Is AJ gone from the Eagles

[weepaws]

It's a small gamble for the Patriots to pay, he's what they need to get them to the next level imo. And it's not like he hasn't been good, four straight 1000 plus yard seasons and four straight 7 plus td seasons, match him up with the qb the Patriots have, and that should be a winning combo  

[Maximum Overkill]

59 minutes ago, weepaws said:

And it's not like he hasn't been good, four straight 1000 plus yard seasons and four straight 7 plus td seasons,

On a team that didn't throw much 

[Showboat]

On 4/29/2026 at 8:41 AM, Maximum Overkill said:

Reports are a 2028 1st +. I'm sure they really wanted a 2027 instead. 

23 hours ago, Ray_T said:

That may well be.

I guess we shall see what the final selling price is.   I'm guessing a 2nd.    possibly a 3rd.    but it could well be a first.    these types of trades are sometimes difficult to estimate the price on.  I suppose it also depends on whether there are other bidders too.

The Patriots would be fools to give up a first rounder.  I don't think there are any other bidders and the Eagles are desperate to get Brown off their books.  If they are demanding a first rounder, the Patriots should call their bluff   

[Ray_T]

6 minutes ago, Showboat said:

The Patriots would be fools to give up a first rounder.  I don't think there are any other bidders and the Eagles are desperate to get Brown off their books.  If they are demanding a first rounder, the Patriots should call their bluff   

some teams bid against themselves as you well know.

the general rule is if you have to pay a player who is no longer on a rookie contract, you are not paying a first as well.

There are notable exceptions.   in this case we are talking a player who is among the highest paid WR in the game

At an average of 32 M per year, AJ is a top 8 WR in the NFL for salary.   I know people are saying yeah he got 1000 yards 4 straight years but the last 2 years he only barely hit 1000.   yeah he missed games, but he just hasnt been as dangerous.   is his production last 2 years worth top 8 salary?    its dicey.

hes also at an age where production may start to slip soon.     so I dont think I'd be inclined to pay a first for him either.     A second is fine.   a third is great.   but at this point the dollar value of that contract makes it tough to justify a first.

you only make that move if you think he is the final piece to the puzzle and you will win a superbowl with this move.       and while the pats are good, I dont think they are quite there yet.   I think they need one more piece if they acquire him.  possibly 2.

so why overpay?

[weepaws]

If it takes a first rd pick to get AJ the Patriots would be fools not to give up a first rd pick for him  he's already established, and exactly what they need, go get him Patriots. What the Patriots need is a stable coach, not one that cheats on his wife, disgusting 

[Maximum Overkill]

52 minutes ago, Showboat said:

The Patriots would be fools to give up a first rounder.  I don't think there are any other bidders

This deals been done for months. It will be very similar to the Waddle deal

[Showboat]

3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

This deals been done for months. It will be very similar to the Waddle deal

Maybe, but didn't the Ravens & Raiders teach us that no deal is "done" until it is done?

[Showboat]

4 hours ago, Ray_T said:

some teams bid against themselves as you well know.

the general rule is if you have to pay a player who is no longer on a rookie contract, you are not paying a first as well.

There are notable exceptions.   in this case we are talking a player who is among the highest paid WR in the game

At an average of 32 M per year, AJ is a top 8 WR in the NFL for salary.   I know people are saying yeah he got 1000 yards 4 straight years but the last 2 years he only barely hit 1000.   yeah he missed games, but he just hasnt been as dangerous.   is his production last 2 years worth top 8 salary?    its dicey.

hes also at an age where production may start to slip soon.     so I dont think I'd be inclined to pay a first for him either.     A second is fine.   a third is great.   but at this point the dollar value of that contract makes it tough to justify a first.

you only make that move if you think he is the final piece to the puzzle and you will win a superbowl with this move.       and while the pats are good, I dont think they are quite there yet.   I think they need one more piece if they acquire him.  possibly 2.

so why overpay?

Everything you say makes sense.  I also come at it from the perspective of why overpay when you have a desperate seller.  I don't think there is any way the Eagles can keep Brown cap-wise or locker-room-wise.  If a trade doesn't materialize, there's a decent chance that Brown simply gets cut.  

[Maximum Overkill]

7 minutes ago, Showboat said:

Maybe, but didn't the Ravens & Raiders teach us that no deal is "done" until it is done?

It's a Howie Roseman deal, iron clad. He'd never do a speculative deal. 

[Ray_T]

58 minutes ago, Showboat said:

Everything you say makes sense.  I also come at it from the perspective of why overpay when you have a desperate seller.  I don't think there is any way the Eagles can keep Brown cap-wise or locker-room-wise.  If a trade doesn't materialize, there's a decent chance that Brown simply gets cut.  

no they will never cut him.

worst case scenario they dump him for a late round pick.     some WR needy team will always be willing to take a guy like that off the trash heap and see what they can do with him.

I'm just suggesting a first round pick isnt entirely likely unless the pats are (for one reason or another) absolutely in love with the guy.

even so, I'm pretty sure if the asking price was a third round pick there would be a handful of teams lining up for that.

obviously those teams would have to have the cap space (which is a limiting factor.... teams tight to the cap will likely have no interest in this deal at any price)

but the pool of teams with 30M of cap space isnt likely all that large.   so like I said.... unless the pats are in love with him and think hes the final piece of the puzzle I dont see them spending a first on him.

