The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, blick said: He’s going to get what he wanted. The Dems are just willing to continue to punish the people to try to prove some kind of political point. At least the Republicans are adult enough to end this madness. He wanted no deal. Republicans made a deal. Tsa will get funded. Trump has done enough damage for political points but it ends today. Democrats and Americans win. Trump loses. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: He wanted no deal. Republicans made a deal. Tsa will get funded. Trump has done enough damage for political points but it ends today. Democrats and Americans win. Trump loses. Derp. No ICE reforms and the BBB carries enough funding to keep the ICE patriots doing their great work. What did you win except pissing off travelers with your temper tantrums. Hopefully, ICE gets OT on Saturday during the roundups. Quote
blick Posted March 27 Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: He wanted no deal. Republicans made a deal. Tsa will get funded. Trump has done enough damage for political points but it ends today. Democrats and Americans win. Trump loses. Once again, the democrats held America hostage to protect illegal immigrants. Actually, they didn't even protect illegal immigrants, ICE is funded. It was all for nothing. Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Derp. No ICE reforms and the BBB carries enough funding to keep the ICE patriots doing their great work. What did you win except pissing off travelers with your temper tantrums. Hopefully, ICE gets OT on Saturday during the roundups. No additional funding for ICE is the win. Trump lost because he pissed off Americans and caved at the end by paying TSA and making a deal with the Democrats. 1 Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, blick said: Once again, the democrats held America hostage to protect illegal immigrants. Actually, they didn't even protect illegal immigrants, ICE is funded. It was all for nothing. It was never about protecting illegal immigrants. It was about no more funding until we get ice reforms. That was achieved. Yes ice is still funded we all knew that which is why it made no sense that Republicans kept blocking TSA funding. Quote
blick Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, The Psychic Observer said: It was never about protecting illegal immigrants. It was about no more funding until we get ice reforms. That was achieved. Yes ice is still funded we all knew that which is why it made no sense that Republicans kept blocking TSA funding. The Republicans (Tom Homan) offered a number of reforms including body cameras, IDs, detention oversight, and others. Apparently they didn't go far enough. In the end, they got nothing and ICE funding will still be extended through reconciliation. In the end, the Dems got nothing. Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, blick said: The Republicans (Tom Homan) offered a number of reforms including body cameras, IDs, detention oversight, and others. Apparently they didn't go far enough. In the end, they got nothing and ICE funding will still be extended through reconciliation. In the end, the Dems got nothing. The Dems got TSA funding and no more funding for ice. Exactly what they wanted and what Americans want as we head into spring break travel season. 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted March 27 Author Posted March 27 1 minute ago, The Psychic Observer said: The Dems got TSA funding and no more funding for ice. Exactly what they wanted and what Americans want as we head into spring break travel season. Ice is funded for the next three years. This is funny. Quote
blick Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: The Dems got TSA funding and no more funding for ice. Exactly what they wanted and what Americans want as we head into spring break travel season. But ICE funding will be extended through reconciliation with no reforms (at least this is how I understand it feel free to correct me). So what did they actually get beyond feeling good about themselves that they stood in the way of the bill while Americans suffered? They actually lost since the Reps were ready to provide some level of reforms. Quote
Meglamaniac Posted March 27 Posted March 27 39 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Derp. No ICE reforms and the BBB carries enough funding to keep the ICE patriots doing their great work. What did you win except pissing off travelers with your temper tantrums. Hopefully, ICE gets OT on Saturday during the roundups. BINGO Quote
Meglamaniac Posted March 27 Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: The Dems got TSA funding and no more funding for ice. Exactly what they wanted and what Americans want as we head into spring break travel season. LOL You must have missed the memo on ICE reforms, might want to check your fax machine Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 16 minutes ago, blick said: But ICE funding will be extended through reconciliation with no reforms (at least this is how I understand it feel free to correct me). So what did they actually get beyond feeling good about themselves that they stood in the way of the bill while Americans suffered? It might. Republicans can try and give more funding to ice through reconciliation. They will have to vote for it and given how unpopular ice tactics are and elections coming up they might choose not to. In the meantime Dems got what they wanted and trump didn't. Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 7 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: LOL You must have missed the memo on ICE reforms, might want to check your fax machine What did I miss? Quote
blick Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: It might. Republicans can try and give more funding to ice through reconciliation. They will have to vote for it and given how unpopular ice tactics are and elections coming up they might choose not to. In the meantime Dems got what they wanted and trump didn't. I guess if we're trying to score political points you may be right. In reality, Trump get want he wants (fully funded ICE with no reforms), Dems get nothing, America felt pain for no reason. I have no problem with ICE tactics, at least since Tom Homan took over. Quote
Meglamaniac Posted March 27 Posted March 27 18 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: What did I miss? No reforms, the crutch of the Dems reason for the shutdown Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted March 27 Author Posted March 27 I expect ICE to institute some reforms on their own, beginning with body cameras. But it will be on Homans terms. Hey Libtards, maybe time to think about new leadership? Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: No reforms, the crutch of the Dems reason for the shutdown And no additional funding, the crux not crutch, of the reason for the shutdown. Dems got that they wanted, trump didn't. 1 Quote
