squistion Posted April 22 Posted April 22 5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: Again, I realize. And Splc does good work. And the FBI & local LE does the exact same thing, including using fake entities. But they’re public agencies. Good point. However if I were the SPLC, I wouldn't have waited around for the FBI or local LE to help either, when I have the lives of my staffers to be concerned about. So I don't blame them for being proactive in this situation. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 22 Posted April 22 42 minutes ago, squistion said: Not when their offices are being fire bombed (see above Daily Kos article). 1983. Was anyone arrested? Quote
Engorgeous George Posted April 22 Posted April 22 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 1983. Was anyone arrested? That justification is awfuly stale and so, in my mind, disengenuous. Of course, to be fair I believe the SPLC alleges that threats of violence ae on ongoing matter. Still, they probably do disservice to their argument by including the over 40 year old matter. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted April 22 Posted April 22 1 hour ago, HellToupee said: 3 years ago! Murdered by transgender assassin. SPLC payback? Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted April 22 Posted April 22 26 minutes ago, squistion said: Good point. However if I were the SPLC, I wouldn't have waited around for the FBI or local LE to help either, when I have the lives of my staffers to be concerned about. So I don't blame them for being proactive in this situation. Are they accredited law enforcement officers? Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 2 hours ago, HellToupee said: 3 years ago! Charlie was right all along 1 Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 22 Posted April 22 2 hours ago, kilroy69 said: I have always been suspicious of the SLPC. More importantly, are they suspicious of you? Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted April 22 Author Posted April 22 4 hours ago, HellToupee said: 3 years ago! Charlie was also right about the lack of Father's in the Black community and it being a huge reason why they act like they do. @peenie 1 Quote
seafoam1 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 35 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Charlie was also right about the lack of Father's in the Black community and it being a huge reason why they act like they do. @peenie The black community just keeps doing the same thing wrong in this country that they've been doing for the past 50+ years and they refuse to fix themselves. Quote
dogcows Posted April 22 Posted April 22 5 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: SPLC “planned, organized and paid for the Charlottesville rally” I believe this to be absolute 100% bullsh!t. Please provide any evidence. It’s a given that anything beer nuts posts is fake news. He and Max overdose are hooked up to an IV of crazy conspiracy theory social media accounts. Quote
cyclone24 Posted April 22 Posted April 22 16 minutes ago, dogcows said: It’s a given that anything beer nuts posts is fake news. He and Max overdose are hooked up to an IV of crazy conspiracy theory social media accounts. You mean, other than a grand jury looked at the evidence and said yeah, let’s do it Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted April 22 Posted April 22 The Republicans were happy to look the other way as this went on. Only Trump had the ability to bring this to light. The global reset targets libs because they know liberals are much more prone to being lemming morons. Quote
TimHauck Posted April 23 Posted April 23 21 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It still amazes me that people don’t take the time to read their own links. The HTDS is so strong that they can’t take a minute or two to see if the story actually says what they think it does. HT reads em though. Ya got me, that article didn’t specify if those guys were carrying torches. Here ya go: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/19/charlottesville-white-nationalist-torch-marchers-indicted Now, will you admit you were wrong? I’m gonna go with no. Quote
TimHauck Posted April 23 Posted April 23 22 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Seriously, there were so many tiki torch/ khaki guys at Charlottesville. They just disappeared. Amazing. 22 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It still amazes me that people don’t take the time to read their own links. The HTDS is so strong that they can’t take a minute or two to see if the story actually says what they think it does. HT reads em though. 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Ya got me, that article didn’t specify if those guys were carrying torches. Here ya go: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/19/charlottesville-white-nationalist-torch-marchers-indicted Now, will you admit you were wrong? I’m gonna go with no. Didn’t think so Quote
FrancieFootball Posted April 23 Posted April 23 22 hours ago, TimHauck said: Oh and also, this is a lie, yet another from Lying Troubadour. Speaking of the SPLC… https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/four-members-racist-antisemitic-rise-above-movement-charged-rioting-unite-right-tiki-torch/ MAGA should be classified as a hate group and terrorist organization. 1 Quote
