Hardcore troubadour Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: @Fnord is full of shitt. He knows exactly what's happening but he's too much of a pvssy to condemn anything that his people do. They are terrified of the truth about who they stand with. Quote
squistion Posted May 19 Posted May 19 44 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: You people are so bizarre. We have a track record of this kind of stuff, but if you say anything, it’s bigotry. We’ve to call them “teen takeovers” but not what they really are. A bunch of black animals who ruin things for everyone else in stores, beaches, pools, convenience stores, but we can’t say that, even though it’s obvious because racism. Basically you liberals just categorize Anything you don’t want to hear as either bigotry or racism. Its focking comical. But again you do what liberals always do. You mentally play the we care more Olympics and your moral character and how good a person you are you inherently tied to how much they agree with you on things. Even when its painfully obvious what the issues are. LGBT people have mental health issues. But oh no no we can’t say that because that would lead to fault that you can’t pin on scary guns. You can’t say they aren’t teen takeovers they’re a bunch of fatherless black kids with low impulse control. But oh no no can’t say the obvious. We have to call it “teens” yall are certifiable Quote LGBT people have mental health issues So do those that aren't LGBT. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted May 19 Author Posted May 19 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/multiple-house-republicans-post-openly-anti-muslim-statements-rcna263377 These politicians, all of them huge supporters of MAGA, are guilty of the worst rhetoric against Muslims: Congressman Andy Fine of Florida: We need more Islamophobia, not less. Fear of Islam is rational. Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee: No country is freer or safer because Muslims moved there. Muslim immigration is a national security threat. Muslims don’t belong in American society. Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama: (Showing a picture of 9/11 alongside Mayor Mamdami): The enemy is inside the gates. And finally there is President Trump himself: the list of his bigoted remarks against Islam is far too long to list here, but among other items he has called for the complete halt of Muslim immigration, registration for all Muslims living here, and a shutdown of all mosques. He also falsely claimed that thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated 9/11. if you voted for or continue to support any of the above politicians, including President Trump, you are guilty of tolerating this sort of ugly bigotry against innocent people, and while you are not responsible for yesterday’s tragedy, you’re certainly not fighting against such occurrences. 1 5 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 19 Posted May 19 I don’t know why there’s an Islamic center anywhere in this country. They want to destroy us and aren’t shy about saying so. 1 Quote
Engorgeous George Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Curious about these teen "takeovers". We hear they often are promoted on SM. Do they say on social media they are going to gather for good times, or do they say thay are going to "takeover" a space. If so I suggest finding and prosecuting any who tansmit that messsage as it is fomenting or encouraging a riot. To takeover a place is to occupy and exclude others, by force. That is encouraging a riot. As for the Muslims and their Islamist centers I recognize their are some extreme views within that general population. I see similar extreme views in the Christian population. I might percieve that the percentage of extreme views is higher in one demographic than the other, but the extremes exist in both and when you add the irrationality and fanaticism of religion to extreme views you have a volitile cocktail. (Also, my perception on the rate of extremism in each religion may be biased on my experiences and exposure to each and to media.) I might prefer there were no religions or if there have to be that they were all Buddhists or BaHa'i were I don't see the violent extremes, but I do believe folks have a right to their beliefs and to their non violent practice or expression of those beliefs. 1 Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Sadly, we have to chalk this up as another transgender mass killing. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 19 Posted May 19 6 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Sadly, we have to chalk this up as another transgender mass killing. Wow, confirmed! More Tranny violence, I'm sick of it. 2 Quote
cyclone24 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 20 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/multiple-house-republicans-post-openly-anti-muslim-statements-rcna263377 These politicians, all of them huge supporters of MAGA, are guilty of the worst rhetoric against Muslims: Congressman Andy Fine of Florida: We need more Islamophobia, not less. Fear of Islam is rational. Congressman Andy Ogles of Tennessee: No country is freer or safer because Muslims moved there. Muslim immigration is a national security threat. Muslims don’t belong in American society. Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama: (Showing a picture of 9/11 alongside Mayor Mamdami): The enemy is inside the gates. And finally there is President Trump himself: the list of his bigoted remarks against Islam is far too long to list here, but among other items he has called for the complete halt of Muslim immigration, registration for all Muslims living here, and a shutdown of all mosques. He also falsely claimed that thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated 9/11. if you voted for or continue to support any of the above politicians, including President Trump, you are guilty of tolerating this sort of ugly bigotry against innocent people, and while you are not responsible for yesterday’s tragedy, you’re certainly not fighting against such occurrences. Lol so remember kids it’s never the fault of radical Muslims that chant death to America. It’s never all the attacks in the name of a law that occur around the world. That’s not the real problem. The real problem is that it got called out. And if you call it out then you’re a bigot. Facts be damned. I noted it in another thread by someone else and you can see it here again for yourself . If it’s something they don’t like even if it’s factual, it’s bigotry or racism. Every single time. 1 Quote
