TBayXXXVII Posted May 20 Posted May 20 20 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Adolph Hitler could come back from the dead and say he is pledging himself to the liberal cause, and they would accept him with wide open arms. "See! Even Adolph is anti Trump!" Oh, 100%. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 20 Posted May 20 9 hours ago, Mark Davis said: I already know who it is, I suspect it helped him clear the field of Gov Mills. As far as the primary insults I remember, Bush was stupid, Obama was born in Kenya, Trump is a Nazi or Fascist depending on the day of the week. You don't need a counter to remember all that. Vast majority of people that would vote for a candidate because they think they are a Nazi are going to be associated with far right fringe. Luckily this is a tiny amount of people. Most people just vote for the color tie. Then there’s the head shaking, mind numbing number who vote for whoever Donald tells them to. Biggest mystery of my lifetime Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 20 Posted May 20 35 minutes ago, Fnord said: I've called Trump a fascist because I believe he truly is one. Not ideologically, but the way he "governs" fits the description. I fail to see any ideology with him at all other than relentless self promotion, aggrandizement, and enrichment. Calling him a nazi is a bridge too far, though. I don't think he's evil. But he is such a corrupt narcissist that much of what he does comes off as evil-ish. We're not even close to seeing the full fallout from his actions this term. Yeah. I remember fascists being struck down by the courts and abiding by it. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 20 Posted May 20 9 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: 20 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: Adolph Hitler could come back from the dead and say he is pledging himself to the liberal cause, and they would accept him with wide open arms. "See! Even Adolph is anti Trump!" Oh, 100%. If Donald told folks to vote for him they would, unless Adolf wanted the Epstein Files released then he would be persona non grata. 1 Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted May 20 Posted May 20 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: If Donald told folks to vote for him they would, unless Adolf wanted the Epstein Files released then he would be persona non grata. I'd vote for any non-establishment/non-socialist/non-communist... regardless of their name. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 20 Posted May 20 7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'd vote for any non-establishment/non-socialist/non-communist... regardless of their name. That sounds like the Massie dude in Kentucky. Donald just got him bounced because he embarrassed him on the Epstein Files and wanted federal spending to come down. That was the point I was making. Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted May 20 Posted May 20 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'd vote for any non-establishment/non-socialist/non-communist... regardless of their name. Too bad you voted for Trump then. Big whiff on that one. 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 20 Posted May 20 34 minutes ago, thegeneral said: If Donald told folks to vote for him they would, unless Adolf wanted the Epstein Files released then he would be persona non grata. How about all the rest that Trump got bounced? Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 Just a reminder that Antifa are far left extremists. Quote
Fnord Posted May 20 Posted May 20 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: I'd vote for any non-establishment/non-socialist/non-communist... regardless of their name. Voting for inept shitstains must be your thing. So since the GOP controls everything and they are clearly the establishment at this point, you'll be voting all blue down the ticket in November, huh? SMART! Don't bother responding. You'll just look more foolish than the above absurdity already made you look. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 20 Author Posted May 20 57 minutes ago, Fnord said: Voting for inept shitstains must be your thing. So since the GOP controls everything and they are clearly the establishment at this point, you'll be voting all blue down the ticket in November, huh? SMART! Don't bother responding. You'll just look more foolish than the above absurdity already made you look. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 20 Posted May 20 On 5/19/2026 at 2:46 PM, thegeneral said: Will you be wearing I’m with her shirt I’ll wait til we get to the part where you denigrate his military service because he’s a :gasp: liberal! You were saying? I guess it’s ok when the Nazi tattoo guy you support disparages his fellow veterans service. Quote
Engorgeous George Posted May 20 Posted May 20 14 hours ago, thegeneral said: I think pretty much every president has been called a Nazi in my lifetime. People throw out that term a lot. I don’t get your point here. Just like with this dude, he’s not a Nazi. He’s a dumbass for getting this tattoo that he thought looked cool when he was 22. Millions of people have dumbass tattoos. I’m pretty certain this guy is going to roll the old broad up in Maine. If he does that he will def be a darling. A populist, marine, oyster farmer who has no political experience becoming a senator. If this guy put on a red tie, talked about deporting immigrants and cutting taxes Fox nation would shoot their collective wads. Clean up in middle America, clean up! Quote