Mark Davis Posted April 23 Posted April 23 8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 1983. Was anyone arrested? As someone born in Montgomery, let me tell you if they haven't had another arson/shooting/violent assault since 1983 they are running way below average for the city. You need an armed guard to go down into parts of the city these days. Quote
jerryskids Posted April 23 Posted April 23 5 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: More importantly, are they suspicious of you? Depends. Is he Catholic? Opposes the murder of unborn babies? Opposes transing of kids? 1 Quote
Grace Under Pressure Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 hour ago, FrancieFootball said: MAGA should be classified as a hate group and terrorist organization. Correct Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 23 Posted April 23 17 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Depends. Is he Catholic? Opposes the murder of unborn babies? Opposes transing of kids? None of those attributes, by themselves,qualify as bigotry or hate by the SPLC. Which you would know if you looked beyond the absurd lies being told by certain people here. Earlier I posted a list of all the groups that SPLC has designated as hate groups. I challenged anyone here to tell me why any of those groups doesn’t deserve the designation- not 50 years ago either, but now. So far nobody here has responded. I’ll offer you the same challenge. If none of you can cite a single occurrence in which the SPLC falsely called a group a hate group, then all of you should probably shut the fock up about them. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted April 23 Posted April 23 13 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: None of those attributes, by themselves,qualify as bigotry or hate by the SPLC. Which you would know if you looked beyond the absurd lies being told by certain people here. Earlier I posted a list of all the groups that SPLC has designated as hate groups. I challenged anyone here to tell me why any of those groups doesn’t deserve the designation- not 50 years ago either, but now. So far nobody here has responded. I’ll offer you the same challenge. If none of you can cite a single occurrence in which the SPLC falsely called a group a hate group, then all of you should probably shut the fock up about them. The SPLC has issued apologies and paid settlements for wrongly accusing people and groups. 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted April 23 Posted April 23 6 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Charlie was also right about the lack of Father's in the Black community and it being a huge reason why they act like they do. @peenie Was he also right that war with Iran would be a disaster? Quote
dogcows Posted April 23 Posted April 23 58 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: None of those attributes, by themselves,qualify as bigotry or hate by the SPLC. Which you would know if you looked beyond the absurd lies being told by certain people here. Earlier I posted a list of all the groups that SPLC has designated as hate groups. I challenged anyone here to tell me why any of those groups doesn’t deserve the designation- not 50 years ago either, but now. So far nobody here has responded. I’ll offer you the same challenge. If none of you can cite a single occurrence in which the SPLC falsely called a group a hate group, then all of you should probably shut the fock up about them. Racists hate the SPLC. This “investigation” is yet another dog whistle to remind them that Trump is the white power prez. Quote
Mark Davis Posted April 23 Posted April 23 10 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: That justification is awfuly stale and so, in my mind, disengenuous. Of course, to be fair I believe the SPLC alleges that threats of violence ae on ongoing matter. Still, they probably do disservice to their argument by including the over 40 year old matter. They are in Montgomery, by definition threats of violence are an ongoing matter there. Anyone who can at all afford to either moved north to Prattville or east of the city toward/in Auburn. If you ever happen to be driving along I-65, make sure you get gas on either side of the city. Quote
TimHauck Posted April 23 Posted April 23 9 minutes ago, dogcows said: Racists hate the SPLC. This “investigation” is yet another dog whistle to remind them that Trump is the white power prez. I wonder if Stephen Miller (the most racist person in the federal government IMO) is behind this. He was a previous target of the SPLC. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/alleged-stephen-miller-emails-reference-white-nationalist-and-anti-immigrant-perspectives 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The SPLC has issued apologies and paid settlements for wrongly accusing people and groups. I see one settlement, not multiple. To a Muslim. Quote
kilroy69 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 On 4/21/2026 at 7:41 PM, Caine Mutiny said: The charge is so laughable. The SPLC has paid informants in the Klan and other hate groups. They have saved many lives that way. They’ve been doing it for over 50 years. So what your saying is that the SLPC has been funding hate group members. Quote
