Democrats Shutdown

[thegeneral]

2 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

And their big holdup is not having ice agents outside of polling stations. Now, why on earth would they be concerned about that? Or better yet if you’re a LEGAL citizen, why would you be concerned if they are there or not?
 

scumbags

Probably don’t want any of those dudes shooting them in the face.

[FrancieFootball]

MAGAs think it has to be there way or the highway with each and every thing.

We have a two-party system with political checks and balances.

MAGAs would prefer an authoritarian regime with no compromise.

I applaud the Democrats here. We can't have MAGAs running roughshod over the Constitution.

[thegeneral]

Maybe make sure the next dummy they have running DHS doesn’t sneak a quarter of a BILLION into the budget for an ad campaign.

[Engorgeous George]

1 minute ago, Engorgeous George said:

This makes me curious since it has been maybe 20 years since I have been to the polls what with my state hainge mail in ballots. Waht percentage of votes are still cast in person for a national election.  I guess I can go and look. 

 

I do note that electoral power  in this country hinges on a few votes in a few precincts in a few states so I would not be wondering about this to diminish any voter suppression as any voter suppression could be significant voter suppression.  At the same token any voter fraud could as well.  I recognize the possiblity for either.  I don't know that either has been shown in the recent past to any great degree, but I do note  some examples of each have been reported and some of those reports strike me as accurate. 

Dont know how accurate googling such a query is worth but looks to be some consensus that around 1/3rd of votes are cast by mail in ballot.  I would ahve thought it more.  That bias on my part is likely due to personal experience where in person voting has been repalced for 20 years now.  Maybe this year I will eschew my mail in ballot and stand in line at a polling place just for the nostalgia.  

[squistion]

4 minutes ago, FrancieFootball said:

MAGAs think it has to be there way or the highway with each and every thing.

We have a two-party system with political checks and balances.

MAGAs would prefer an authoritarian regime with no compromise.

I applaud the Democrats here. We can't have MAGAs running roughshod over the Constitution.

Of course they would, if the comments of many posters in this forum are indicative of how most MAGA's think.

[cyclone24]

6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Probably don’t want any of those dudes shooting them in the face.

Hmm probably shouldn’t get in the way of federal officers enforcing federal laws. It’s weird how that works when you’re not trying to be an insufferable jackass how rare bad things happen to you….

[Engorgeous George]

Question -  The courts ahve more or less unanimously staterd profiling on race or apparent race is unconsititutional.  Its pretty similar for creed.  Not so by profession or job.  ICE can and does inspect agricultural, construction, hospice care, and food packing industries far more than other industries.  Statistically they are right to do so, but statistics aside, given the high correlation of race to those industries is profiling on profession or job the next battleground?

[cyclone24]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Of course they would, if the comments of many posters in this forum are indicative of how most MAGA's think.

Holy pot and kettle. You guys have been obstructionist every step of the way whether it’s forcing shut downs, suing at every opportunity (in the Supreme Court, generally smacking you down ) stalling appointments, and my God you guys don’t take a piss without checking with each other and you all vote the exact same way. The will of the people is absolutely the last things on your mind at any point.
 

Try not to fall off your high horse 

[Engorgeous George]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

Of course they would, if the comments of many posters in this forum are indicative of how most MAGA's think.

I believe both sides of the political spectrum dream of unfettered power with no compromise with the opposite, or apparently opposite side of the spectrum.  I am glad that neither side has their way in that regard for long, if at all.

[Strike]

9 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Dont know how accurate googling such a query is worth but looks to be some consensus that around 1/3rd of votes are cast by mail in ballot.  I would ahve thought it more.  That bias on my part is likely due to personal experience where in person voting has been repalced for 20 years now.  Maybe this year I will eschew my mail in ballot and stand in line at a polling place just for the nostalgia.  

I don't think you'll find much of a line, if any.  I haven't voted in person but oftentimes I drop my ballot off at a ballot box near my house at the community college which also does mail in voting.  When looking for the drop off box I've wandered in to the area where you can vote in person and it's pretty much a ghost town other than the old people volunteering to run the polling location.  I think most Coloradans have embraced mail in voting.

