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Libs will wonder what is fake about it. They won't bat an eye that CNN is doing their best to undermine Trump and shape the narrative.

Why wouldn't CNN portray the agreement more accurately?

I'm not asking for rose colored glasses, but reporting honestly with an America first mindset is what a proper American news agency would do.

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1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Libs will wonder what is fake about it. They won't bat an eye that CNN is doing their best to undermine Trump and shape the narrative.

Why wouldn't CNN portray the agreement more accurately?

I'm not asking for rose colored glasses, but reporting honestly with an America first mindset is what a proper American news agency would do.

What is fake?

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Just now, Frozenbeernuts said:

Libs will wonder what is fake about it. They won't bat an eye that CNN is doing their best to undermine Trump and shape the narrative.

Why wouldn't CNN portray the agreement more accurately?

I'm not asking for rose colored glasses, but reporting honestly with an America first mindset is what a proper American news agency would do.

CNN reported that Iran will still control the strait and will charge for passage. That was never true. 

@The Psychic Observer

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1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

CNN reported that Iran will still control the strait and will charge for passage. That was never true. 

@The Psychic Observer

They do control the strait.  That's a fact.

In the 10 point plan that Trump accepted as a framework to negotiate they will collect a toll.  Also a fact and exactly what CNN reported.

What's fake?

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7 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Daily Beast?  🤡 

You saying they made this up? :

 

In a statement to the Daily Beast after Trump’s original post, a CNN spokesperson backed its reporting, adding that “the statement in question was obtained by CNN from Iranian officials and reported on multiple Iranian state media outlets. We received the statement from specific official Iranian spokespeople who are known to us.”

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33 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

CNN reported that Iran will still control the strait and will charge for passage. That was never true. 

@The Psychic Observer

That’s what the Iranian government says. This hasn’t changed. CNN reported correctly. 
 

Look we’re going to know the answer to this very shortly. Prior to the war 100s of ships passed through Hirnux daily without paying anything. If that starts happening again right away then CNN’s information will have been wrong (and much more importantly it will be a huge relief for the world- a relief, not a victory, because a victory implies that we gained something we didn’t already have}

If on the other hand Iran gets a toll for every sip that passes through, then Trump,  the guy who started this thread, and those here who agree with them will all look like idiots. (And much more importantly we will continue to be focked.) 

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1 minute ago, Caine Mutiny said:

 

If on the other hand Irak gets a toll for every sip that passes through … the guy who started this thread, and those here who agree with them will all look like idiots. 

Uh, too late for that

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20 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Authorities are looking to see if a crime was committed lol.  CNN is standing by their reporting btw:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-targets-cnn-in-unhinged-truth-social-meltdown-over-war

Remember when @Reality fell for some fake Facebook post about the girls’ school attack?  Lol

Reality fall for a fake story? Surely you jest?

Did he then insult and call people names when they called him on it? Or did he just post a Twitter link and pretend like it was some deep thought of his own?

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44 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Libs will wonder what is fake about it. They won't bat an eye that CNN is doing their best to undermine Trump and shape the narrative.

Why wouldn't CNN portray the agreement more accurately?

I'm not asking for rose colored glasses, but reporting honestly with an America first mindset is what a proper American news agency would do.

So you want state run media?

The news is supposed to be reporting on what is happening from an objective standpoint. The real news- not what passes for news anymore which is opinion dressed up news. Any news organization should report what is happening warts and all. 

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24 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Reality fall for a fake story? Surely you jest?

Did he then insult and call people names when they called him on it? Or did he just post a Twitter link and pretend like it was some deep thought of his own?

He insulted people and called people names when he posted it, then ignored the fact that he fell for fake news.

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14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We don’t want state media. We just want CNN to report state media.  Verbatim, as fast as possible.  

We do want CNN to be able to report what state media is saying in the country we are fighting a war against.  To not allow them to would be turning the US into state media.  Apparently that’s what @cyclone24 wants I guess.

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He insulted people and called people names when he posted it, then ignored the fact that he fell for fake news.

Shocking. It's his only move....well that and saying he is quitting the board to only return like 2 hours later when no one cares that he is leaving. 

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

We do want CNN to report what state media is saying in the country we are fighting a war against.  To not allow them to would be turning the US into state media.  Apparently that’s what @cyclone24 wants I guess.

Right...CNN is just reporting what the other country is saying. It's news, it's a fact from the other perspective. Not right nor wrong. News should call balls and strikes on this stuff. 

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Shocking. It's his only move....well that and saying he is quitting the board to only return like 2 hours later when no one cares that he is leaving. 

Right...CNN is just reporting what the other country is saying. It's news, it's a fact from the other perspective. Not right nor wrong. News should call balls and strikes on this stuff. 

But why do they follow that with guests that agree with what the other country is saying?