Fnord Posted May 19 Posted May 19 38 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: But FNord hasn’t heard about it yet so it’s not happening I didn't say they weren't happening, kindly fock off. 31 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: The Daytona Beach video he never saw? At this point you should definitely NOT be surprised that we're watching different videos. Hell, this is likely the only website we both visit. We don't have a lot in common. 29 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: @Fnord is full of shitt. He knows exactly what's happening but he's too much of a pvssy to condemn anything that his people do. My people? I haven't been a teenager in a very long time. I also said right in my post that it was bad. But keep on being the lying, reckless, hateful, bigoted Max O we've all become accustomed to. Quote
Meglamaniac Posted May 19 Posted May 19 9 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Sadly, we have to chalk this up as another transgender mass killing. This simply can't be true, it can't Tim told us in no uncertain terms these were conservatives and most likely MAGAS "And because almost all of the irrational hatred against Muslims comes from the right, it also makes sense that they are conservative, perhaps MAGA (since the most virulent anti Muslim rhetoric in this country in recent years has come from MAGA types like Trump, Laura Loomer, Tommy Tuberville, etc.)" Quote
cyclone24 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 52 minutes ago, Fnord said: I had to google teen takeovers, never heard of them. Unsurprisingly, many of the links were from Fox News. I didn't click on them but did do some more research. What I found was, again unsurprisingly, not quite what you make it out to be. Basically, these things are put together via viral SM posts. Most of them at least begin as a way for teens to hang out and socialize. This is a good thing! Then, as they go on, much like your average protest, things get squirrelly. Some idiots get in a fight, a few more idiots vandalize property, and then sometimes some uberidiots start shooting. Cops show up to break it up, and the kids doing nothing wrong get thrown in with the troublemakers. This is a bad thing. I'm in favor of measures that get teens out of the house, off of their devices, and offer a chance to socialize with each other. The old grumps here (of which I am definitely one) I think take for granted that younger folks today don't have nearly the outlets we had for in person socializing, despite their access to information being about a million times more than what we had. Any time you have a big gathering of people, there are going to be folks intent on being disorderly jerks. Cut the kids some slack, prosecute the ones actually committing crimes, and lets figure out positive ways for our young to gather together and enjoy each other's company like we used to. You did your research. OK show me a countless almost daily occur occurrences of white kids getting together and causing problems at restaurants, etc. Why do we have things behind locked containers that Walgreens? Why do malls you have now have to be chaperoned by a parent? The vast majority of these beatings and assaults, etc. are over overwhelmingly what color? You’re trying to make it an age thing when it’s just not. Its a culture Quote
squistion Posted May 19 Posted May 19 Still no confirmation from credible sources that Cain Clark was transgender. https://x.com/VanillaGorilaX/status/2056570742062670015 @grok There is a lot of speculation online about Cain Clark being a trans-girl... can you confirm this? Additionally, there is also a mention that the two shooters had a romantic involvement and were highly active in the trans community. Can you verify this? Grok @grok https://x.com/grok/status/2056570841869984224 **No, I cannot confirm that.** Mainstream reporting and official statements from San Diego PD, NYT, CNN, Reuters, etc. describe Cain Clark as a 17-year-old male student and wrestler at James Madison High School. There is zero verified information that he is transgender, that the shooters were romantically involved, or that they were active in any trans community. The speculation stems from a photo of Clark with long hair and a feminine appearance (the one you attached), but appearance alone isn't evidence of gender identity. No credible sources support the claims. 2 Quote
