Maximum Overkill Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Just now, HellToupee said: They going to keep these hostages there 24/7? “Iran's terrorist regime has called on women and children to stand around power plants, on roads, and on railway lines in Iran and be used as human shields! While Mojtaba the leader has not shown himself since the start of the war, his agents hide in schools and hospitals, and he conceals himself behind the women and children standing on the front lines. But there is no cause for surprise—this is the very regime of terror and repression in Iran. A regime whose hands are stained with blood and which places no value on human lives.” They were warned, now they die. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Not following through on this war and getting complete regime change including a new constitution more or less reflecting 1969 Iran with females being educated and allowed to vote and getting forfeiture of all nuclear material and infrastructure for producing nuclear material and long range offensive weapons and not gaining acknowlegement they will not fund terrorism and will recognize right of free and unincumbured passage of shipping through the Hormuz straight will make Iran far more powerful than they were when this all began. Stopping or impeaching, or otherwise removing Trump must not now come at the cost of allowing Iran the victory of us walking away from this without accomplishment. Go on ahead and remove Trump through impeachment, though please do not make the mistake of declaring deliberate damage to infrastructure a defacto and absolute war crime as the future ramifications thereof would be catastrophic. Get rid of Trump, but rally the world to get behind Vance to finish the job absolutely. Iran needs to be removed from the world stage in its current iteration. We should, however, welcome and celebrate the birth/metamorphisis of Persia 7.0. Quote
cyclone24 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 7 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: They were warned, now they die. I don’t know I think if we send them maybe one more plane full of cash maybe now they’ll cooperate 1 Quote
Gepetto Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Why didn’t people try to stop the destruction of Aleppo, Syria? Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted April 7 Posted April 7 End Iran threat and get out of NATO on the same day would be YUGE. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Seeing some Video of the human shields. Can't help noticing that the regime still has resources for flags and banners. I saw one Iranian flag /banner that had to be 200 yards long. I don't know what that means, but It was noticeable. I also take note that the current regine has no qualms about launching missles into civilian areas of Israel as a war tactic. For them to then use human shields and to condem civilian casualties as a war crime seems inconsistent. I don't believe they can hide behind a principle they eschew. Now whether that should excuse our behavior I don't know, though I think we should rethink matters. Instead of bombing the production plants we should shift to bombing unshielded transmission lines and distribution junctions, same outcome but no casualties. And Dear Mister President, when you are pissed about leaks because they may alert what is to come, close your own damn mouth! You are the biggest leaker. You invited the immoral regime to use human shields you dolt! Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 3 hours ago, The Psychic Observer said: Not a word from the Trump voters. No one can support this behavior. What more needs to be said? I'm all in on this. Been saying it since the beginning. Scrub Iran off the planet. Why, every time you liberal dopes start another thread do you need to hear the same thing over and over from us smart people? You all refuse to listen to logic. Quote
thegeneral Posted April 7 Posted April 7 1 hour ago, posty said: Not very peaceful talk from someone that was wanting the Nobel Peace Prize a while ago... And winner of the illustrious FIFA Peace Prize! Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 38 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: They were warned, now they die. Not soon enough. Quote
squistion Posted April 7 Author Posted April 7 From NYT: Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska added to the emerging chorus of Republican unease with President Trump’s rhetoric on Iran, warning in a social media post against the kind of sweeping language that has defined the administration’s recent threats. While reaffirming that Iran’s government must be held accountable, she said the language “cannot be excused away as an attempt to gain leverage in negotiations with Iran.” Quote
cyclone24 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 The left is far more concerned with Trump’s words than they are the hundreds killed by Iran that were Americans or the thousands of their own people they have killed. That doesn’t bother them. Trump uses a word they don’t like and that’s the most important thing. Heck, we have people here you can’t even convince iran was a threat. That’s how far gone they are. 1 Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 10 minutes ago, squistion said: From NYT: Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska added to the emerging chorus of Republican unease with President Trump’s rhetoric on Iran, warning in a social media post against the kind of sweeping language that has defined the administration’s recent threats. While reaffirming that Iran’s government must be held accountable, she said the language “cannot be excused away as an attempt to gain leverage in negotiations with Iran.” You should go cry cry. Quote
squistion Posted April 7 Author Posted April 7 11 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: The left is far more concerned with Trump’s words than they are the hundreds killed by Iran that were Americans or the thousands of their own people they have killed. That doesn’t bother them. Trump uses a word they don’t like and that’s the most important thing. Heck, we have people here you can’t even convince iran was a threat. That’s how far gone they are. If the word means he is talking about destroying "a whole civilization" of a nation, then, yes, we do tend to take that seriously and think that it is the most important thing. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted April 7 Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: The left is far more concerned with Trump’s words than they are the hundreds killed by Iran that were Americans or the thousands of their own people they have killed. That doesn’t bother them. Trump uses a word they don’t like and that’s the most important thing. Heck, we have people here you can’t even convince iran was a threat. That’s how far gone they are. Language being the primarly tool of politicians it is concerning that Trump uses it carelessly. I get that there are some who would intentiaonally misconstrue whatever he says, but don't invite controversy by not thinking before speaking if you are the President and the Commander in Chief of a Counry that initiated, or escalated (depending on your historic time sense of provocations) an armed conflict impacting a volitile region of the world. 1 Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, squistion said: If the word means he is talking about the genocide of "a whole civilization" then, yes, we do tend to take that seriously and think that it is the most important thing. I'm all in to kill terrorists and have that country to start over. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Just now, Engorgeous George said: Language being the primarly tool of politicians it is concerning that Trump uses it carelessly. You don't use it carelessly and you sound terrible and wrong. So what now do you want? 1 Quote
