SaintsInDome2006 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, cyclone24 said: Ill bite…im sorry when did we start leading the way again? Good news yall….republicans are the ones getting to the bottom of it apparently. Who knew First I recall Epstein being raised by the right wing was roughly 2016. Then it came up again during the 2019-21 prosecutions & Epstein’s death. That was all right wing / maga. If there’s a “liberal” piece to it (though I don’t consider it liberal) there was the journalism digging up the details about the Farmer sisters & Giuffre & by the Miami Herald going back to 2018 & before that. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Red White and Blue said: I have some better questions. 1. Why did Bondi hand out Epstein Files Ph 1 binders last February? 2. Why did she say the files were on her desk and release was imminent? 3. Why did the FBI / DOJ say they weren’t going to release any more files in July 2025? 4. Why did Trump say the files were a hoax written by Hillary, Obama, Comey, etc.? 5. If that’s true, what was their evidence? 6. Why did he urge Republicans in Congress to move on and block a vote on the EF release? 7. Why did he have Maxwell moved to a minimum security prison? 8. Why after urging Congress to vote for the EF to be released, has DOJ only released about half the files in heavily redacted form? I don’t expect any answers to these questions. You answered your own question They have to protect the innocents. Being in the Epstien files doesn't mean you're guilty of anything. Thousands of people are mentioned in the files, including business associates, 3rd parties and people who've never been anywhere near Epstein Island. It's not as simple as just releasing them. Wouldn't you agree?? Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Red White and Blue said: Trump keeps praising Bondi. Maybe he’s stupid and in over his head too. Maybe. Beats the alternative though. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: First I recall Epstein being raised by the right wing was roughly 2016. Then it came up again during the 2019-21 prosecutions & Epstein’s death. That was all right wing / maga. If there’s a “liberal” piece to it (though I don’t consider it liberal) there was the journalism digging up the details about the Farmer sisters & Giuffre & by the Miami Herald going back to 2018 & before that. OK, so he raised it in 2016 when he was president. An issue that other administrations knew about but he raised it in 2016 and had a DOJ at the time undermining him every chance they got (Crossfire Hurricane, dossier, Comey leaks, on and on) … but at no time during that administration or Biden’s administration when they could’ve found the absolute hammer to not let Trump get reelected they just didn’t feel like using it? This is where the argument just gets too stringy and far-fetched. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: We sure about that? Please run her again….im begging you. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: OK, so he raised it in 2016 when he was president. An issue that other administrations knew about but he raised it in 2016 and had a DOJ at the time undermining him every chance they got (Crossfire Hurricane, dossier, Comey leaks, on and on) … but at no time during that administration or Biden’s administration when they could’ve found the absolute hammer to not let Trump get reelected they just didn’t feel like using it? This is where the argument just gets too stringy and far-fetched. This is the sort of thing the far left would argue. Yes people on left feel like Garland should have brought cases against Trump earlier & more aggressively across the board. And people who are totally non-partisan can look at that Bondi presentation and argue something should have been done about this a long, long time ago as to everyone shown there, & yes Garland & Wray are part of that. Look at the Wexler deposition, it’s outrageous. Quote
Red White and Blue Posted February 22 Posted February 22 16 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: I have some better questions. 1. Why did Bondi hand out Epstein Files Ph 1 binders last February? 2. Why did she say the files were on her desk and release was imminent? 3. Why did the FBI / DOJ say they weren’t going to release any more files in July 2025? 4. Why did Trump say the files were a hoax written by Hillary, Obama, Comey, etc.? 5. If that’s true, what was their evidence? 6. Why did he urge Republicans in Congress to move on and block a vote on the EF release? 7. Why did he have Maxwell moved to a minimum security prison? 8. Why after urging Congress to vote for the EF to be released, has DOJ only released about half the files in heavily redacted form? I don’t expect any answers to these questions. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: This is the sort of thing the far left would argue. Yes people on left feel like Garland should have brought cases against Trump earlier & more aggressively across the board. And people who are totally non-partisan can look at that Bondi presentation and argue something should have been done about this a long, long time ago as to everyone shown there, & yes Garland & Wray are part of that. Look at the Wexler deposition, it’s outrageous. Yeah, I think we can both agree that multiple administrations have dropped this but at some point, you do have to reconcile the fact that they probably already dug as hard as they can dig to Find the hammer for Trump and they never found it. I think that’s part of why this gets annoying for conservatives is that we have actual problems to fix you guys are hung up on something you had four years to find and do something with and even more if you want to count the Obama years. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Red White and Blue said: You are out of your mind if you think you’re throwing out a 10 question questionnaire, and we’re going to go line by line and research/answer them for you. You asked the questions do your own research. Quote