Fnord Posted May 19 Posted May 19 8 minutes ago, cyclone24 said: You did your research. OK show me a countless almost daily occur occurrences of white kids getting together and causing problems at restaurants, etc. Why do we have things behind locked containers that Walgreens? Why do malls you have now have to be chaperoned by a parent? The vast majority of these beatings and assaults, etc. are over overwhelmingly what color? You’re trying to make it an age thing when it’s just not. Its a culture So it's exclusively blacks showing up and making trouble? None of the malls around here require chaperones for teens. What kind of bassackward place do you live? Am I the only old that remembers what it was like to be young? You should try it sometime. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted May 19 Posted May 19 17 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Wow, confirmed! More Tranny violence, I'm sick of it. With one, anonymous source cited for the proposition I might say alleged rather than confirmed, but that's me. Quote
cyclone24 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: So it's exclusively blacks showing up and making trouble? None of the malls around here require chaperones for teens. What kind of bassackward place do you live? Am I the only old that remembers what it was like to be young? You should try it sometime. Not at all. We’re also 99% white so we don’t have those kinds of problems. Take a guess what the demographic is in the places that need things locked behind cases and malls needing chaperones. Just take a wild guess. Yeah, it’s weird. I guess my childhood was filled with playing dunk ball with my friends or baseball out in the field, ordering pizzas and playing tecmo bowl. I guess I must’ve missed the invite to go hit each other with wooden baby high chairs at the local McDonald’s, or have a mob of us flood a convenience store and rob it blind to which I may or may not beat up the cashier. 1 Quote
dogcows Posted May 19 Posted May 19 46 minutes ago, Fnord said: I had to google teen takeovers, never heard of them. Unsurprisingly, many of the links were from Fox News. I didn't click on them but did do some more research. What I found was, again unsurprisingly, not quite what you make it out to be. Basically, these things are put together via viral SM posts. Most of them at least begin as a way for teens to hang out and socialize. This is a good thing! Then, as they go on, much like your average protest, things get squirrelly. Some idiots get in a fight, a few more idiots vandalize property, and then sometimes some uberidiots start shooting. Cops show up to break it up, and the kids doing nothing wrong get thrown in with the troublemakers. This is a bad thing. I'm in favor of measures that get teens out of the house, off of their devices, and offer a chance to socialize with each other. The old grumps here (of which I am definitely one) I think take for granted that younger folks today don't have nearly the outlets we had for in person socializing, despite their access to information being about a million times more than what we had. Any time you have a big gathering of people, there are going to be folks intent on being disorderly jerks. Cut the kids some slack, prosecute the ones actually committing crimes, and lets figure out positive ways for our young to gather together and enjoy each other's company like we used to. The DC council brought in some teenagers to ask about the takeovers. The kids have no problem explaining what's going on. After-school programs get cut, kids make their own unsanctioned activities... and sometimes a few bad kids cause trouble. https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-teens-takeover-city-leaders-recreation-activities-crime-sports-washington-council-members-panel-parents-crime-safety-felder-parker-white-gallery-place-noma-public-voice-hearing-speak-navy-yard 2 Quote
Engorgeous George Posted May 19 Posted May 19 When I was a teen we made efforts to avoid scrutiny from parents, LEO, and other authority figures. We did not take over public spaces, we sought out out of the way private spaces, difficult for old folks to access. When events were in public spaces we had a rule, Don't scare the straights. We wanted to avoid confrontation. Nowadays it seems like they seek confrontation so they can post about it on SM as they feel it confers status. Different times. Who knows what will be next. 1 Quote
cyclone24 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 17 minutes ago, dogcows said: The DC council brought in some teenagers to ask about the takeovers. The kids have no problem explaining what's going on. After-school programs get cut, kids make their own unsanctioned activities... and sometimes a few bad kids cause trouble. https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-teens-takeover-city-leaders-recreation-activities-crime-sports-washington-council-members-panel-parents-crime-safety-felder-parker-white-gallery-place-noma-public-voice-hearing-speak-navy-yard Almost all of these occurrences whether they are takeovers or mob robberies are late at night. Tell me which afterschool activity they could have that’s past 11 PM on any night. They also come from a vast majority of single parent homes that are in poverty. I mean at some point we have to stop excusing well it’s because this program got cut or their kids cut them some slack or it’s just a few bad kids No, it’s a cultural acceptance that they’re going to have kids out of wedlock, not be able to afford them, not be able to discipline them, not be able to keep them in school, not be able to keep them employed, and this is what happens as a culture. 