 

 

 

[Maximum Overkill]

1 hour ago, Ray_T said:

no they will never cut him.

Waddle got a 1st, 3rd and 4th. 

AJ is a dominating true #1 WR and is only months older than Waddle. Why on earth would Roseman settle for less than the Waddle deal? He'd be a fool to do so and a fool he's not. 

I can guarantee you that it won't be for anything less than a 1st+

 

[kilroy69]

Imagine the focking chiefs move in and snake brown from the pats

[Ray_T]

18 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Waddle got a 1st, 3rd and 4th. 

AJ is a dominating true #1 WR and is only months older than Waddle. Why on earth would Roseman settle for less than the Waddle deal? He'd be a fool to do so and a fool he's not. 

I can guarantee you that it won't be for anything less than a 1st+

 

waddle doesnt have off field issues.   remember AJ has let his diva self show.   not getting along with his QB and such.

that hurts his value because now the team getting him have to concern themselves with whether they will have to contend with this Diva WR and how difficult it will be.

 

Id suggest a first is the very max theyd get for him under normal circumstances.    the other thing to concen ourselves with is ..... how many other teams are in the bidding.  I have not heard of anyone else showing interest in AJ. (not publicly anyhow)

my understanding is that there was a bidding war for Waddle.  so that is a different situation in the sense that a bidding war usually drives the price to the very max anyone is willing to pay.

[Maximum Overkill]

1 hour ago, Ray_T said:

waddle doesnt have off field issues. 

AJ never had off the field issues. He's always been a model citizen, great teammate and great Eagle. He definitely likes to voice his displeasure but it's never affected the team or performance. 

I think that's an unfair image that comes with someone as outspoken as he is. What has he done that's so bad? 

[JagFan]

On 5/1/2026 at 5:22 PM, Maximum Overkill said:

Waddle got a 1st, 3rd and 4th. 

AJ is a dominating true #1 WR and is only months older than Waddle. Why on earth would Roseman settle for less than the Waddle deal? He'd be a fool to do so and a fool he's not. 

I can guarantee you that it won't be for anything less than a 1st+

 

Simply looking at this at “face value” is totally wrong.  Waddle cost what he cost because of what he does specifically to that coaches offense.  That price for Waddle will make Sutton an all pro this year based on the offensive scheme that particular coach runs.  Denver just bought a field stretcher to open up the offense.  The pay was for the fit and this is a great example of you playing checkers and others playing chess.  I get that you don’t see it right now, and you won’t understand it when it unfolds…but that’s what happened with this trade.

[weepaws]

The pay for AJ Brown would be for him to dominate, his fit would be a true wr1 .  Broncos over paid for Waddle if his only value is to make Sutton better imo, that type of jive just sounds stupid. Imo

[JagFan]

18 hours ago, weepaws said:

The pay for AJ Brown would be for him to dominate, his fit would be a true wr1 .  Broncos over paid for Waddle if his only value is to make Sutton better imo, that type of jive just sounds stupid. Imo

Could be one of the reasons you’re posting opinions on a message board instead of coaching in the NFL.  Imo 

[Maximum Overkill]

On 5/4/2026 at 1:20 AM, weepaws said:

Broncos over paid for Waddle if his only value is to make Sutton better imo,

You're over evaluating Sutton. He's a #2 on a good day. AJ is a proven 1

[weepaws]

7 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You're over evaluating Sutton. He's a #2 on a good day. AJ is a proven 1

Exactly 

[Maximum Overkill]

14 hours ago, weepaws said:

Exactly 

What exactly is your point Weepaws? You're even more awkward here than in the Geek Forum. You can put away the gimmick now, we're talking football. 

 

[Maximum Overkill]

 

[Ray_T]

apparently he was seen inquiring about a condo in the New England area.  

not sure how much substance there was to that report

[Maximum Overkill]

9 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

apparently he was seen inquiring about a condo in the New England area.  

not sure how much substance there was to that report

Probably legit. 

This deal had to be done for months already. There's not even a peep about other teams 

[Ray_T]

8 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Probably legit. 

This deal had to be done for months already. There's not even a peep about other teams 

that was my thinking as well.   if other teams wanted to get in on it, now would (theoretically) be the time and its been crickets.

so the insiders likely know that wherever he goes after June 1 is likely a done deal already

[Maximum Overkill]

2 hours ago, Ray_T said:

that was my thinking as well.   if other teams wanted to get in on it, now would (theoretically) be the time and its been crickets.

so the insiders likely know that wherever he goes after June 1 is likely a done deal already

Yup, and Roseman is too smart. I'm sure he covered his asss every which way. If he can get a 2027 1st for AJ then I consider it a win. That draft is absolutely loaded. 

[Ray_T]

4 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Yup, and Roseman is too smart. I'm sure he covered his asss every which way. If he can get a 2027 1st for AJ then I consider it a win. That draft is absolutely loaded. 

if hes disgruntled as I suspect he is, I'd say its probably a win just getting him out of that dressing room, regardless of the price paid.

as far as I'm concerned anything over and above the price of a 3rd round pick is probably a win.

My bet was that they got a 2nd,  but given how patient everyone has been perhaps you are right.  maybe its a first.   anything less than that price and the team would probably still be shopping him to see if they can shake loose a better offer.

[weepaws]

7 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Yup, and Roseman is too smart. I'm sure he covered his asss every which way. If he can get a 2027 1st for AJ then I consider it a win. That draft is absolutely loaded. 

Agreed