[thegeneral]

5 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Hmm probably shouldn’t get in the way of federal officers enforcing federal laws. It’s weird how that works when you’re not trying to be an insufferable jackass how rare bad things happen to you….

They know they focked up. It’s why they canned the little fella who was running the Minneapolis operation, why they then left completely, and don’t talk about this anymore.

 

 

[thegeneral]

If this bullshet is in any way taking away mail-in these can really go piss up a rope.

It’s an infinitely better way to do this.

[cyclone24]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

They know they focked up. It’s why they canned the little fella who was running the Minneapolis operation, why they then left completely, and don’t talk about this anymore.

 

 

Not really. I think if anything they underestimated what obstructionist jerk offs Liberals are in that city. Let those liberal cities rot and don’t fund them. They can wallow in their own sewage.  
 

[Engorgeous George]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

I don't think you'll find much of a line, if any.  I haven't voted in person but oftentimes I drop my ballot off at a ballot box near my house at the community college which also does mail in voting.  When looking for the drop off box I've wandered in to the area where you can vote in person and it's pretty much a ghost town other than the old people volunteering to run the polling location.  I think most Coloradans have embraced mail in voting.

And with good reason.  The last time I voted in person I stood in line outside the polling palce (a local grade school) for two hours in a snow storm.  Now I get my ballot maybe 18 days before it is due.  I fill it out at my leisure and I drop it off at one of the three collection boxes within a mile of my home.  When I still worked my workplace was also a drop off location so it could not ahve been more convenient.

[squistion]

7 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Holy pot and kettle. You guys have been obstructionist every step of the way whether it’s forcing shut downs, suing at every opportunity (in the Supreme Court, generally smacking you down ) stalling appointments, and my God you guys don’t take a piss without checking with each other and you all vote the exact same way. The will of the people is absolutely the last things on your mind at any point.
 

Try not to fall off your high horse 

Yeah, especially when Trump is acting illegally and unconstitutionally...we are kinda funny about that. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

1 hour ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

Name the branch of government Democrats control. 

MAGA really is the dumbest, most gullible group in America. Actively a drain on the country. 

No clue how his own government works. Stay stupid. Knowledge may break you completely. 

[Engorgeous George]

6 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Not really. I think if anything they underestimated what obstructionist jerk offs Liberals are in that city. Let those liberal cities rot and don’t fund them. They can wallow in their own sewage.  
 

I have never understood forcing enforcement in sanctuary jurisdictions.  Enforce where it is welcome and let the sanctuaries be sanctuaries.  If sanctaury policies are beneficial we would soon learn.  I do note that I would have some concerns about votes cast in sanctuary jurisidictions in national elections as the desire to protect those folks could easily morph into or could include the desire to fully enfranchise them.  Those willing to defy federal law in one matter might well be willing to do so in other related matters.

[Frozenbeernuts]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

DHS agents have detained enough legal immigrants and American citizens that the message came through loud and clear: if you're brown, you're under suspicion and subject to detainment. To have agents at polling places would be voter intimidation.

Do you understand the concept of law?

Show youre id and you will be fine. See how simple that was? No need to get all worked up about it.

[squistion]

1 hour ago, Grace Under Pressure said:

Name the branch of government Democrats control. 

MAGA really is the dumbest, most gullible group in America. Actively a drain on the country. 

They can't but they still blame the Democrats when the Republicans should be able to steamroll anything they want done.

[Engorgeous George]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Show youre id and you will be fine. See how simple that was? No need to get all worked up about it.

I try to not show my id or my superego.

[thegeneral]

13 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Not really. I think if anything they underestimated what obstructionist jerk offs Liberals are in that city. Let those liberal cities rot and don’t fund them. They can wallow in their own sewage.  
 

If they thought this was hunky dory they wouldn’t have left. Donald gets off on this type of political theater - it’s a big part why he picked Minneapolis.

But they killed a couple Americans in the span of a like a week and it turns out that’s not popular.

