Three dead at San Diego school and mosque; act of anti-Muslim hatred

[Hardcore troubadour]

Just now, squistion said:

Wait, what...Cain Clark was a gay Mexican?

Looks like it 

[squistion]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Looks like it 

No he doesn't look like a Mexican.  Cain Clark looks as white as I am.

And how many Latinos have the surname of Clark?

[Hardcore troubadour]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

No he doesn't look like a Mexican.  Cain Clark looks as white as I am.

And how many Latinos have the surname of Clark?

Ones that marry someone named Clark. 

[squistion]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Ones that marry someone named Clark. 

Question: Does Cain Clark look like an Hispanic or a Latino from the photos we have seen?

Answer: No.

Question: Does the name Cain Clark sound like a Mexican or Hispanic name?

Answer: No.

So, yes he might be a Latino, but really doubtful from the information we have so far.

[dogcows]

Yet another thread where d!ckless wonders don’t give a crap about the people who died. All they want to do is use the tragedy to attack LGBTQ and Latino people. We already know how to prevent these mass shootings. Make firearms harder to get. But people just refuse to do it.

Also, a reminder of what can happen when you have guns and don’t properly secure them:

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San Diego police got their first call around 9:42 a.m. from the mother of one of the suspects, who said her son had gone missing, along with her firearms and car, Wahl told reporters.

She also said her son was suicidal and was most likely in the company of a friend, Wahl said. Both young men were wearing camouflaged clothing, she told police.

So… her son was suicidal and she let him have access to her guns and car keys? 

[Hardcore troubadour]

12 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Yet another thread where d!ckless wonders don’t give a crap about the people who died. All they want to do is use the tragedy to attack LGBTQ and Latino people. We already know how to prevent these mass shootings. Make firearms harder to get. But people just refuse to do it.

Also, a reminder of what can happen when you have guns and don’t properly secure them:

So… her son was suicidal and she let him have access to her guns and car keys? 

I’ve been saying this for years, right on this forum. Parents need to be held accountable for their kids getting access to their weapons. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

So, turns out that we don't have a right- Wing violence problem in the United States, we have a left-wing problem. Specifically with the rainbow crowd and their mental illness.

It's always been left-wing violence. Always.

[Maximum Overkill]

7 hours ago, Drizzay said:

 

The one on the left looks like it's transitioning. They could have been gay lovers IMO. 

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims. Stop the violence! 

[Maximum Overkill]

6 hours ago, dogcows said:

Also, a reminder

Ohhhh wow, interesting 

 

 

[lickin_starfish]

Lock up your guns when you have gay kids.

[Maximum Overkill]

5 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Lock up your guns when you have gay kids.

How did the parents not see the warning signs? 

[Tree of Knowledge]

1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Ohhhh wow, interesting 

 

 

Sad.  Probably didn’t want to wait to be thrown off a building.  Too much hate in this world.  The left needs to turn the temperature way down.  

[Fnord]

On days like this I have to continually remind myself that most MAGA are decent folks that just want to live their lives like the rest of us, and the turpitude of the MAGAmooks posting here is not representative of the whole.

And some of you freaks consider yourselves Christians. LOL.

[squistion]

So Cain Clark is being called trans here because he had long hair in a couple pictures? Really, that is what people are going on? 

No evidence so far that he was gay, trans or romantically involved with the other shooter.

From my friend Grok:

**No confirmed evidence supports those claims.**

Official reporting and law enforcement statements identify Cain Clark as a 17-year-old male high school wrestler. There is no mention in credible sources of him being transgender, any romantic involvement with Caleb Velasquez, or activity in the trans community.

Online speculation appears driven by photos of Clark's appearance, but that's not verification. Authorities haven't released anything backing those details. I'll stick to what's factually reported.

[Tree of Knowledge]

Thoughts and prayers to the impacted Muslim, Hispanic, LGBTQ+ and Jewish communities.  

[dogcows]

31 minutes ago, Fnord said:

On days like this I have to continually remind myself that most MAGA are decent folks that just want to live their lives like the rest of us, and the turpitude of the MAGAmooks posting here is not representative of the whole.

And some of you freaks consider yourselves Christians. LOL.

Calling it out doesn’t seem to slow them down. They use every tragedy as a chance to attack minority groups. 

Bigotry seems to be the only thing giving meaning to their lives. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

Making this a fun control issue is not completely without merit. To put it simply, some people shouldn’t have them. But the fact is, first of all, the left can’t be trusted with any form of gun restrictions. And second, if the police and courts were doing their job and predicate violent felons and unvetted illegals weren’t let walk around or streets maybe some people wouldn’t feel the need/ necessity to be armed. 

