Graham Platner, Democrat Candidate & Rising Star

[TimHauck]

45 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Hey, the NYT gaslit you and you bought it, it happens.  Buck up and live to be moderate another day.  

But since I promised to give you the NYT's response, here it is.  Well, it's more of a non-response.  Also on Yahoo so you should be able to find it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/york-times-under-scrutiny-over-154226149.html

The bolded is squissy-level pedantics.  "Many"?  Also, it avoids the accusation that they flat out didn't contact 3 of the women provided.  It also doesn't address the fact that it was a treatise about Fifield's political affiliations with an obligatory "there was a disturbing arm grab but let's get back to the MAGA accuser" at the end.

I’m sorry, repeatedly claiming that an article titled “Several Women Who Dated Graham Platner Recall Unsettling Behavior” was really a “Platner puff piece” is truly crazy to me.   The GC never ceases to amaze.

Wait, this Fox News link is now claiming Racicot told the NY Times the whole story, but off the record?  And they don’t even use quotes to do so.  Are they just misinterpreting her statements or has this claim been reported elsewhere?

[Hardcore troubadour]

So, going forward, democrats don’t care about someone’s past, we are all flawed. Good to know. 

[seafoam1]

29 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m sorry, repeatedly claiming that an article titled “Several Women Who Dated Graham Platner Recall Unsettling Behavior” was really a “Platner puff piece” is truly crazy to me.   The GC never ceases to amaze.

Wait, this Fox News link is now claiming Racicot told the NY Times the whole story, but off the record?  And they don’t even use quotes to do so.  Are they just misinterpreting her statements or has this claim been reported elsewhere?

Keep sticking up for platner. Its a great use of your time. You go girl. 

Oh, you can report me again for that if you want. 

[seafoam1]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

So, going forward, democrats don’t care about someone’s past, we are all flawed. Good to know. 

This is key. Unfortunately, they will never remember or own up to it in the future when they continue calling normals hypocrites.

[TimHauck]

57 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Hey, the NYT gaslit you

Here were some of the posts here when the article first dropped.   I was pretty much the only one here that said the article didn’t seem that bad (even Tim called it “troubling”).    It was nowhere close to being a “puff piece.”

On 6/4/2026 at 5:37 PM, Strike said:

I keep telling you libs you're hitching your wagon to the wrong horse, but you won't listen.  The GOP hasn't even started on this guy yet.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html?smid=tw-share

 

On 6/4/2026 at 6:54 PM, Maximum Overkill said:

Women romantically linked to Platner describe ‘toxic,’ ‘unsettling’ conduct: New York Times

by Julia Mueller 06/04/26 06:06 PM ET

He threatened to rape people. He said Rape is power. 

“He said this a lot: If anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them,” Fifield told The Times. 

He has @thegeneral 's vote 

 

On 6/4/2026 at 11:07 PM, Caine Mutiny said:

I won’t lie the NY Times article about his treatment of women is troubling. Much more troubling than the tattoo which I think is unimportant. 

 

On 6/5/2026 at 1:05 AM, Engorgeous George said:

So apparently he believes he should get a pass for negative behavior because he went through a dark period with undiagnosed PTSD.  Its a panacea excuse absolving all past sins.  Nice.  The guy seems like the poster child for toxic masculinity but he is being embraced.  what I don't get is if the argument is well anybody but Trump, against whom, BTW, he is not running, well then get anybody, not this specific body. 

 

[TimHauck]

12 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Keep sticking up for platner. Its a great us of your time. You go girl. 

Oh, you can report me again for that if you want. 

I’m not sticking up for him.  I’m sticking up for the NY Times, I guess? If they wanted to “protect Platner,” they wouldn’t have published the story.

[Voltaire]

I wish he'd have lasted anotehr week and he'd be in the clear and the left would have to kiss his ass again. Instead they gave him the Biden treatment and he folded.

