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I just read that the Raiders want another RB, to go with Jeanty said HC Kubiak

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Seems like building around him would be the best move,  I find out interesting that they might just add another rb to run to darkness  

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This adds significant risk to Jeanty.  Seems like Kubiak will want to duplicate the Charbonnet/Walker scenario which diminished the fantasy value of both.  Unless the Raiders really turn it around, Jeanty could have very little fantasy value.  Usually, only really good teams can support two fantasy viable RBs (Monty/Gibbs with the Lions come to mind, but even that slipped last season as the Lions fell back to the pack and Gibbs kind of emerged as the clear lead back).  Even with the Seahawks the last season, I'm not sure that both Walker and Charbonnet were worthy no-brainer fantasy starters.  Charb certainly seemed to get most of the higher value touches throughout the season, but you never really felt all that confident starting him.

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It's going to stink,  I was hoping to target Jeanty next season, his value should already drop from last season.

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3 hours ago, Showboat said:

This adds significant risk to Jeanty.  Seems like Kubiak will want to duplicate the Charbonnet/Walker scenario which diminished the fantasy value of both.  Unless the Raiders really turn it around, Jeanty could have very little fantasy value.  Usually, only really good teams can support two fantasy viable RBs (Monty/Gibbs with the Lions come to mind, but even that slipped last season as the Lions fell back to the pack and Gibbs kind of emerged as the clear lead back).  Even with the Seahawks the last season, I'm not sure that both Walker and Charbonnet were worthy no-brainer fantasy starters.  Charb certainly seemed to get most of the higher value touches throughout the season, but you never really felt all that confident starting him.

I think the exact opposite.  I think this makes Jeanty better.  Last year, RB's not named Jeanty tallied a grand total of 41 carries and 19 receptions for an abysmal 60 combined touches.  Last year, McCaffrey was the RB1, his backup alone had 100 touches.  Robinson was RB2, his backup alone had 157 touches.  Gibbs was RB3, his backup alone had 182 touches.  Achane was RB5, his two backups had 77 & 75 touches, for 152.  Of the top 5 RB's last year, 4 had their backups at least double, the total number of touches that Jeanty's backup's did.  Go back to last year, Barkley and Henry.  Both the Eagles and Ravens backup RB's had over 120 touches, again, more than double what Vegas' backups accrued.  Jeanty can't do it on his one, no one can.

The reason that Charbonnet/Walker dichotemy was in place was because both were "solid" RB's, neither was great.  If a Seattle type result happens in Vegas, it's because Jeanty isn't as great as he was supposed to be, not because of the system at play.

They Raiders don't need another RB who's really good, just one who can actually not be a detriment.  The Raiders also need a WR who doesn't blow chunks.  If they have a good WR, along with Bowers, and a competent QB, Jeanty could potentially be a top 5 RB, regardless of who's in the backfield with him.

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Sounds more like a 1a,1b situation  

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56 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The reason that Charbonnet/Walker dichotemy was in place was because both were "solid" RB's, neither was great.  If a Seattle type result happens in Vegas, it's because Jeanty isn't as great as he was supposed to be, not because of the system at play.

Not sure I agree with this.  Neither was great because the opportunities for both were limited and split pretty evenly.  In the post-season, Walker obviously showed that he could be great if given more opportunities.

Clearly the era of the feature back is mostly over.  Presumably backs like Gibbs and Robinson could put up much bigger numbers if they weren't getting vultured by Monty and Allgeier, but perhaps the load reduction keeps them fresher and more healthy.  There is obviously a balance there, but from a fantasy perspective you'd much rather have an Emmitt Smith-type who you knew was getting all of the redzone carries and only coming off the field for a handful of plays each game (presuming, of course, that they can stay healthy with the workload).   

 

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I lot of the reason we don't see the work horse, is money  

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15 hours ago, Showboat said:

Not sure I agree with this.  Neither was great because the opportunities for both were limited and split pretty evenly.  In the post-season, Walker obviously showed that he could be great if given more opportunities.

Clearly the era of the feature back is mostly over.  Presumably backs like Gibbs and Robinson could put up much bigger numbers if they weren't getting vultured by Monty and Allgeier, but perhaps the load reduction keeps them fresher and more healthy.  There is obviously a balance there, but from a fantasy perspective you'd much rather have an Emmitt Smith-type who you knew was getting all of the redzone carries and only coming off the field for a handful of plays each game (presuming, of course, that they can stay healthy with the workload).   

 

I actually agree with you, but we've seen with Walker, that he can't take the pounding of a 300 touch season.  This year was the first one where he's made it the whole 17 games.  That's why he's not an elite guy like the others I mentioned.  If Kubiak wants to implement a 250 touch workload scenario in Vegas and Jeanty is an elite back, he will force Kubiak into giving him more touches.

 

 

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Qb to start with

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Yeah surely they will add another RB in an effort to keep Jeanty healthy and not overworked. They will definitely NOT take an RB with the first overall pick which should be a lock for QB Mendoza. There could be some veteran rb's pop up in free agency OR they have 2 picks in the 4th round where they could maneuver those picks to move up.into.an.earlier.round to take an RB they really like. Yes, even with having Jeanty and Bowers they should focus on building around their 1st pick of Mendoza, which should be a priority. There's some decent defensive talent available in later rounds they should draft because if you're pressured to score more than your opponet on offense.every week it'll bit you in the arse. Even with Mendoza I don't see them making the playoffs this year, I could be wrong.and they are still at least 2 to 3 years for them being playoff material. If they continue to.strive to be a formidable franchise they better nail this year's draft picks.