[Fnord]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Making this a fun control issue is not completely without merit. 

Who supports fun control?

Fascists.

[Engorgeous George]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Who supports fun control?

Fascists.

Puritans.

[Fnord]

3 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Puritans.

I don't see many of those in the GC. I suppose there are a few incels that prefer to see themselves as puritanical, but to me they're just ass holes.

[seafoam1]

Freaking liberals are so violent. 

[Fnord]

Speaking of ass hole incels

[seafoam1]

Just now, Fnord said:

Speaking of ass hole incels

I love how the arrow points right at your alias fdork. Finally you are correct.

[Maximum Overkill]

4 hours ago, squistion said:

he

 

4 hours ago, squistion said:

he

 

4 hours ago, squistion said:

male

They/Them, 

[Maximum Overkill]

5 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Sad.  Probably didn’t want to wait to be thrown off a building.  Too much hate in this world.  The left needs to turn the temperature way down.  

I know, it's scary for trans. Can you imagine how scared the ones in NYC must be? No wonder why they're pro Islam. They fear for their lives daily. 

[Caine Mutiny]

Good morning. I’m going to ignore most of the crap written in this thread over the last 24 hours. I don’t believe these two teenagers were trans or liberal- neither makes any sense at all. 
 

What does make sense is that they hated Muslims. And because almost all of the irrational hatred against Muslims comes from the right, it also makes sense that they are conservative, perhaps MAGA (since the most virulent anti Muslim rhetoric in this country in recent years has come from MAGA types like Trump, Laura Loomer, Tommy Tuberville, etc.) That’s my assumption though we’ll find out. 
 

if they are, as I suspect, MAGA types does that mean we should condemn all MAGA? Of course not. But decent people SHOULD condemn anti-Muslim rhetoric, and look askance at those who stay silent while it’s happening. 

[Maximum Overkill]

36 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

What does make sense is that they hated Muslims

"They" have a lot of hate in their hearts 

It's really sad indeed 

[Tree of Knowledge]

1 minute ago, Maximum Overkill said:

"They" have a lot of hate in their hearts 

It's really sad indeed 

They/them hated Muslims because Muslims hated they/them?

[Maximum Overkill]

6 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

They/them hated Muslims because Muslims hated they/them?

That's what I'm thinking as well. 

The Trans gun violence is out of control. 

[cyclone24]

5 hours ago, dogcows said:

Calling it out doesn’t seem to slow them down. They use every tragedy as a chance to attack minority groups. 

Bigotry seems to be the only thing giving meaning to their lives. 

You people are so bizarre. We have a track record of this kind of stuff, but if you say anything, it’s bigotry.
We’ve to call them “teen takeovers” but not what they really are. A bunch of black animals who ruin things for everyone else in stores, beaches, pools, convenience stores, but we can’t say that, even though it’s obvious because racism.

Basically you liberals just categorize Anything you don’t want to hear as either bigotry or racism. Its focking comical. 
 

But again you do what liberals always do. You mentally play the we care more Olympics and your moral character and how good a person you are you inherently tied to how much they agree with you on things. Even when its painfully obvious what the issues are. 
LGBT people have mental health issues. But oh no no we can’t say that because that would lead to fault that you can’t pin on scary guns. You can’t say they aren’t teen takeovers they’re a bunch of fatherless black kids with low impulse control. But oh no no can’t say the obvious. We have to call it “teens”
 

yall are certifiable 

[Tree of Knowledge]

8 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's what I'm thinking as well. 

The Trans gun violence is out of control. 

As much as radical Islamic terrorism.  

[Maximum Overkill]

9 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

As much as radical Islamic terrorism.  

Very similar, sadly enough. 

[seafoam1]

17 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

That's what I'm thinking as well. 

The Trans gun violence is out of control. 

Liberals refuse to allow themselves to profile violent groups because, even though more innocent people will die, they can't allow themselves to stop fighting for liberal run violent special interest groups. 

It's all they have left to run on. 

[Fnord]

8 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

You people are so bizarre. We have a track record of this kind of stuff, but if you say anything, it’s bigotry.
We’ve to call them “teen takeovers” but not what they really are. A bunch of black animals who ruin things for everyone else in stores, beaches, pools, convenience stores, but we can’t say that, even though it’s obvious because racism.

Basically you liberals just categorize Anything you don’t want to hear as either bigotry or racism. Its focking comical. 
 