[seafoam1]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not sticking up for him.  I’m sticking up for the NY Times, I guess? If they wanted to “protect Platner,” they wouldn’t have published the story.

Yeah. Sure. A bit late to the party only because they were forced to fold their hand. 

Wake up dude. Jeez.

[TimHauck]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/york-times-under-scrutiny-over-154226149.html

 

 

59 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

Wait, this Fox News link is now claiming Racicot told the NY Times the whole story, but off the record?  And they don’t even use quotes to do so.  Are they just misinterpreting her statements or has this claim been reported elsewhere?

OK I just re-read the original Politico article, and she does claim

“she was contacted by The New York Times in the spring and shared off the record that Platner had assaulted her. “

Ironically in reference to our conversation, it was pretty well buried in the article and in the very beginning they described it differently.  I’ll take the L on that part, but 

1) I think that kinda backs up the NYT’s side.   She’s saying she didn’t want them to publish that, so it would make sense IMO that they wouldn’t make what she did want to publish more prominent in the article.

2) That doesn’t prove that “they,” being really anyone outside of Racicot, maybe a couple people at the NYT, and Racicot’s therapist (who for the record the article notes she talked with about the incident recently, doesn’t say anything about talking with the therapist at the time), knew about these allegations

[jerryskids]

11 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

2) That doesn’t prove that “they,” being really anyone outside of Racicot, maybe a couple people at the NYT, and Racicot’s therapist (who for the record the article notes she talked with about the incident recently, doesn’t say anything about talking with the therapist at the time), knew about these allegations

I have no idea what you are saying at this point.  "A couple of people at the NYT knowing about these allegations" is the entire point of our discussion.  They ignored it and wrote a piece to over emphasize her Republican ties and bury the (limited) "disturbing" stuff.

HTH

[The Girlfriend]

12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So, going forward, democrats don’t care about someone’s past, we are all flawed. Good to know. 

Actually quite the opposite.  Democrats have shown intolerance to sexual assault claims where Republicans and embraced and normalized such behavior.

[Strike]

1 minute ago, The Girlfriend said:

Actually quite the opposite.  Democrats have shown intolerance to sexual assault claims where Republicans and embraced and normalized such behavior.

Yeah, I remember how you guys threw Bill Clinton out of office after he shoved a cigar up an Interns twat.  

[The Girlfriend]

Just now, Strike said:

Yeah, I remember how you guys threw Bill Clinton out of office after he shoved a cigar up an Interns twat.  

That wasn't sexual assault.

[TimHauck]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I have no idea what you are saying at this point.  "A couple of people at the NYT knowing about these allegations" is the entire point of our discussion.  They ignored it and wrote a piece to over emphasize her Republican ties and bury the (limited) "disturbing" stuff.

HTH

That comment was about Racicot’s allegations, not Fifield’s.  Racicot was named in the NYT article even though for some reason @Strike incorrectly thinks she wasn’t, but apparently explicitly told the NYT that her most serious allegation was off the record, so for that reason it makes sense that the NYT would not focus on her story.

Bottom line is it’s ridiculous to call the NYT article a “puff piece.”   But carry on, I know you’re just taking your marching orders or else you would have been this adamant about that description when the article came out and not over a month later.

[Engorgeous George]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah, I remember how you guys threw Bill Clinton out of office after he shoved a cigar up an Interns twat.  

I always suspected had we gotten to the bottom of that story we would have found out they were Cuban Cigars he should not have had.  Someone should have just bought him a proper humidor.  They are not that expensive.

[Meglamaniac]

3 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I always suspected had we gotten to the bottom of that story we would have found out they were Cuban Cigars he should not have had.  Someone should have just bought him a proper humidor.  They are not that expensive.

we're not all as rich as you EG, $25+ a stick is pretty dang expensive

[Hardcore troubadour]

So the first girl was a republican and her claims were dismissed. The second girl was a liberal and hers were taken seriously. Liberals struggle with the All part of “believe all women” 

[TimHauck]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

So the first girl was a republican and her claims were dismissed. The second girl was a liberal and hers were taken seriously. Liberals struggle with the All part of “believe all women” 

The first girl’s worst allegation was grabbing her arm.