[Strike]

14 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I have never understood forcing enforcement in sanctuary jurisdictions.  Enforce where it is welcome and let the sanctuaries be sanctuaries.  If sanctaury policies are beneficial we would soon learn.  I do note that I would have some concerns about votes cast in sanctuary jurisidictions in national elections as the desire to protect those folks could easily morph into or could include the desire to fully enfranchise them.  Those willing to defy federal law in one matter might well be willing to do so in other related matters.

Let me 'splain it to you.  In this country we have freedom of movement.  So there's nothing to prevent a bad hombre from committing a crime in a place like Aurora, CO, and then hightailing it to Waltz's Minnesota where they know law enforcement is much more lax.  Then, when the heat is off, they can freely move to another locale (or back to Aurora) and commit MORE crimes against the great citizens of this country.   Well, I live close enough to Aurora to care about bad hombres that might be committing crimes there and I'd like them to get caught, preferably before they Laken Riley someone I care about.   

[cyclone24]

36 minutes ago, squistion said:

Yeah, especially when Trump is acting illegally and unconstitutionally...we are kinda funny about that. 

Yeah, I mean other than you keep getting slapped down in the Supreme Court sure

[cyclone24]

34 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I have never understood forcing enforcement in sanctuary jurisdictions.  Enforce where it is welcome and let the sanctuaries be sanctuaries.  If sanctaury policies are beneficial we would soon learn.  I do note that I would have some concerns about votes cast in sanctuary jurisidictions in national elections as the desire to protect those folks could easily morph into or could include the desire to fully enfranchise them.  Those willing to defy federal law in one matter might well be willing to do so in other related matters.

Well, I mean other than the rampant fraud going on because of them in the cities

[cyclone24]

28 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

If they thought this was hunky dory they wouldn’t have left. Donald gets off on this type of political theater - it’s a big part why he picked Minneapolis.

But they killed a couple Americans in the span of a like a week and it turns out that’s not popular.

Sure something it’s optics. Like you wouldn’t knowingly go to restaurants were just full of screaming, crying toddlers.
But where you’re wrong is that you think there’s not support for getting rid of these illegals.

If you have a couple liberal dumb ass white people to get in the way and get themselves yeeted? That’s on them.

[thegeneral]

5 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Sure something it’s optics. Like you wouldn’t knowingly go to restaurants were just full of screaming, crying toddlers.
But where you’re wrong is that you think there’s not support for getting rid of these illegals.

If you have a couple liberal dumb ass white people to get in the way and get themselves yeeted? That’s on them.

But in this instance Trump loves the screaming libs, that’s a winner for him. It’s when these cops starting killing people, that’s a loser for him.

You think he gives a shet about Minneapolis? Houston has 10x the illegals.

[cyclone24]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

But in this instance Trump loves the screaming libs, that’s a winner for him. It’s when these cops starting killing people, that’s a loser for him.

You think he gives a shet about Minneapolis? Houston has 10x the illegals.

Weird like I said why don’t we have nearly as many problems deporting them there when as you just said yourself there’s 10 times more? And they deport multiple times more.

It’s because the left doesn’t care about the will of the American people and they voted for this. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

An illegal immigrant can come here and get a CDL without knowing how to read or write. Any language. But our own people can’t get an ID. Yeah, ok.  

[thegeneral]

38 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Weird like I said why don’t we have nearly as many problems deporting them there when as you just said yourself there’s 10 times more? And they deport multiple times more.

It’s because the left doesn’t care about the will of the American people and they voted for this. 

There’s way more in Houston. He picks lib cities for these optics. That’s what it appears to  me. Everything with this guy is a win or a loss, particularly what benefits him.

[squistion]

2 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Yeah, I mean other than you keep getting slapped down in the Supreme Court sure

Not that many cases have made it to SCOTUS, most are still working there way up in the appeal process, I believe.

[squistion]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Not that many cases have made it up to SCOTUS, most are still working there way up in the appeal process, I believe.

 

[seafoam1]

6 hours ago, Red White and Blue said:

Good. But they’ll cave. They always do.