But again you do what liberals always do. You mentally play the we care more Olympics and your moral character and how good a person you are you inherently tied to how much they agree with you on things. Even when its painfully obvious what the issues are. 
LGBT people have mental health issues. But oh no no we can’t say that because that would lead to fault that you can’t pin on scary guns. You can’t say they aren’t team takeovers they’re a bunch of fatherless black kids with low impulse control. But oh no no can’t say the obvious. We have to call it.
 

yall are certifiable 

I had to google teen takeovers, never heard of them. Unsurprisingly, many of the links were from Fox News. I didn't click on them but did do some more research. What I found was, again unsurprisingly, not quite what you make it out to be.

Basically, these things are put together via viral SM posts. Most of them at least begin as a way for teens to hang out and socialize. This is a good thing! Then, as they go on, much like your average protest, things get squirrelly. Some idiots get in a fight, a few more idiots vandalize property, and then sometimes some uberidiots start shooting. Cops show up to break it up, and the kids doing nothing wrong get thrown in with the troublemakers. This is a bad thing.

I'm in favor of measures that get teens out of the house, off of their devices, and offer a chance to socialize with each other. The old grumps here (of which I am definitely one) I think take for granted that younger folks today don't have nearly the outlets we had for in person socializing, despite their access to information being about a million times more than what we had. Any time you have a big gathering of people, there are going to be folks intent on being disorderly jerks. Cut the kids some slack, prosecute the ones actually committing crimes, and lets figure out positive ways for our young to gather together and enjoy each other's company like we used to.

[Alias Detective]

Very little info on the Vazquez fella. I suspect this is where all the dirt is. Or, the last name is protected enough to just blast the white person involved. 
 

 

[Maximum Overkill]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I had to google teen takeovers, never heard of them. Unsurprisingly, many of the links were from Fox News. I didn't click on them but did do some more research. What I found was, again unsurprisingly, not quite what you make it out to be.

Basically, these things are put together via viral SM posts. Most of them at least begin as a way for teens to hang out and socialize. This is a good thing! Then, as they go on, much like your average protest, things get squirrelly. Some idiots get in a fight, a few more idiots vandalize property, and then sometimes some uberidiots start shooting. Cops show up to break it up, and the kids doing nothing wrong get thrown in with the troublemakers. This is a bad thing.

I'm in favor of measures that get teens out of the house, off of their devices, and offer a chance to socialize with each other. The old grumps here (of which I am definitely one) I think take for granted that younger folks today don't have nearly the outlets we had for in person socializing, despite their access to information being about a million times more than what we had. Any time you have a big gathering of people, there are going to be folks intent on being disorderly jerks. Cut the kids some slack, prosecute the ones actually committing crimes, and lets figure out positive ways for our young to gather together and enjoy each other's company like we used to.

Teen takeover in Detroit results in brawls, shooting. Sheffield responds

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Need more??? There's plenty 

[Meglamaniac]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I had to google teen takeovers, never heard of them. Unsurprisingly, many of the links were from Fox News. I didn't click on them but did do some more research. What I found was, again unsurprisingly, not quite what you make it out to be.

Basically, these things are put together via viral SM posts. Most of them at least begin as a way for teens to hang out and socialize. This is a good thing! Then, as they go on, much like your average protest, things get squirrelly. Some idiots get in a fight, a few more idiots vandalize property, and then sometimes some uberidiots start shooting. Cops show up to break it up, and the kids doing nothing wrong get thrown in with the troublemakers. This is a bad thing.

I'm in favor of measures that get teens out of the house, off of their devices, and offer a chance to socialize with each other. The old grumps here (of which I am definitely one) I think take for granted that younger folks today don't have nearly the outlets we had for in person socializing, despite their access to information being about a million times more than what we had. Any time you have a big gathering of people, there are going to be folks intent on being disorderly jerks. Cut the kids some slack, prosecute the ones actually committing crimes, and lets figure out positive ways for our young to gather together and enjoy each other's company like we used to.

It's become a huge issue here in Florida, lots of violence, lots of arrests and even loss of life.  These things as they currently exists are not good things

[Hardcore troubadour]

They took over a charitable carnival in NJ last month. It had to be shut down. And there was one at a chipotle in DC last night. But FNord hasn’t heard about it yet so it’s not happening 

[Tree of Knowledge]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They took over a charitable carnival in NJ last month. It had to be shut down. And there was one at a chipotle in DC last night. But FNord hasn’t heard about it yet so it’s not happening 

The Daytona Beach video he never saw?

[Maximum Overkill]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The Daytona Beach video he never saw?

@Fnord is full of shitt. He knows exactly what's happening but he's too much of a pvssy to condemn anything that his people do.