[squistion]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The first girl’s worst allegation was grabbing her arm.

Don't try to confuse HT with the facts. 

[Hardcore troubadour]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Don't try to confuse HT with the facts. 

You find out who Morris Katz is yet?

[thegeneral]

Platner been booted now. Meanwhile we got a guy in Colorado who says he committed murder and one in Texas who was impeached by his own party on bribery and obstruction of justice. Go get em boys!

[TimHauck]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Platner been booted now. Meanwhile we got a guy in Colorado who says he committed murder and one in Texas who was impeached by his own party on bribery and obstruction of justice. Go get em boys!

Don’t forget the guy in Ohio whose wife said assaulted her multiple times and is currently being investigated by the police for child abuse

[Tree of Knowledge]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Don’t forget the guy in Ohio whose wife said assaulted her multiple times and is currently being investigated by the police for child abuse

You can deflect all you want but nothing will wipe away the stain of Nazism from the Democrat Party. 
 

 

[TimHauck]

On 7/8/2026 at 8:58 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s two different people.  Shows how much you know about what’s going on. You never even heard of Morris Katz?  Please shut up.  Thanks. 

Guarantee you never heard of him before June 1. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

3 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

You can deflect all you want but nothing will wipe away the stain of Nazism from the Democrat Party. 
 

 

Yeah, who knew that all of the racists, nazis, homophobes and anti-semites were actually the ones pointing the fingers at everyone else calling them that? 

[Hardcore troubadour]

On 7/7/2026 at 5:02 AM, Frozenbeernuts said:

What they are saying here is that they found a guy with enough dirt at the time that they could use to blackmail and control him. At the time, the risk was deemed worth it. Then you see libs get played like a fiddle yet again, and they are happy about it. This left is a complete joke.

Liberals know their party auditions the candidates and hoards blackmail on them. They want their party to operate like this.

 

Maroff was dismissed from congresswoman Summer Lee’s staff due to three complaints about sexual harassment. You guys are doing a great job. He’s also the grandson of the founder of Toys R Us. Party of the working people. 

[Caine Mutiny]

This is the woman I’m rooting for: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenna_Bellows
 

I want some ACLU goodness in this race. 

[SaintsInDome2006]

4 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

You can deflect all you want but nothing will wipe away the stain of Nazism from the Democrat Party

Anyone think about how completely random it was that Platner’s tattoo came to light? Wasn’t it because he went kind of wild at a friend’s (cousin’s?) wedding and he took his shirt off & it was videoed?

Only other person in government I can think of with tattoos is Sec. Defense Pete Hegseth. (Who has some questionable tats himself). 

[EternalShinyAndChrome]

3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Anyone think about how completely random it was that Platner’s tattoo came to light? Wasn’t it because he went kind of wild at a friend’s (cousin’s?) wedding and he took his shirt off & it was videoed?

Only other person in government I can think of with tattoos is Sec. Defense Pete Hegseth. (Who has some questionable tats himself). 

What's your point? That it was a conspiracy to expose his Nazi tattoo?  You really think it's a tattoo that makes him a Nazi? 

[TimHauck]

11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Anyone think about how completely random it was that Platner’s tattoo came to light? Wasn’t it because he went kind of wild at a friend’s (cousin’s?) wedding and he took his shirt off & it was videoed?

Only other person in government I can think of with tattoos is Sec. Defense Pete Hegseth. (Who has some questionable tats himself). 

IIRC, the video was like 10 years old but a family member posted it as a memory on social media within the last year or so.  Then IIRC Platner’s team released it themselves when they realized what it looked like and that opponents might see it.
 

7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

What's your point? That it was a conspiracy to expose his Nazi tattoo?  You really think it's a tattoo that makes him a Nazi? 