dogcows Posted March 27 Posted March 27 17 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: No reforms, the crutch of the Dems reason for the shutdown The demand was: if you want ICE funding, institute the reforms. They didn’t do the reforms, so they didn’t get the money. They have some surplus money from the Big Budget-Breaking Bill Benefitting Billionaires, but without their annual funding, they will not have as much money as they wanted to carry out their mass deportation fantasies. Quote
thegeneral Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Oh look. They passed this just before their vacation. Imagine that. Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Oh look. They passed this just before their vacation. Imagine that. They couldn't risk losing vacation time all the while TSA agents are not getting paid. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted March 27 Author Posted March 27 3 libtards in this thread in the last 12 hours or so that didn’t know ICE was fully funded for the next three years. Yet here they are flapping their gums. One of them is even spiking the ball. Clowns. Quote
Meglamaniac Posted March 27 Posted March 27 38 minutes ago, The Psychic Observer said: And no additional funding, the crux not crutch, of the reason for the shutdown. Dems got that they wanted, trump didn't. Nope, no reforms, they got nothing Thanks for the grammar leson Quote
Meglamaniac Posted March 27 Posted March 27 34 minutes ago, dogcows said: The demand was: if you want ICE funding, institute the reforms. They didn’t do the reforms, so they didn’t get the money. They have some surplus money from the Big Budget-Breaking Bill Benefitting Billionaires, but without their annual funding, they will not have as much money as they wanted to carry out their mass deportation fantasies. Like I said, no reforms, they got nothing for the 40+ day shutdown Quote
Meglamaniac Posted March 27 Posted March 27 33 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Oh look. They passed this just before their vacation. Imagine that. Gotta shorten up those airport lines Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Victory for the Democrats who held firm for once. The ICE reforms are coming and will happen after November. For now it’s enough to know the the majority of the public are solidly behind the Democrats on this issue as will be shown in the upcoming election. 2 Quote
blick Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, Caine Mutiny said: Victory for the Democrats who held firm for once. The ICE reforms are coming and will happen after November. For now it’s enough to know the the majority of the public are solidly behind the Democrats on this issue as will be shown in the upcoming election. So holding the country hostage and causing significant pain for our TSA agents is a victory? Quote
thegeneral Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, blick said: So holding the country hostage and causing significant pain for our TSA agents is a victory? They could have done this weeks ago. It was a forgone conclusion this would get settled in this manner. Republicans in the senate talked about this last week. They then settle it the day before their two week vacation. Both sides got a little of what they want which is fine but could have done without all the theatrics. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted March 27 Author Posted March 27 The deportations will continue. Now how about the sanctuary cities and states cut the shitt and start handing over criminals? Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 27 Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, blick said: So holding the country hostage and causing significant pain for our TSA agents is a victory? That’s on Trump. 1 Quote
blick Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: That’s on Trump. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Quote
seafoam1 Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: That’s on Trump. Wrong again. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: That’s on Trump. All on the Pedocrats Quote
Sean Mooney Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Both sides come out of this looking stupid. Not sure why people have to make this one side or the other. Quote
thegeneral Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Wrong again. 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: All on the Pedocrats When bozo was not Prex he said this was the fault of the Prez. Poor leadership. You two clapped along then like puppets Quote
The Psychic Observer Posted March 27 Posted March 27 59 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said: Nope, no reforms, they got nothing Thanks for the grammar leson They funded TSA without funding ICE which is exactly what they wanted. They won. Trump lost. Quote
thegeneral Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, Sean Mooney said: Both sides come out of this looking stupid. Not sure why people have to make this one side or the other. Pretty much. Donald sat on this for weeks though, could have headed this off. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted March 27 Posted March 27 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Both sides come out of this looking stupid. Not sure why people have to make this one side or the other. Everyone can form their own opinion. But my comment that it’s on Trump is based on what the majority of the public think per polling. 1 Quote
posty Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Meglamaniac said: Nope, no reforms, they got nothing Thanks for the grammar leson How about a spelling lesson? Quote
Sean Mooney Posted March 27 Posted March 27 3 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: Everyone can form their own opinion. But my comment that it’s on Trump is based on what the majority of the public think per polling. public polling is asking idiots to explain quantum physics. The person in office will ALWAYS get blamed. If Harris were President she'd be getting blamed. The MAGA mooks here would be saying "It's all her fault," and the deep leftist idiots here would be saying "Well...akshually it's on Republicans...." Both sides did what both sides always do. They stretched this game as far as they could pointing fingers at the other side. When it became just to the point of fingers pointing back at them they broke and "reached a deal." The deal could've been reached weeks ago but it had to go through posturing. 1 Quote
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