Meglamaniac Posted February 22 Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: Billy Madison - Everyone is now dumber Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Yeah, I think we can both agree that multiple administrations have dropped this but at some point, you do have to reconcile the fact that they probably already dug as hard as they can dig to Find the hammer for Trump and they never found it. I think that’s part of why this gets annoying for conservatives is that we have actual problems to fix you guys are hung up on something you had four years to find and do something with and even more if you want to count the Obama years. I think what the left & right have to deal with is investigating Trump & Wexler would also mean investigating people like Clinton & Ruemmler, & for the DOJ it would mean that their own failures & complicity - starting with the NPA - would be exposed. And btw quite a few victims have been paid off right up to this day. And the coconspirators also happen to be extremely wealthy & powerful people with extremely deep (unlimited!) pockets. People want to know “why”, that’s why. Quote
seafoam1 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I think what the left & right have to deal with is investigating Trump & Wexler would also mean investigating people like Clinton & Ruemmler, & for the DOJ it would mean that their own failures & complicity - starting with the NPA - would be exposed. And btw quite a few victims have been paid off right up to this day. People want to know “why”, that’s why. No. This is all old news and it's not worth spending any time on. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I think what the left & right have to deal with is investigating Trump & Wexler would also mean investigating people like Clinton & Ruemmler, & for the DOJ it would mean that their own failures & complicity - starting with the NPA - would be exposed. And btw quite a few victims have been paid off right up to this day. People want to know “why”, that’s why. Nobody actually cares what happens to Clinton…maybe in a bizarre political way, but i doubt they wouldnt sacrifice Bill to get to Trump. Quote
HotRod Posted February 22 Posted February 22 The libtards were scrubbing the files from Democrats but ran out of time. Trump has been fully exonerated. Quote
Red White and Blue Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: You are out of your mind if you think you’re throwing out a 10 question questionnaire, and we’re going to go line by line and research/answer them for you. You asked the questions do your own research. No research needed. Everyone but the most deluded MAGA knows Don is shielding himself and his buddies from embarrassment. 1 1 Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Just now, cyclone24 said: Nobody actually cares what happens to Clinton…maybe in a bizarre political way, but i doubt they wouldnt sacrifice Bill to get to Trump. And what about wealthy Dem benefactors like Gates & Hoffman? What about the DOJ itself? Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted February 22 Posted February 22 One of the many reasons the Democrats and Deep State stole the 2020 election was to stop Trump from pushing forward with destroying their human trafficking network. By 2025 the statute had run out and there was plenty of time to destroy evidence. This is according to many people. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Just now, Tree of Knowledge said: By 2025 the statute had run out and there was plenty of time to destroy evidence. This is something the EFTA law would require Bondi to produce, the communications & reports showing this happened. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Do we know what happened with this complaint? Refuted many times. This was someone just trying to derail Trump’s first triumphant landslide. Quote
seafoam1 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: No research needed. Everyone but the most deluded MAGA knows Don is shielding himself and his buddies from embarrassment. Poor mepee is hurting again. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Refuted many times. This was someone just trying to derail Trump’s first triumphant landslide. Is there a DOJ memo saying that? Quote
dogcows Posted February 22 Posted February 22 42 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Says the side that says they are all protecting pedos but then also wants to spin it into this bipartisan support…. seems very spinny. 427-1 Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: No research needed. Everyone but the most deluded MAGA knows Don is shielding himself and his buddies from embarrassment. Ohhhhh…..so as @SaintsInDome2006 and @dogcowsjust said…republicans led the way on this and voted overwhelmingly for the law…..but now its a coverup. You guys should get together and pick a narrative Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, cyclone24 said: Ohhhhh…..so as @SaintsInDome2006 just said…republicans led the way on this and voted overwhelmingly for the law…..but now its a coverup. You guys should get together and pick a narrative As I pointed out they stopped. That presentation & the email it’s attached to are from summer 2025. They stopped when Patel then DOJ realized Trump was exposed. Quote