That’s what MAGA thinks, because the tattoo is literally the only piece of evidence to suggest he’s a Nazi.  Everything he’s said, including in his Reddit post, shows that he is explicitly ANTI-Nazi.

In fact, even Fifield’s account in the NYT piece does not claim she thought he was a Nazi (which of course would mean she was willingly dating a Nazi).   She said:

he told her that he and other members of his unit selected the tattoo because “they were like a death unit, they were killers,” and saw a parallel between their unit and the Nazi Schutzstaffel, or S.S., unit, that used the skull-and-crossbones image.

[SaintsInDome2006]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

What's your point? That it was a conspiracy to expose his Nazi tattoo?  You really think it's a tattoo that makes him a Nazi? 

ESC, relax, seriously. Of course not. I was just pointing how easily it might have escaped notice, & how rare it is among public officials. Hegseth iirc was asked about his tats in his confirmation. That’s the only other person I can recall.

[SaintsInDome2006]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

That’s what MAGA thinks, because the tattoo is literally the only piece of evidence to suggest he’s a Nazi.  

TimH, I don’t think MAGAs believe it themselves. The point with that & the sex claims is to hold Dems to standards they don’t hold themselves. It’s meant to embarrass & humiliate.

[Mark Davis]

25 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

This is the woman I’m rooting for: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenna_Bellows
 

I want some ACLU goodness in this race. 

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_elections_in_Maine,_2014

Collins beat her more than 2:1 in 2014.  I don't think it's likely the Dems will back that horse.  But, from reports I've heard she still has federal funds on hand she can spend.  None of the others do.  So I guess it's possible given the money.

[Strike]

17 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Anyone think about how completely random it was that Platner’s tattoo came to light? Wasn’t it because he went kind of wild at a friend’s (cousin’s?) wedding and he took his shirt off & it was videoed?

Only other person in government I can think of with tattoos is Sec. Defense Pete Hegseth. (Who has some questionable tats himself). 

Which ones?   Link?

[squistion]

1 minute ago, Mark Davis said:

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_elections_in_Maine,_2014

Collins beat her more than 2:1 in 2014.  I don't think it's likely the Dems will back that horse.  But, from reports I've heard she still has federal funds on hand she can spend.  None of the others do.  So I guess it's possible given the money.

That was then and this is now.

[SaintsInDome2006]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

IIRC, the video was like 10 years old but a family member posted it as a memory on social media within the last year or so.  Then IIRC Platner’s team released it themselves when they realized what it looked like and that opponents might see it.

Thank you. It’s also kind of crazy to think that if he had left his shirt on at that party or if his friend/family member hadn’t videoed or posted it, then he might have never removed it even after becoming a Senator. 

[TimHauck]

8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

TimH, I don’t think MAGAs believe it themselves.

I think they do.

[thegeneral]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Maroff was dismissed from congresswoman Summer Lee’s staff due to three complaints about sexual harassment. You guys are doing a great job. He’s also the grandson of the founder of Toys R Us. Party of the working people. 

Sexual abuse claims didn’t stop Donald from getting elected is the takeaway there.

[Tree of Knowledge]

28 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Anyone think about how completely random it was that Platner’s tattoo came to light? Wasn’t it because he went kind of wild at a friend’s (cousin’s?) wedding and he took his shirt off & it was videoed?

Only other person in government I can think of with tattoos is Sec. Defense Pete Hegseth. (Who has some questionable tats himself). 

I just assumed one of the women he raped reported the tattoo to authorities.  

[thegeneral]

10 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thank you. It’s also kind of crazy to think that if he had left his shirt on at that party or if his friend/family member hadn’t videoed or posted it, then he might have never removed it even after becoming a Senator. 

It was from his brother’s wedding and he said the bride was a Jew and her Jewish family was there. This was one of his explanations as to that he didn’t know what it was which seemed credible to me.