Ok mdc. You do you.  But the mods don't want you here. 

[Engorgeous George]

5 hours ago, Strike said:

Let me 'splain it to you.  In this country we have freedom of movement.  So there's nothing to prevent a bad hombre from committing a crime in a place like Aurora, CO, and then hightailing it to Waltz's Minnesota where they know law enforcement is much more lax.  Then, when the heat is off, they can freely move to another locale (or back to Aurora) and commit MORE crimes against the great citizens of this country.   Well, I live close enough to Aurora to care about bad hombres that might be committing crimes there and I'd like them to get caught, preferably before they Laken Riley someone I care about.   

I just prefer the resources be spent where they are most appreciated, at least initially.  Let Minneapolis wallow it it wants, at least until nonsancutauary Cities and states get the benefit of removal first.  As for Aurora, there was a time when it was bright red.  Now it is solid blue.  It is running a deficit and has prioritized virtue signalling and providing services which are the duty of the State and the County while neglecting its core obligations.  Hardly an example of a well run City but the electorate has spoken.  That means some will have to vote with their feet if the current government does not adddress their concerns.  Me, my mailing address is Aurora though I actually reside in unincorporated Arapahoe County, for now.Occassionally I consider relocating to Story Wyoming or near Tomah Wisconsin were I own property.  Sometimes I try to get my wife interested indurango or Taos thoughthose areas have their own politics.  

[seafoam1]

7 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

MAGAs think it has to be there way or the highway with each and every thing.

We have a two-party system with political checks and balances.

MAGAs would prefer an authoritarian regime with no compromise.

I applaud the Democrats here. We can't have MAGAs running roughshod over the Constitution.

And you are princess rusty. That's about as bad as it gets. 

[Fnord]

16 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Show youre id and you will be fine. See how simple that was? No need to get all worked up about it.

Proof of residence didn't stop DHS agents from arresting people in Minneapolis. Why would it prevent them from engaging in voter intimidation?

[Hardcore troubadour]

Democrats do not care if we are attacked. Obviously. The squad calls the shots now. 

[Frozenbeernuts]

15 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Proof of residence didn't stop DHS agents from arresting people in Minneapolis. Why would it prevent them from engaging in voter intimidation?

You are getting worked up over nothing. Election integrity is of the utmost importance. Weird how you would disagree with this. Almost like you are afraid of what will happen when elections are secure. Weird.

[Fnord]

3 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

You are getting worked up over nothing. Election integrity is of the utmost importance. Weird how you would disagree with this. Almost like you are afraid of what will happen when elections are secure. Weird.

So no answer to my question, just deflection back to me. Gotcha. 

The problem with your rationale is that there is a massive amount of evidence that DHS was arresting people that not only had no criminal records, but were also here legally.

You don't have jackshit for evidence that voter fraud is a problem other than cockwomble making claims. Election integrity is not an issue, despite skyscreaming righties delusional claims.

[cyclone24]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

So no answer to my question, just deflection back to me. Gotcha. 

The problem with your rationale is that there is a massive amount of evidence that DHS was arresting people that not only had no criminal records, but were also here legally.

You don't have jackshit for evidence that voter fraud is a problem other than cockwomble making claims. Election integrity is not an issue, despite skyscreaming righties delusional claims.

I could literally post these all day if you would like? And by each state that has voter fraud stories over and over and those are just the ones that get caught.
 

If you guys wanna hide behind this oh scary DHS is going to come get you gibberish by all means, but don’t act like there’s not voter fraud. And being this strongly against it, definitely raises more questions about why you guys are so adamant about it. 

[Frozenbeernuts]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

So no answer to my question, just deflection back to me. Gotcha. 

The problem with your rationale is that there is a massive amount of evidence that DHS was arresting people that not only had no criminal records, but were also here legally.

You don't have jackshit for evidence that voter fraud is a problem other than cockwomble making claims. Election integrity is not an issue, despite skyscreaming righties delusional claims.

Just because you ignore what is happening with the voting investigation doesn't mean it's not real. Log off CNN for a few minutes. It will do you some good