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 19 Posted May 19 50 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: Curious about these teen "takeovers". We hear they often are promoted on SM. Do they say on social media they are going to gather for good times, or do they say thay are going to "takeover" a space. If so I suggest finding and prosecuting any who tansmit that messsage as it is fomenting or encouraging a riot. To takeover a place is to occupy and exclude others, by force. That is encouraging a riot. As for the Muslims and their Islamist centers I recognize their are some extreme views within that general population. I see similar extreme views in the Christian population. I might percieve that the percentage of extreme views is higher in one demographic than the other, but the extremes exist in both and when you add the irrationality and fanaticism of religion to extreme views you have a volitile cocktail. (Also, my perception on the rate of extremism in each religion may be biased on my experiences and exposure to each and to media.) I might prefer there were no religions or if there have to be that they were all Buddhists or BaHa'i were I don't see the violent extremes, but I do believe folks have a right to their beliefs and to their non violent practice or expression of those beliefs. As my man Archie Bunker used to say, pfffffft. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted May 19 Posted May 19 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: As my man Archie Bunker used to say, pfffffft. Edith was the only one with a lick of sense Archie, Meathead, and Gloria were all brainwashed. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 19 Posted May 19 18 minutes ago, HellToupee said: I'm scared to let my Kids around Trannies. There are a few Trannies in my Kids schools and I'm terrified that they'll shoot up the place. It's gotten so bad, terrifying. 2 Quote
dogcows Posted May 19 Posted May 19 11 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: I'm scared to let my Kids around Trannies. There are a few Trannies in my Kids schools and I'm terrified that they'll shoot up the place. It's gotten so bad, terrifying. The safest bet is to take your kids and move to Nigeria. They ban gender expression of transgender people there. Send us a postcard when you get there. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 hours ago, dogcows said: The safest bet is to take your kids and move to Nigeria. They ban gender expression of transgender people there. Send us a postcard when you get there. I never thought of Nigeria as a destination. Your post made me ponder the potential wonders of the place so I googled Lagos tourism. One of the returns I got was on a famous floating slum. Yep, you can take a tour of a city slum which is apparently a bunch of floating houseboats and barges. Quote
Fnord Posted May 19 Posted May 19 1 hour ago, Engorgeous George said: I never thought of Nigeria as a destination. Your post amde me ponder the potential wonders of the place so I googled Lagos tourism. one of the returns I got was on a famous floating slum. Yep, you can take a tour of a city slum which is apparently a bunch of floating houseboats and barges. Perfect housing for MO, whose brain is already a flotilla of assiduously curated toxic trash. 1 Quote
SUXBNME Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 hours ago, Fnord said: So it's exclusively blacks showing up and making trouble? Nope Quote
HellToupee Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 hours ago, Maximum Overkill said: I'm scared to let my Kids around Trannies. There are a few Trannies in my Kids schools and I'm terrified that they'll shoot up the place. It's gotten so bad, terrifying. The meds really do a number on a seemingly large portion of them Quote
seafoam1 Posted May 19 Posted May 19 2 minutes ago, HellToupee said: The meds really do a number on a seemingly large portion of them Hopefully they are put to sleep pills. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 20 Posted May 20 5 hours ago, dogcows said: move to Nigeria Wait, you get mad when we refer to Nigeria as a shitthole. Is it?? Quote
Engorgeous George Posted May 20 Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Transgender AND Trump haters Hmmm Quote
easilyscan Posted May 20 Posted May 20 23 hours ago, HellToupee said: How did this guy get elected San Diego has one of the largest and most prominent Filipino populations in the United States, with over 200,000 residents of Filipino descent calling the region home. They comprise the largest Asian American ethnic group in the county and the second-largest Filipino community in the entire nation, trailing only the greater Los Angeles area. Quote
HellToupee Posted May 20 Posted May 20 12 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Transgender AND Trump haters The deceased security guard wasn’t very fond of white people. Doesn’t mean he should die , just painting the full picture also 2 911 hijackers had a connection to that mosque Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 20 Posted May 20 46 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Transgender AND Trump haters Wow, that's crazy! @Caine Mutiny Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 14 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Wow, that's crazy! @Caine Mutiny You guys should really check your news sources. Here is Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/san-diego-islamic-center-shooting-7f74a37a58116f40e852a303ea23230d The shooters were white supremacists. They hated Muslims, Jews, blacks, and gay people. Sorry to disappoint some here. 1 3 Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 20 Posted May 20 19 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: You guys should really check your news sources. Here is Associated Press: https://apnews.com/article/san-diego-islamic-center-shooting-7f74a37a58116f40e852a303ea23230d The shooters were white supremacists. They hated Muslims, Jews, blacks, and gay people. Sorry to disappoint some here. They left out a few key details, didn't they? Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 35 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: They left out a few key details, didn't they? No. Quote
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