cyclone24 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: You don't use it carelessly and you sound terrible and wrong. So what now do you want? To them somehow this is worse than Joe mumbling in front of the same leaders. They think that’s strong and Trump is weak. That’s just how they think. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted April 7 Posted April 7 2 hours ago, squistion said: If the word means he is talking about the genocide of "a whole civilization" then, yes, we do tend to take that seriously and think that it is the most important thing. The most important thing is that the world will survive Trump's term in office one way or another and we that remain will have to find our way forward. Will that way be with a revitalized Iran who has called our bluff, withstood our "justice", defied us, and has strengthened its leadership position in the region, or will it be one where a new Iran (Persia) joins /rejoins the West and uses its prosperity to enrich the lifes of its people and humanity as a whole? Getting Trump, securing power to the Democrats who have contributed mightily to the Iran problem the last 47 years is not high on my list of concerns and neither, of course, is stroking the ego of a narcissist. Those players change, they serve themselves and their buddies. Me, I worry about serving the interests of my children and grandchildren. 1 Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: To them somehow this is worse than Joe mumbling in front of the same leaders. They think that’s strong and Trump is weak. That’s just how they think. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted April 7 Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: To them somehow this is worse than Joe mumbling in front of the same leaders. They think that’s strong and Trump is weak. That’s just how they think. That I am not one of you does not make me one of them. There are more than two tribes. Quote
dogcows Posted April 7 Posted April 7 7 hours ago, HotRod said: Why is JD Vance in Hungary? I thought he was the new fraud czar He should be in Mogadishu Minnesota. He’s been hard at work making sure to do something fraudulent every day since he got his new title! Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: To them somehow this is worse than Joe mumbling in front of the same leaders. They think that’s strong and Trump is weak. That’s just how they think. They are really dumb and try hard to pretend they are smart. Doesn't work. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Just now, dogcows said: He’s been hard at work making sure to do something fraudulent every day since he got his new title! Cool story. Sucks for you your life is so bad, but honestly, I don't think anyone cares. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Trump needs to be mindful that his power to wage unilateral conflict without the authorization of Congress ends soon. He is on the clock. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Just now, Engorgeous George said: Trump needs to be mindful that his power to wage unilateral conflict without the authorization of Congress ends soon. He is on the clock. Cool story. We all know he only has 3 years left. 1 Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 So liberals want to stop stripping Iran of their ability to cause terrorism throughout the world. Wow. They really hate America. Quote
Gepetto Posted April 7 Posted April 7 We attacked Iran and allowed Israel to murder their leader all because Steve Witkoff interpreted Iran's negotiations as not serious yet Trump just yaps with sensationalism and unclarity to Iran constantly. I'm really sick of him and this unnecessary war he started. Also Trump said we obliterated Iran's nuclear capability back in Summer 2025 yet goes to war Feb 2026 because of the scary nukes!!!! Quote
cyclone24 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: So liberals want to stop stripping Iran of their ability to cause terrorism throughout the world. Wow. They really hate America. They want to keep talking it out and do a little appeasement like giving them millions upon millions of dollars. And then they’re shocked that it doesn’t work. But I agree with you I don’t think they really like it here. Quote
cyclone24 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 16 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: There are more than two tribes. Racist. Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 7 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: They want to keep talking it out and do a little appeasement like giving them millions upon millions of dollars. And then they’re shocked that it doesn’t work. But I agree with you I don’t think they really like it here. It's rough. Quote
Mike Honcho Posted April 7 Posted April 7 You know what is just so emblematic of this administration...Trump posts that all hell is going to break loose at 8PM, but he didn't say in what time zone. Seriously, WTF? 1 Quote
squistion Posted April 7 Author Posted April 7 From NYT: An Iranian military spokesman warned on Tuesday that if President Trump followed through on his threats of crippling attacks on Iran, the Iranian military would target infrastructure of the United States and its allies in ways that could deprive them of access to the region’s oil and gas for years. The warning came as the spokesman described a new wave of missile and drone strikes across the region, including U.S.-linked sites in the Persian Gulf, petrochemical facilities in Saudi Arabia tied to American companies, and multiple locations in Israel. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Hey, remember how Howard Dean tumbled from leader in the clubhouse for president because he yelled into the crowd wuth the mic on? Didn’t have the temperament, you see. Quote
SaintsInDome2006 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 12 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: You know what is just so emblematic of this administration...Trump posts that all hell is going to break loose at 8PM, but he didn't say in what time zone. Seriously, WTF? Right. Of course it depends on what planet he’s on also. Quote
Fnord Posted April 7 Posted April 7 I'm out of likes today, but all virtual likes to @engorgeous george in this thread. Start a newsletter and I will subscribe. Quote
Gepetto Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Trump said 8:00 pm is Eastern Time tonight. That is the same as about 3 am give or take half an hour in Tehran. Quote
kutulu Posted April 7 Posted April 7 I'm against this. there are a lot of smoking hot Persian chicks Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Will Springsteen still do his sold out show tonight where there are hundreds of tickets still available? Quote
cyclone24 Posted April 7 Posted April 7 28 minutes ago, squistion said: From NYT: An Iranian military spokesman warned on Tuesday that if President Trump followed through on his threats of crippling attacks on Iran, the Iranian military would target infrastructure of the United States and its allies in ways that could deprive them of access to the region’s oil and gas for years. The warning came as the spokesman described a new wave of missile and drone strikes across the region, including U.S.-linked sites in the Persian Gulf, petrochemical facilities in Saudi Arabia tied to American companies, and multiple locations in Israel. Hmm that type of capability might be viewed as an imminent threat Quote
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