Mark Davis Posted May 20 Posted May 20 6 hours ago, thegeneral said: Vast majority of people that would vote for a candidate because they think they are a Nazi are going to be associated with far right fringe. Luckily this is a tiny amount of people. Most people just vote for the color tie. Then there’s the head shaking, mind numbing number who vote for whoever Donald tells them to. Biggest mystery of my lifetime That's simply not true these days in my opinion. At one time I would have agreed with you. But there is a significant portion of the far left rooted in antisemitism and pro Hamas type beliefs. There is a crossing of far left and far right sometimes where they overlap, and that may be the case here to an extent. But that once marginalized part of the socialist, communist, fringe left has become a younger and more politically active group. They support Hamas either directly or tacitly. And before we go there, I don't equate that with being skeptical or critical of Israel. You can criticize Israel without being pro Hamas, but whether through ideology or ignorance (like you say with Platner) of inexperience and youth, this group falls under the far left banner these days more than the far right. There is a reason these folks more align with the Bernie/AOC/Squad politicians of today. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 20 Posted May 20 53 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: That's simply not true these days in my opinion. At one time I would have agreed with you. But there is a significant portion of the far left rooted in antisemitism and pro Hamas type beliefs. There is a crossing of far left and far right sometimes where they overlap, and that may be the case here to an extent. But that once marginalized part of the socialist, communist, fringe left has become a younger and more politically active group. They support Hamas either directly or tacitly. And before we go there, I don't equate that with being skeptical or critical of Israel. You can criticize Israel without being pro Hamas, but whether through ideology or ignorance (like you say with Platner) of inexperience and youth, this group falls under the far left banner these days more than the far right. There is a reason these folks more align with the Bernie/AOC/Squad politicians of today. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this. Antisemitism does exist on both extremes and there are definitely fringe left that have grown more recently that cross into this space. But when you narrow it to people explicitly drawn to Nazi imagery, symbolism, racial nationalism, or openly Nazi-identifying candidates, that still overwhelmingly falls onto far-right movements like the Nick Fuentes/Groyper/Patriot Front types world rather than the activist left you describe. Not to mention your old school traditional Nazi skinhead types who are undoubtedly far right. Whatever the case may be…this dude is not Nazi despite having this tattoo that he has since covered. Do you agree? 1 Quote
Mark Davis Posted May 21 Posted May 21 20 hours ago, thegeneral said: I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this. Antisemitism does exist on both extremes and there are definitely fringe left that have grown more recently that cross into this space. But when you narrow it to people explicitly drawn to Nazi imagery, symbolism, racial nationalism, or openly Nazi-identifying candidates, that still overwhelmingly falls onto far-right movements like the Nick Fuentes/Groyper/Patriot Front types world rather than the activist left you describe. Not to mention your old school traditional Nazi skinhead types who are undoubtedly far right. Whatever the case may be…this dude is not Nazi despite having this tattoo that he has since covered. Do you agree? I honestly can’t tell you if he is or not. I mean factually all I can tell you for sure is the tattoo part. To me that says a lot but it’s certainly possible he didn’t know. But my opinion of him is pretty low separate from the political alone because of that. I just see it as binary. He either knew and is a scumbag or he didn’t know and is an idiot. I don’t know which it is, but neither are good qualities to me. Whether he’s a R or D is not really relevant to that opinion. One example is I have some pretty strong opinions on Ken Paxton as well. But our tribal nature has us all having to vote for people who are pretty bad, even more so than the recent past because we view them policy wise to be the lesser of two evils or even someone who as a person we may not like, but policy wise may do some things we do like. When I mentioned Roy Moore earlier it reminded me of his primary against Jeff Sessions. Moore had won the primary over Sessions before the worst came out. But to anyone in AL paying attention Moore was always an issue. The man had extremely close general elections in Alabama by our standards. He’s extremely arrogant and eccentric if you meet him. I’m not capable nor qualified to say but almost to the point I felt he had some personality disorder. Just a weird man. However, I do at least say the primary had locked him into being the candidate before the thing that sunk him came out. We’ve apparently graduated beyond that now to where when these things come out in primaries it doesn’t matter. Look at Platner and Paxton. They are defeating a governor and senator. Both have known issues and yet they are just sailing through. I’m not saying the issues compared to Moore are equivalent, but rather when you put forward people with issues, most times there’s more to come. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 21 Author Posted May 21 20 hours ago, thegeneral said: Whatever the case may be…this dude is not Nazi despite having this tattoo that he has since covered. Do you agree? You wouldn't be saying that if he was a Republican. Be honest Quote
Strike Posted May 21 Posted May 21 20 hours ago, thegeneral said: Whatever the case may be…this dude is not Nazi despite having this tattoo that he has since covered. Do you agree? Tell this to Genevieve McDonald and let me know what she says. She would know better than either of us. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 21 Posted May 21 3 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: I honestly can’t tell you if he is or not. I mean factually all I can tell you for sure is the tattoo part. To me that says a lot but it’s certainly possible he didn’t know. But my opinion of him is pretty low separate from the political alone because of that. I just see it as binary. He either knew and is a scumbag or he didn’t know and is an idiot. I don’t know which it is, but neither are good qualities to me. Whether he’s a R or D is not really relevant to that opinion. One example is I have some pretty strong opinions on Ken Paxton as well. But our tribal nature has us all having to vote for people who are pretty bad, even more so than the recent past because we view them policy wise to be the lesser of two evils or even someone who as a person we may not like, but policy wise may do some things we do like. i think it’s a pretty fair bet he’s not a Nazi. What would you say about an 80 year old man who wears a pound of orange makeup every day and dyes his hair blonde Agreed people have to make choices based on a host of things and there is no perfect candidate. Usually boils down to their party. Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 21 Author Posted May 21 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: think it’s a pretty fair bet he’s not a Nazi. Have you not seen the videos of him? Quote