Red White and Blue Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, cyclone24 said: Ohhhhh…..so as @SaintsInDome2006 just said…republicans led the way on this and voted overwhelmingly for the law…..but now its a coverup. You guys should get together and pick a narrative You miss the part where Trump spent months calling the files a hoax and urging Congressional Republicans to move on, before it became politically impossible? Or the fact that he didn’t need their approval to release the files, and his DOJ has only released about half in heavily redacted format? Quote
dogcows Posted February 22 Posted February 22 27 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Refuted many times. This was someone just trying to derail Trump’s first triumphant landslide. Link? Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 20 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: You miss the part where Trump spent months calling the files a hoax and urging Congressional Republicans to move on, before it became politically impossible? Or the fact that he didn’t need their approval to release the files, and his DOJ has only released about half in heavily redacted format? Half too much unredacted. Again…pick a narrative 1 Quote
Red White and Blue Posted February 22 Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Half too much unredacted. Again…pick a narrative I’ll refer you to my unanswered questions above. Feel free to pick any of them! Look forward to your reply. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: I’ll refer you to my unanswered questions above. Feel free to pick any of them! Look forward to your reply. Yeah i dont do wild goose chases. Feel free to research your own questions….i simply asked you to pick one of the contradictory positions you guys keep pumping out depending on which way the win blows Quote
Grace Under Pressure Posted February 22 Posted February 22 43 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said: No research needed. Everyone but the most deluded MAGA knows Don is shielding himself and his buddies from embarrassment. The hilarious part is they think that by defending Trump daily like their life depends on it, that they will somehow change the minds of even one of the 70% of Americans who know for a fact that Trump was best friends with Epstein for decades and raped underaged girls, often violently. Quote
Red White and Blue Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1 minute ago, cyclone24 said: Yeah i dont do wild goose chases. Safer than asking why your Messiah spent the year lying and otherwise acting guilty as sin. Quote
cyclone24 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Just now, Red White and Blue said: Safer than asking why your Messiah spent the year lying and otherwise acting guilty as sin. Yyyaaaaaaaawwwwnnnn….. when you have nothing left, it’s just pure gibberish. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted February 22 Posted February 22 1. I believe that the reason that Biden’s DOJ didn’t pursue prosecuting people in the Epstein files is because too many prominent Democrats were involved. Shame on them. 2. I believe that the reason that Trump’s DOJ didn’t pursue prosecuting people in the Epstein files is because too many prominent friends of Donald Trump were involved, and because Donald Trump was involved (if illegally I have no idea, but certainly to a level that would be very embarrassing for him if fully revealed.) Shame on them and shame on Donald Trump. 3. I think it’s highly hypocritical for Democrats to pursue this now at the level they are doing since they were silent or dismissive during the Biden years. On the other hand they are quite correct to pursue it; they should have pursued it then. Republicans who were the loudest shouters about this before and are now silent are equally hypocritical. But hypocrisy in politics is to be expected and isn’t noteworthy. I don’t find any of these positions to be inconsistent. 1 Quote
Red White and Blue Posted February 22 Posted February 22 Just now, cyclone24 said: Yyyaaaaaaaawwwwnnnn….. when you have nothing left, it’s just pure gibberish. You don’t have time to answer any one of my questions, but you have endless time to defend Daddy. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted February 22 Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: Yyyaaaaaaaawwwwnnnn….. when you have nothing left, it’s just pure gibberish. There are some very specific claims, apparently, about Trump raping children in the files: https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/rep-ted-lieu-claims-president-trump-is-accused-of-raping-children-in-the-epstein-files/5191713 That’s per Congressman Ted Lieu. I make no claims as to whether or not it’s accurate. But it’s not correct to say “there’s nothing there.” 1 Quote
Meglamaniac Posted February 22 Posted February 22 11 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said: The hilarious part is they think that by defending Trump daily like their life depends on it, that they will somehow change the minds of even one of the 70% of Americans who know for a fact that Trump was best friends with Epstein for decades and raped underaged girls, often violently. If you're gonna make chit up why not 99 % Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted February 22 Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: There are some very specific claims, apparently, about Trump raping children in the files: https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/rep-ted-lieu-claims-president-trump-is-accused-of-raping-children-in-the-epstein-files/5191713 That’s per Congressman Ted Lieu. I make no claims as to whether or not it’s accurate. But it’s not correct to say “there’s nothing there.” First of all Ted Lieu. Also there’s nothing credible there. Quote
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