefferson in college. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: But I do think Pierce is really good. Hes a much better player than Shaheed but would also cost more. Agree, I'd rather overpay for Pierce over Shaheed all day. Shaheed has little value beyond kick returns. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: But I wouldnt rule out trading for a Vikings WR a second time. Joe Brady's profile picture last I knew was still of him Chase and Jefferson in college Trading for Jefferson? Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Just now, Maximum Overkill said: Trading for Jefferson? Its been floated around. Big history with Joe Brady. Jefderson has been a class act by WR standards. But at a point he is becoming a bit frustrated with QBing. And they may have no real plan at QB if JJ doesnt all of a sudden blossom. Jefferson stuck by JJ this year saying hr believes in him. But we all know the truth. The Vikings would be wise to unload him now at this full value especially if he himself want to leave. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Just now, listen2me 23 said: Its been floated around. Big history with Joe Brady. Jefderson has been a class act by WR standards. But at a point he is becoming a bit frustrated with QBing. And they may have no real plan at QB if JJ doesnt all of a sudden blossom. Jefferson stuck by JJ this year saying hr believes in him. But we all know the truth. The Vikings would be wise to unload him now at this full value especially if he himself want to leave. You just stated that the Bills have cap issues, which they do. Could they afford Jefferson or even have the ammo to put together a competitive trade package? I'm not even sure that they can take on AJs contract, I was just floating that out there for shitz and giggles. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 The Bills will do something substantial at WR. They have to. For their cap it would be best to trade up and draft an elite tier WR. But when window is right this second it becomes hard to bank on a draft pick. Other than Coleman they have basically tried to build the room with vets via trade or pick up. It hasnt worked because theyve tried to patch it with vets. And they've been awful at it. Beane has a notorious appearance on the local sports station back in like August. He basically came in full steam trashing the hosts saying he knows they need something to about but complaining about WR is the dumbest gripe. He then proceeded to pick up any WR with a pulse. Maybe not even a week later picks up Eli Moore. Who dressed plenty but was cut later in year. Picks up Gabe Davis while hurt and stashes him on PS. Gabe Davis went on to start games later until he got hurt again. Apparently was in market for Waddle. Picks up Brandin Cooks and ends up leaning on him as basically their #1. And I feel like I am missing one. That was super embarrassing. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: You just stated that the Bills have cap issues, which they do. Could they afford Jefferson or even have the ammo to put together a competitive trade package? I'm not even sure that they can take on AJs contract, I was just floating that out there for shitz and giggles. Caps get weird. They might not be able to for sure. They do have quite of few restructures. With the change to a hybrid 34 type defense I could see them selling off a decent contract on defense that just doesnt fit the scheme. Im not sure if trading for Jefferson is realistic. But if it is at all...they will be interested. Joe Brady would pound thr table to make it work if it can what so ever. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 Where they sit in the draft, from what I have looked into thus far.....I dont love their options of WRs that would be available. They botched the Coleman trade backs and draft. (Beane has to thank Jesus that Worthy hasnt really panned out either) Itll be interesting which route they take but Id have to wager good money that they will do something substantial at WR. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Im not sure if trading for Jefferson is realistic It may be. Jefferson definitely isn't happy and if JJ is back I wouldn't be shocked if he's demanding a trade at some point. Buffalo is a WR1 away from being Superbowl Champions. I think they should do everything they possibly can to get that guy. It's not AJ, he's hot garbage Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: It may be. Jefferson definitely isn't happy and if JJ is back I wouldn't be shocked if he's demanding a trade at some point. Buffalo is a WR1 away from being Superbowl Champions. I think they should do everything they possibly can to get that guy. It's not AJ, he's hot garbage AJ at a point was/is very good. But I dont trust him. Seems like his emotions and mind has been able to sink into his play. Hes too much of a me player. Jefferson is a stud and obviously wants to see the ball. But generally I think that guy is a legit teammate. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 2/15/2026 at 7:16 AM, Ron_Artest said: Eli is 2 time super bowl MVP and has the most passing yards and passing tds of any NFL qb NOT in the HOF who is eligible. Anyone who says he's not a HOF is just a hater, or really stupid. Its meh to me. I can see both sides. I think hes too much a part of the history of the game to leave out totally. But it is true that he was never really considered a top 5 QB in any year during his long career. Even at his best. He certainly showed up in big moments(as did his teammates). Which is definitely something. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: AJ at a point was/is very good. But I dont trust him. Seems like his emotions and mind has been able to sink into his play. Hes too much of a me player. Jefferson is a stud and obviously wants to see the ball. But generally I think that guy is a legit teammate. Agree with everything. As someone who follows the Eagles, AJ by all accounts is a good teammate, never misses practices, team meetings and everyone seems to like him. However, he does throw a lot of tantrums, especially when he's not involved or things don't go his way. Hurts and the Eagles offense was also much better when AJ wasn't targeted, for whatever that's worth. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Tyreek released Whoa! Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 15 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Whoa! Surprising? I didnt think it was. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Surprising? I didnt think it was. Not really, I thought they'd try to trade him before releasing him. I would of waited until free agency opened up but I don't know the specifics of the contract. Perhaps they had to release him now for financial reasons Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 16 Posted February 16 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Not really, I thought they'd try to trade him before releasing him. I would of waited until free agency opened up but I don't know the specifics of the contract. Perhaps they had to release him now for financial reasons I think he was owed like 11 mill before FA started sometime. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 16 Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: I think he was owed like 11 mill before FA started sometime. Yeah, cut his assss According to multiple reports, the Miami Dolphins are releasing eight-time Pro Bowl wide receiver Tyreek Hill. The release will save the Dolphins $22.8 million against the salary cap Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 16 Author Posted February 16 KC will take him back. They have no standards. Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted February 17 Posted February 17 On 2/13/2026 at 5:25 PM, Maximum Overkill said: Depends if you care about winning or not Yeah, let's go with that. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 17 Posted February 17 SBs matter most. But Eli was 117-117 for his regular season career. He never led the league in any meaningful passing stat other than INTs on 3 different occasions. But it is a decent debate on how much his SBs sway a relatively average career otherwise. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 17 Author Posted February 17 Matthew Stafford is a lock for the HOF. Quote
Kopy Posted February 17 Posted February 17 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Matthew Stafford is a lock for the HOF. Agreed. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 17 Author Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Kopy said: Agreed. Eli isn’t. Explain please. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 17 Posted February 17 5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: But Eli was 117-117 for his regular season career. So? Why should regular season matter in this discussion? He did win 2 Superbowl and 2 Superbowl MVPs. How many QBs can say that? That in itself makes him a hall of Famer IMO. Again, that's just my opinion. Quote
Kopy Posted February 18 Posted February 18 17 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Eli isn’t. Explain please. I think both QB's should be in the Hall of Fame. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 18 Author Posted February 18 27 minutes ago, Kopy said: I think both QB's should be in the Hall of Fame. It’s funny though that you ask most people and they’ll say Stanford is a lock and Eli shouldn’t get it. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Rich Bisaccia, the Packers ST coach steps down (or forced out) finally. Cool dude, players like him. They made him highest paid SPT coach back in 2022 trying like hell yo turn around the SPTs. While a couple areas shined in ways, overall it was a below average unit as a whole again and again. If Lafleur was really going to bring him back and Rich just ended up deciding this himself then thats wild. Great timing this far into hiring cycle. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 39 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s funny though that you ask most people and they’ll say Stanford is a lock and Eli shouldn’t get it. After Stafford won a SB I put him about in same place as Eli. He did a lot of losing in Detroit (who wouldnt). Overall by eye test Id say Stafford has proven to be more talented of a player. The recent MVP definitely elevated the discussion for him. Its a good comparison and ask. Pretty good example of QB A vs QB B. Quote
listen2me 23 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 I could bang the table for Coughlin HOF much louder at moment than for Eli. Coughlin gets so little backing for it yet is clearly a HOF coach. Quote
Kopy Posted February 18 Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s funny though that you ask most people and they’ll say Stanford is a lock and Eli shouldn’t get it. I think that might be more of the fantasy football type people that say that. And not actual football people? I don't really know. My own .02. On my fantasy team. I'd take Stafford a little later in my draft every single time. Lions, or Rams. I'm probably not even looking at Eli. And I'll fell like I just won the lottery. But football wise. How many multiple QB's have won multiple super bowls that weren't part of an all time dynasty team. So don't count Bart Star, Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, and of course the goat Tom Brady. That's a tiny list. Off the top of my head, Jim Plunket, John Elway, and Eli? Plus both times mvp of the game. So Eli should be in, no questions asked. It's gotta be people that just look at stats where one guy gets respect, but the other guy doesn't. They both should be in. Quote
Kopy Posted February 18 Posted February 18 23 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: I could bang the table for Coughlin HOF much louder at moment than for Eli. Coughlin gets so little backing for it yet is clearly a HOF coach. I'm not sure how long this Belichick thing is gonna go. I'm assuming he's in next year. But could you imagine another coach getting in before him. I almost want to see it, just to enjoy the chaos. Quote
cmh6476 Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Chiefs gonna get Breece Hall unless the Jets are dumb enough to tag him Quote
Kopy Posted February 18 Posted February 18 4 hours ago, cmh6476 said: Mahomes restructures LFG!$!#! Again? They seem to be entering Saints territory, no? At some point, he is gonna be the cap. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 18 Posted February 18 8 hours ago, cmh6476 said: Mahomes restructures LFG!$!#! Injury is worse than expected. 2026 season is a wash Quote
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