thegeneral Posted May 21 Posted May 21 9 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Have you not seen the videos of him? The video of him with his shirt off? He said that was taken at his brother’s wedding party. The bride and her family are Jewish. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 21 Posted May 21 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The video of him with his shirt off? He said that was taken at his brother’s wedding party. The bride and her family are Jewish. Oh. That means the tattoo he has isn’t a Nazi one. Got it. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh. That means the tattoo he has isn’t a Nazi one. Got it. Have you ever not made a strawman argument I swear it’s every post you make. 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 21 Posted May 21 54 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Have you ever not made a strawman argument I swear it’s every post you make. I don’t think you know what that means. Look it up and practice it a few times before you use it. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 21 Posted May 21 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I don’t think you know what that means. Look it up and practice it a few times before you use it. It’s all you do, in like every reply you make In this case I never said this didn’t resemble a Nazi tat. Quote
Reality Posted May 21 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh. That means the tattoo he has isn’t a Nazi one. Got it. He only had it for 18 years, cut the dude some slack. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 21 Posted May 21 14 minutes ago, Reality said: He only had it for 18 years, cut the dude some slack. This tattoo passed two military screenings for hate speech. He says he had no clue it was a Nazi thing until he became internet famous and people saw it. I believe this unless there is some other evidence. Quote
thegeneral Posted May 21 Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Maximum Overkill said: You wouldn't be saying that if he was a Republican. Be honest I don’t believe I have called any politician a Nazi. Well maybe Hitler. Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted May 22 Posted May 22 On 5/20/2026 at 1:05 PM, Fnord said: Voting for inept shitstains must be your thing. So since the GOP controls everything and they are clearly the establishment at this point, you'll be voting all blue down the ticket in November, huh? SMART! Don't bother responding. You'll just look more foolish than the above absurdity already made you look. I live in NJ, we only have Democrats to vote for. I don't/didn't vote for Van Drew. Trump is a WAY better option than what the Democrats put forward. Quote
TBayXXXVII Posted May 22 Posted May 22 On 5/20/2026 at 11:20 AM, Caine Mutiny said: Too bad you voted for Trump then. Big whiff on that one. Lol, yeah, huh. Quote
TimHauck Posted May 23 Posted May 23 On 5/21/2026 at 2:37 PM, Strike said: Tell this to Genevieve McDonald and let me know what she says. She would know better than either of us. Would she? She only worked for him for less than two months, resigned before the tattoo became public, and didn’t say anything about the tattoo when she resigned. Strike wrong again. Hope you learned to not constantly break Mike’s rules anymore while you were on vacation. 1 Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 23 Posted May 23 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Would she? She only worked for him for less than two months, resigned before the tattoo became public, and didn’t say anything about the tattoo when she resigned. Strike wrong again. Hope you learned to not constantly break Mike’s rules anymore while you were on vacation. You want to do another week? I’ll go first again. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 23 Posted May 23 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You want to do another week? I’ll go first again. Quote
TimHauck Posted May 23 Posted May 23 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You want to do another week? I’ll go first again. Nah I’m good. I’m proud of you for actually being able to do it though. Now you just need to learn how to stop lying and being wrong so often. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 23 Posted May 23 46 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Nah I’m good. I’m proud of you for actually being able to do it though. Now you just need to learn how to stop lying and being wrong so often. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 24 Posted May 24 He refused to apologize for mocking vet wounded in combat. But Hegseth said mean things about Wokies in the military! Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted May 25 Posted May 25 This guy is a real POS. He has attacked numerous combat veterans service. Not just them, but their service. Of course they are all republicans. He’s a real shitstain. Quote
TimHauck Posted May 25 Posted May 25 11 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: This guy is a real POS. He has attacked numerous combat veterans service. Not just them, but their service. Of course they are all republicans. He’s a real shitstain. Lol at implying his comment about Daniels was political. It was in a subreddit about tactical military operations. And calling him being annoyed that a guy acting like the paparazzi was following him at the grocery store as “refusing to apologize” is a bit of a stretch. I see he criticized JD Vance for not seeing actual combat (true), and suggested the unit Chris Kyle was in (not Kyle specifically, so not necessarily “all Republicans”) may have killed civilians. Others have claimed this as well. Interesting article here (Platner is one of several named sources but this is from 2024 well before his campaign started), Jocko Willink even admitted to civilian killings, but downplayed them as “military aged males” (hmm, sounds familiar!): https://theiceman.substack.com/p/the-trouble-with-task-unit-bruiser Besides JD Vance and Ted Daniels, what Republican veterans do you think Platner “attacked”? Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted May 25 Author Posted May 25 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I see he criticized JD Vance for not seeing actual combat (true), So attacking non-combat vets is ok to you? 90% of military vets never see combat. Quote
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