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On 2/28/2026 at 11:05 PM, Super Cubs said:

I can understand wanting a good running game, but Raiders need a lot.  I think there are more important areas to fucus on

Lol, they have 2nd most cap space.  Pick first each round and have 10 picks.   

I think they have enough time and resources to add a backup RB.  

Not sure why people are freaking out about this.  The coach just wanted to run 2 backs most season until Charbonnet got hurt.  This isnt that shocking.  

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On 3/1/2026 at 11:36 AM, DocNiner said:

Yeah surely they will add another RB in an effort to keep Jeanty healthy and not overworked. They will definitely NOT take an RB with the first overall pick which should be a lock for QB Mendoza. There could be some veteran rb's pop up in free agency OR they have 2 picks in the 4th round where they could maneuver those picks to move up.into.an.earlier.round to take an RB they really like. Yes, even with having Jeanty and Bowers they should focus on building around their 1st pick of Mendoza, which should be a priority. There's some decent defensive talent available in later rounds they should draft because if you're pressured to score more than your opponet on offense.every week it'll bit you in the arse. Even with Mendoza I don't see them making the playoffs this year, I could be wrong.and they are still at least 2 to 3 years for them being playoff material. If they continue to.strive to be a formidable franchise they better nail this year's draft picks.

you dont need to spend a first on that.  

With the #1 overall pick I think they gotta take a QB if they think hes franchise calibre.

I guess they could take a backup rb in round 2 or 3, but I think it would be smarter to upgrade the line.   if spending all that draft capital on a QB it makes sense to protect your investment some.   They could sign an O line guy and draft one in round 2.   you can get a decent right tackle or a top notch Guard or Centre with an early 2nd round pick. Those positions rarely go in round 1.  its almost always left tackles in round 1.  Right tackles, guards, and centers in round 2 and 3

 

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The Raiders are a train wreck, taking a rb before mid of the draft would be a mistake imo, load up on helping to produce run game, and a qb  

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8 hours ago, weepaws said:

The Raiders are a train wreck, taking a rb before mid of the draft would be a mistake imo, load up on helping to produce run game, and a qb  

I dont disagree.   so maybe a second RB is what they do because its exactly what they dont need

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I think the Raiders will do what they don't need imo  

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15 hours ago, weepaws said:

The Raiders are a train wreck, taking a rb before mid of the draft would be a mistake imo, load up on helping to produce run game, and a qb  

Am I missing something here between thie post and Rays?  

For Ray, no one has mentioned Raiders spending a 1st on a RB again as that is wacky.  

Is anyone insinuating they will spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a RB?  

You guys are freaking out about this idea the new coach wants another RB.  They dont have a viable backup on the roster.  Why are you guys losing your mind over the Raiders wanting to add a backup?  Or am I missing something here?

 

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16 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Am I missing something here between thie post and Rays?  

For Ray, no one has mentioned Raiders spending a 1st on a RB again as that is wacky.  

Is anyone insinuating they will spend a 2nd or 3rd rounder on a RB?  

You guys are freaking out about this idea the new coach wants another RB.  They dont have a viable backup on the roster.  Why are you guys losing your mind over the Raiders wanting to add a backup?  Or am I missing something here?

 

I think he's the only one thinking a first.  I was thinking, as posted, that maybe they're a team who could pursue Rachaad White.

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On 3/1/2026 at 11:36 AM, DocNiner said:

Yeah surely they will add another RB in an effort to keep Jeanty healthy and not overworked. They will definitely NOT take an RB with the first overall pick

 

5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

For Ray, no one has mentioned Raiders spending a 1st on a RB again as that is wacky.

these two quotes go together.   I was responding by saying no.  not a first on a RB.    but... it is the raiders, so maybe it happens.    but I do agree, it would be over the top wacky to do something like that.

personally I'd sign a veteran to be his backup and who can calm him if things are going sideways in a game.  Jeanty should be able to be a full on workhorse.  you just want that experience behind him.  not another rookie.

and no I dont think a backup is that important other than to support Jeanty.    I'd prefer a veteran for the role, there are lots out there.     and use those precious draft picks to solidify the O and D lines.    Like I said earlier, if you think the best QB in the class is a franchise QB, you need to take him.  if you dont, you can take the best LT in the draft or trade down.

for me thats how I'd do things.

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I don't know what rd they might take a rb on the draft, but, I think before the mid of the draft wouldn't be wise, they need to build an oline to help produce a solid run game, and of course, in a qb driven league, they need one of those also. A vet to back up, would be a good move for Jeanty owners, but of the do draft another rb early, not good news for Jeanty owners imo. 

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On 3/5/2026 at 2:05 AM, weepaws said:

A vet to back up, would be a good move for Jeanty owners

Agree and I think that's what they'll do. It would make no sense to bring in a rookie to back up a year 2 RB. There's decent veteran options that won't cost much. 

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3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Agree and I think that's what they'll do. It would make no sense to bring in a rookie to back up a year 2 RB. There's decent veteran options that won't cost much. 

Joe Mixon's available!  He apparently only has one functional foot but he's available.

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Never bet on a three legged horse, and do not pick up a one legged rb  

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2 hours ago, weepaws said:

Never bet on a three legged horse, and do not pick up a one legged rb  

also never date a woman who has the same name as a state.    and Never bet on the Browns and/or Raiders in the long run

might be able to add the Phins to that list.

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Never play pool with a guy who's first name is a city and a state

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Never play pool with a guy who's first name is a city and or a state

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2 hours ago, Drogon said:

Or poker.

Amen 

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