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My guess is the shrinking middle class, diminishing social services, the widening wealth gap, and the very public insane wealth of a few hundred people are the major factors driving this.

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With the way the economy is going under Trump and the prices of everything rising, why should anyone be surprised that Socialism is gaining ground?

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SUXBNME FF Geek

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Just now, squistion said:

With the way the economy is going under Trump and the prices of everything rising, why should anyone be surprised that Socialism is gaining ground?

Would you be in support of socialism here?  Honest question

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22 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

Would you be in support of socialism here?  Honest question

Honest answer: Certainly not overall and only in some very limited instances.

Social Security and Medicare are arguably Socialist policies. I would like to see Medical Health Care in this county managed by the government instead of private for-profit insurance companies (as it is in almost all major industrialized nations). 

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20 minutes ago, squistion said:

Honest answer: Certainly not overall and only in some very limited instances.

Social Security and Medicare are arguably Socialist policies. I would like to see Medical Health Care in this county managed by the government instead of private for-profit insurance companies (as it is in almost all major industrialized nations). 

The way social security is managed is one of the great abominations of how government manages things.  Id love to see what we can do with first before taking more on. 

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3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

The way social security is managed is one of the great abominations of how government manages things.  Id love to see what we can do with first before taking more on. 

As much as I thought GW Bush was a disaster, had his private savings accounts passed we could be a lot better off today in both wealth individually, as well as less future debt obligation for the federal government.

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33 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

JFC.  Social security is not socialism 

Wtf is wrong with people???

Yes, it arguably is a form of socialism because:

Arguments for Social Security as a Form of Socialism:
  • Government-Run: It is a government-run system that replaces private, market-driven options.
  • Redistribution: It functions as a form of wealth redistribution, as current workers' taxes pay for current retirees' benefits.
  • Mandatory: It is a mandatory program that forces participation, rather than a voluntary market product. 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Mark Davis said:

As much as I thought GW Bush was a disaster, had his private savings accounts passed we could be a lot better off today in both wealth individually, as well as less future debt obligation for the federal government.

I agree. Unfortunately, the Democrats used fear mongering to convince the low information crowd that they'd lose everything if we had a market correction.

I brought the subject up at work. People get very emotional about Social Security and I almost got into a fight with one of the hard-core Dems.

The girl that worked in the quality assurance lab was concerned enough to contact some guy named Tim Walz, who was the Representative for Minnesota's 1st Congressional District @ the time. 

She forwarded his reply to me.

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1B3SW1

BTW: The subject of SS came up recently and you said it would have to be means tested at some point. I suggested that already happened back in 1983 & again in 1993.

Did you ever research that ?

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11 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yes, it arguably is a form of socialism because:

Arguments for Social Security as a Form of Socialism:
  • Government-Run: It is a government-run system that replaces private, market-driven options.
  • Redistribution: It functions as a form of wealth redistribution, as current workers' taxes pay for current retirees' benefits.
  • Mandatory: It is a mandatory program that forces participation, rather than a voluntary market product. 

 

 

It only became socialized in 1983 when Congress decided that some people should have to pay taxes on up to 50% of their SS check/income. 10 years later, they upped that to 80%. Fockhead Biden voted in favor both times. The worst part, they didn't even have the decency to adjust the figures where taxation begins, for inflation.

 

 

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Fine by me.

Blue voters deserve blue solutions to blue problems.

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53 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

I agree. Unfortunately, the Democrats used fear mongering to convince the low information crowd that they'd lose everything if we had a market correction.

I brought the subject up at work. People get very emotional about Social Security and I almost got into a fight with one of the hard-core Dems.

The girl that worked in the quality assurance lab was concerned enough to contact some guy named Tim Walz, who was the Representative for Minnesota's 1st Congressional District @ the time. 

She forwarded his reply to me.

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME1B3SW1

BTW: The subject of SS came up recently and you said it would have to be means tested at some point. I suggested that already happened back in 1983 & again in 1993.

Did you ever research that ?

Regards

 

I did, I hadn't realized it.  It appears to be in related to taxation of SS.  Essentially though that does function as a means test.

It's easy to fearmonger when it comes to markets, especially in times of uncertainty.  The most educated among us with financial backgrounds often get over our skis or fail to be allocated properly when times are bad.  I know I've made plenty of mistakes, I try to learn from them.  It is a shame that wasn't supported though, lots of wealth could have been gained by average Americans who never participated in the market gains that we've had.  People don't want to let go of government being their big brother to catch them.  There's a price to pay for that, and those who haven't participated at all in market gains since then have paid the greatest price.

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3 hours ago, squistion said:

Honest answer: Certainly not overall and only in some very limited instances.

Social Security and Medicare are arguably Socialist policies. I would like to see Medical Health Care in this county managed by the government instead of private for-profit insurance companies (as it is in almost all major industrialized nations). 

Even though I disagree with your opinion with SS and MHC being run by .gov, I appreciate your honest response. 
I'd prefer interstate commerce being tried wit]h insurance, right? 

The key phrase you said was "limited instances".  I totally respect that.  I don't know what your idea of what limited instances are or what could be, but I get what you are saying.  :cheers:

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College students don't even know what socialism is  

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They have no natural immunity to attacks from their left.See the Carville/Omar thread.  They're only move, when not just capitulating, is to make promises, then not follow through. Those two actions are what they've done 1000 times out of 1000.

Its why I support reparations in blue sh*tholes. Blue voters should live with the consequences of being sh*tty evil retarded people. I get pissed off when leftoids leave blue sh*tholes, move to red ones, and bring their blue sh*thole values, beliefs, retardation, and votes with them. Fock off, leftoids. Go home you worthless pieces of sh*t.

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People moving left is what happens when you elect a clown instead of a humble, effective, selfless moderate conservative who does what's in the country's best interest instead of his own and doesn't spend so much time pandering to his base, engaging in rage posting in the middle of the night and being childishly vindictive.

Attacking the pope and posting images of himself depicted as Jesus isn't exactly firing up his base in positive ways for him.

The political pendulum is swinging the other way, and the Blue Bloodbath is coming.

This is what you get.

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3 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

You know this is all BS but you post this crap 40x a day. 

The President just talked about it in his own tweet on his own social media platform that he owns because he’s president.

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On 3/5/2026 at 6:27 PM, supermike80 said:

JFC.  Social security is not socialism 

Wtf is wrong with people???

But it has the word "social" in it. 

Derp. 

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2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

But it has the word "social" in it. 

Derp. 

Social Security was called socialism and worse (communism)  when it was introduced during the New Deal. So was Medicare. 
 

Every time in our history that liberals have proposed a government program of this sort conservatives have attacked it as socialism. That has weakened the credibility of conservatives who throw this label around. 

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1 minute ago, Caine Mutiny said:

Social Security was called socialism and worse (communism)  when it was introduced during the New Deal. So was Medicare. 
 

Every time in our history that liberals have proposed a government program of this sort conservatives have attacked it as socialism. That has weakened the credibility of conservatives who throw this label around. 

It was joke. 

Go touch grass. 

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3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

It was joke. 

Go touch grass. 

I know it was a joke. Still thought it was an important point. 
 

I am headed on a morning walk and will be touching grass shortly. 

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18 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

Social Security was called socialism and worse (communism)  when it was introduced during the New Deal. So was Medicare. 
 

Every time in our history that liberals have proposed a government program of this sort conservatives have attacked it as socialism. That has weakened the credibility of conservatives who throw this label around. 

now do racist and homophobic

 

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

sure guy, the problem is you change to word change the word change the word and they mean absolutely nothing

Nope, sorry, they always mean the exact same things. 

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