jerryskids Posted April 23 Posted April 23 2 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: None of those attributes, by themselves,qualify as bigotry or hate by the SPLC. Which you would know if you looked beyond the absurd lies being told by certain people here. Earlier I posted a list of all the groups that SPLC has designated as hate groups. I challenged anyone here to tell me why any of those groups doesn’t deserve the designation- not 50 years ago either, but now. So far nobody here has responded. I’ll offer you the same challenge. If none of you can cite a single occurrence in which the SPLC falsely called a group a hate group, then all of you should probably shut the fock up about them. I'm back east for a wedding, here you go: https://www.thecatholictelegraph.com/pro-life-family-organizations-hate-groups/72488#:~:text=The SPLC has been forced,their lies%2C” Brown continued. 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted April 23 Posted April 23 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I'm back east for a wedding, here you go: https://www.thecatholictelegraph.com/pro-life-family-organizations-hate-groups/72488#:~:text=The SPLC has been forced,their lies%2C” Brown continued. Yeah this report backs up my post that they’ve paid 1 settlement - to a Muslim. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 23 Posted April 23 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I'm back east for a wedding, here you go: https://www.thecatholictelegraph.com/pro-life-family-organizations-hate-groups/72488#:~:text=The SPLC has been forced,their lies%2C” Brown continued. The source you quoted offered one example: the famous one of Majiid Nawaz. And yes they did apologize to him and paid him a settlement for naming him as part of a hate group. But that’s not what I asked. I specifically did not ask about individuals. I asked if SPLC had ever falsely labeled a GROUP. Though your source, which is extremely biased, claim they have they don’t provide any examples. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: The SPLC has issued apologies and paid settlements for wrongly accusing people and groups Bolded is a lie. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 23 Posted April 23 25 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: So what your saying is that the SLPC has been funding hate group members. Don’t you feel like an idiot even posting this? Quote
kilroy69 Posted April 23 Posted April 23 1 minute ago, Caine Mutiny said: Don’t you feel like an idiot even posting this? Probably about as much of an idiot as you feel for defending them. Quote
TimHauck Posted April 23 Posted April 23 12 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I'm back east for a wedding, here you go: https://www.thecatholictelegraph.com/pro-life-family-organizations-hate-groups/72488#:~:text=The SPLC has been forced,their lies%2C” Brown continued. I will preface this by saying I don’t know much about the SPLC. Maybe they’re a little liberal with their definition of “hate” but I’m very skeptical that they were “funding the KKK.” But reading your link, it names a few groups the article calls “well respected.” Ruth institute - definitely looks anti-LGBT. and maybe anti sex that’s not for procreating - that’d be pretty hateful! https://ruthinstitute.org/about/?noamp=available Alliance Defending Freedom - anti gay marriage https://adflegal.org/about/ Family Research Council - anti gay marriage https://www.frc.org/family-formation#gsc.tab=0 Again, maybe one could argue being against gay marriage isn’t necessarily “hate,” but I noticed you didn’t include being against gay marriage in your red herring about abortion and transing kids. Quote
jerryskids Posted April 23 Posted April 23 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I will preface this by saying I don’t know much about the SPLC. Maybe they’re a little liberal with their definition of “hate” but I’m very skeptical that they were “funding the KKK.” But reading your link, it names a few groups the article calls “well respected.” Ruth institute - definitely looks anti-LGBT. and maybe anti sex that’s not for procreating - that’d be pretty hateful! https://ruthinstitute.org/about/?noamp=available Alliance Defending Freedom - anti gay marriage https://adflegal.org/about/ Family Research Council - anti gay marriage https://www.frc.org/family-formation#gsc.tab=0 Again, maybe one could argue being against gay marriage isn’t necessarily “hate,” but I noticed you didn’t include being against gay marriage in your red herring about abortion and transing kids. One could definitely argue that, because i am. And I didn't list it because I wasn't making an exhaustive list, Moderate Tim. It's 1:30 AM, go sleep with your wife. Goodnight 1 Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted April 23 Posted April 23 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Again, maybe one could argue being against gay marriage isn’t necessarily “hate,” It isn’t. But if, in being against gay marriage, a group relies on bigoted anti-gay propaganda, then it’s hate. It’s a similar distinction with criticism of Israel. Some criticism of Israel truly is anti-Semitic- most is not. It all depends on the arguments offered and the language used. But @jerryskidshas never understood the distinctions there either IMO. 1 Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted April 23 Posted April 23 Rusty, Gutter, Tim Squared, and dog doo racing each other to the bottom in this thread. 1 Quote
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