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4 minutes ago, blick said:

But why do they follow that with guests that agree with what the other country is saying?

Because that's the opinion stuff creeping in. I dislike that. And every 24/7 news station does that as everything has to be dog wags tail type reporting. 

The actual story is the news. 

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26 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Right...CNN is just reporting

CNN posted a tweet from a Fake Nigerian Bot account. 

That's what they do and that's what they've been doing. Trump isn't making it up, they're fake news and have been for a long time. 

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1 minute ago, blick said:

Al Jazeera has been my go to on war updates.

Al Jazeera Cease Fire Update

 

Agreed they are a good source.

Be careful tho you will freak out the maga nuthuggers. Their update page includes the Iranian 10 points:

Fundamental commitment to non-aggression from the US.

Controlled passage through the Strait of Hormuz in coordination with the Iranian armed forces, which would mean that Iran retains its leverage over the waterway.

An acceptance of Iran’s nuclear enrichment programme.

The lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions and resolutions against Iran.

End of all resolutions against Iran at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

End of all resolutions against Iran by the United Nations Security Council.

The withdrawal of US combat forces from all bases in the region.

Full compensation for damages suffered by Iran during the war – to be secured through payments to Iran by ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz.

The release of all Iranian assets and properties frozen abroad.

The ratification of all these matters in a binding UNSC resolution.

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6 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Agreed they are a good source.

Be careful tho you will freak out the maga nuthuggers. Their update page includes the Iranian 10 points:

Fundamental commitment to non-aggression from the US.

Controlled passage through the Strait of Hormuz in coordination with the Iranian armed forces, which would mean that Iran retains its leverage over the waterway.

An acceptance of Iran’s nuclear enrichment programme.

The lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions and resolutions against Iran.

End of all resolutions against Iran at the International Atomic Energy Agency.

End of all resolutions against Iran by the United Nations Security Council.

The withdrawal of US combat forces from all bases in the region.

Full compensation for damages suffered by Iran during the war – to be secured through payments to Iran by ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz.

The release of all Iranian assets and properties frozen abroad.

The ratification of all these matters in a binding UNSC resolution.

Yes, but it also says "While the full 10-point plan has not been made public...".    

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11 minutes ago, blick said:

Yes, but it also says "While the full 10-point plan has not been made public...".    

Very true. I am not sure how CNN and others framed these same points.

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35 minutes ago, blick said:

Yes, but it also says "While the full 10-point plan has not been made public...".    

Looking around a bit this morning. CNN and others said they received thier list from Iranian officials. As far as I can tell Trump didn’t melt down about the list of their terms, he melted down about the wording that Iran claimed this was a major victory over the US.

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2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you want state run media?

The news is supposed to be reporting on what is happening from an objective standpoint. The real news- not what passes for news anymore which is opinion dressed up news. Any news organization should report what is happening warts and all. 

The problem with that is CNN injects tons of opinion into their reporting. They shape narratives instead of reporting facts. There are countless examples in the difference of how they frame a crime depending on who committed it.

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4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

The problem with that is CNN injects tons of opinion into their reporting. They shape narratives instead of reporting facts. There are countless examples in the difference of how they frame a crime depending on who committed it.

They all inject tons of opinion into reporting. 

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29 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Whoa. What a change in stance there. So weird.

 

Shamelessness. It’s the liberal superpower.  

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You can't rely on CNN, Fox or MSNBC for your news. These are no longer news outlets, they are political chess pieces. 

CNN & MSNBC are so far left it's ridiculous and Fox is just as bad, only the other way. 

If you want real news find it yourself, Rachel Maddow has no clue, she's a far left lesbian extremist, Anderson Pooper is a gay left extremist and Jesse Waters is a closeted gay Man. 

I win, thank you for your time. 

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34 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

They shouldn't. If you are inferring that Fox does it too, I agree. I don't trust them either.

I think the news networks should be asked (forced?) to draw a stronger line of demarcation between news and opinion. I know the current FCC is trying to hammer late night talk shows and The View for this stuff (and I'm not saying that is right or wrong), but I think if someone is watching CNN or FOX News or MSNow they are being told that what they are watching is factual stuff. Perhaps they need to have a thing were it is fully outlined that opinion is what is running from 8-12 at night or something. Basically it is news without influence before that and then you can spin it however you want in that 4 hour window at the end of the day

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16 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You can't rely on CNN, Fox or MSNBC for your news. These are no longer news outlets, they are political chess pieces. 

CNN & MSNBC are so far left it's ridiculous and Fox is just as bad, only the other way. 

If you want real news find it yourself, Rachel Maddow has no clue, she's a far left lesbian extremist, Anderson Pooper is a gay left extremist and Jesse Waters is a closeted gay Man. 

I win, thank you for your time. 

Where do you get your news from?

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