makindollaz Posted May 13 Posted May 13 Personal opinion…the NFL cap should drop about $20M and QB doesn’t count against your cap number. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 14 Author Posted May 14 Dak, Love, Lawrence, Purdy making that kind of money is ridiculous. All 3 are Jags Quote
jrokh Posted May 14 Posted May 14 3 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Dak, Love, Lawrence, Purdy making that kind of money is ridiculous. All 3 are Jags To be fair only Lawrence is really a Jag… Quote
Ray_T Posted May 14 Posted May 14 I'm maybe a bad person to comment on this because I think almost all QB are massively overpaid. the only one on the list shown above that is even remotely worth the money is likely josh Allen. you can make an argument for Herbert and Lamar, but I think they have not lived up to the large pricetag either. There is still hope for Herbert, but Lamar is getting pretty close to the point in his career where his play will start to decline. dude is 29 with some hard miles on the odometer. wouldnt be surprised if this guy starts to get injured more regularly now as his athleticism starts to fade a bit. His contract ends at the end of the 2027 season. it will be interesting to see if the Ravens re sign him. I'd probably be inclined to franchise him for a year and then let him go. rather than pay for a 3-5 year deal. running QB tend not to have long careers and I doubt that Lamar will be much of an exception. suspect hes done by the age of 31 or 32. Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted May 14 Posted May 14 22 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: Virtually all of them are overpaid. Quote
gcmmidwest Posted May 15 Posted May 15 On 5/14/2026 at 4:16 AM, Maximum Overkill said: Dak, Love, Lawrence, Purdy making that kind of money is ridiculous. All 3 are Jags Who do you think is the best out of this pack? Lawrence,dak,love,purdy is my order Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 1 minute ago, gcmmidwest said: Who do you think is the best out of this pack? Lawrence,dak,love,purdy is my order I like the order you have them in as well. I don't know why but I still think Lawrence hasn't peeked. My eyes tell me he's the best of the worst. Quote
Ray_T Posted May 15 Posted May 15 2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: I like the order you have them in as well. I don't know why but I still think Lawrence hasn't peeked. My eyes tell me he's the best of the worst. Dak is pretty reliable against crappy defenses. Lawrence is all over the map. he will have a good game against a good Defense and then have a stinker against a weak defense. for fantasy(redraft) Dak is the better pick in the sense that you know exactly when hes gonna play well and when hes not. when the matchup is good, he almost always produces. when the matchup is bad its very dicey. I do think long term Lawrence is likely the best of those group in the long run/keeper league scenario as I think Dak only has a couple of years left in the tank. Lawrence still likely has some unrealized upside and last year the game showed signs of slowing down for him. so he might be ready to take that next step everyone has been expecting him to take a couple years ago. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 2 hours ago, Ray_T said: for fantasy(redraft) Dak is the better pick Agree 100%. Dak is actually very good for fantasy. I love drafting him as my QB2 in redraft leagues. He won't win you a league but his fantasy floor is great. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, weepaws said: Dak is never around long enough to draft him as a qb2 He's not a QB1 in redraft, IMO. He has no rushing upside. I'd prefer Nix over him for that reason alone. He's QB11 right now in the FP rankings. Even that seems a little high to me and I'm a Dak truther. Quote
Ray_T Posted May 15 Posted May 15 31 minutes ago, weepaws said: Dak is never around long enough to draft him as a qb2 yeah but hes a low end QB1. you can draft a guy like him and pair him up with a late round guy like Kyler Murray who has significant upside in that offense if he can stay healthy. likely between the two of them you can get good production by playing the matchup. Quote
weepaws Posted May 15 Posted May 15 Dak is the true low qb1. I've never seen him around in the double digit rounds, so I've never had him on my teams. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 21 minutes ago, Ray_T said: yeah but hes a low end QB1. you can draft a guy like him and pair him up with a late round guy like Kyler Murray who has significant upside in that offense if he can stay healthy. likely between the two of them you can get good production by playing the matchup. I'd say Daks a low end QB1 in 12 team leagues but barely. I prefer QBs with some sort of rushing upside but that's just the leagues that I play in. Quote
Ray_T Posted May 15 Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I'd say Daks a low end QB1 in 12 team leagues but barely. I prefer QBs with some sort of rushing upside but that's just the leagues that I play in. I dont disagree. I have him ranked on the cusp. not much of a difference between a high end QB2 or a low end QB1. at that point in the draft its mostly personal preference Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 15 Author Posted May 15 Just now, Ray_T said: have him ranked on the cusp. not much of a difference between a high end QB2 or a low end QB1. Agree, not much difference but unless you draft perfectly, Dak won't win you anything. Quote
Ray_T Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said: Agree, not much difference but unless you draft perfectly, Dak won't win you anything. not on his own. I've seen people draft him and match him up with another QB on the cusp and the guy played matchups. worked out well for him. if going with that strategy I like dak because if the defense is below average he will light them up. if the defense is above average (or better) its usually safe to sit Dak. that predictibility often makes dak a desireable choice if playing that strategy as its fairly easy to predict if hes gonna have a good or a bad game. Quote
weepaws Posted May 15 Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said: I'd say Daks a low end QB1 in 12 team leagues but barely. I prefer QBs with some sort of rushing upside but that's just the leagues that I play in. Agreed Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted May 18 Posted May 18 On 5/13/2026 at 7:13 PM, makindollaz said: Personal opinion…the NFL cap should drop about $20M and QB doesn’t count against your cap number. I think teams would be wise to not overspend at QB. I personally think there's more than 32 starter-worthy QB's in the league. Why pay someone like Trevor Lawrence $50M a year when you can pay Mac Jones $20M and spend $30M on upgrading the team? On top of that, that's one less contract you have to constantly restructure and kick down the road. Quote
Ray_T Posted May 19 Posted May 19 On 5/18/2026 at 5:39 AM, TBayXXXVII said: I think teams would be wise to not overspend at QB. I personally think there's more than 32 starter-worthy QB's in the league. Why pay someone like Trevor Lawrence $50M a year when you can pay Mac Jones $20M and spend $30M on upgrading the team? On top of that, that's one less contract you have to constantly restructure and kick down the road. for sure. I think unless you have a top 5 to top 8 QB you shouldnt be forking out that kind of money. those guys all score 22+ fantasy points per game. once you get to the point where your QB is outside of that top tier (or 2) you should be bargain shopping. once your fantasy points per game drops below 20 you are looking at: Baker darnold Love Dart Lamar (surprising) yet there are guys like Brissett (20.2 fantasy points per game) who outperformed them all and I dont think he makes big money at all granted when bargain shopping like that you need a system designed for the QB so that guy can be successful. but I think it can be done if the coach is good enough. but I guess my question is why give top dollar to a player who isnt putting up top 5 numbers? looking at Lamar, his stats this year actually were not very good, though historically he has been top 5. but hes now 29 and one year from free agency. do you give a guy like this big money? I'd be inclined to wait and see what he can do on the field this year before deciding.. I certainly wouldnt be going with a 5 year deal at big money given his age and what he did last year. just my 2 cents worth. I'm not necessarily saying not to pay Lamar. but at his age, you want to be sure that that last years low production isnt a sign of things to come. if he cant return to top 5 numbers this year I'd strongly consider letting him walk in free agency if he wont sign a short term deal (3 years or less) Quote
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