Fnord Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, Strike said: Neither does Trump but you call him a Nazi daily. This is DEFINITELY a lie. Liar. Quote
Fnord Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: A byproduct of supporting a secular ideology. Oh boy. That's a conversation worthy of its own thread. I don't necessarily disagree, but there's a helluva lot of nuance there. Quote
Tree of Knowledge Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: Actually none of this is relevant. Upon learning of the Nazi tattoo, and his subsequent explanation, I had only one question: does Platner have any record of statements or political positions that would indicate pro-Nazi leanings? (This could be white supremacy, anti-semitism, extreme nationalism, etc.) The answer, so far as I can see, appears to be no. Therefore this doesn’t bother me. Come on guys. He’s one of the NICE Nazi’s. 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: Actually none of this is relevant. Upon learning of the Nazi tattoo, and his subsequent explanation, I had only one question: does Platner have any record of statements or political positions that would indicate pro-Nazi leanings? (This could be white supremacy, anti-semitism, extreme nationalism, etc.) The answer, so far as I can see, appears to be no. Therefore this doesn’t bother me. He did ask why black people don’t tip based on his personal experience as a bartender. I’m sure the same people that say things like “Dindu nuffin,” “quick twitch to violence,” and “to black people every day is no Father’s Day” probably think that’s racist though. Quote
Hardcore troubadour Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Black people are notorious poor tippers. Anyone denying that hasn’t been around. Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Black people are notorious poor tippers. Anyone denying that hasn’t been around. So it wasn’t racist for Platner to say that, correct? Quote
thegeneral Posted June 4 Posted June 4 53 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: I wouldn't lie about them. And what did he do to her? And "may have had"? So again, you don't know anything. You want to use the word 'possibly' a few times again? Well good for you, if you say so! The point is you don’t know either dipshit. Quote
Mark Davis Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Come on guys. He’s one of the NICE Nazi’s. He also may have not have had the official Trademark TM of the Nazi symbol on there. If an artist freehanded it and it wasn't the official one, it apparently isn't really a Nazi symbol. Platner to me is not really going to be any different than if Janet Mills wins. I believe Gov Mills is a better person than Platner, but she's going to vote pretty much the same. So if he does win as opposed to a Democrat like Mills, there's not really any difference. Just like Paxton will largely vote the way Cornyn would have. So while I might not like Paxton, policywise I'd prefer him to Talarico. If it got down to Platner vs Collins and that was the argument from someone on the left, I'd understand that stance. I'd have no problem with it, it's honest. It's this constant playing the fool to excuse the man that I don't get. Never mind there is still a primary here to choose another person who doesn't have a Nazi tattoo so it's not a lesser of evils thing. Quote
thegeneral Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 minute ago, Mark Davis said: He also may have not have had the official Trademark TM of the Nazi symbol on there. If an artist freehanded it and it wasn't the official one, it apparently isn't really a Nazi symbol. Platner to me is not really going to be any different than if Janet Mills wins. I believe Gov Mills is a better person than Platner, but she's going to vote pretty much the same. So if he does win as opposed to a Democrat like Mills, there's not really any difference. Just like Paxton will largely vote the way Cornyn would have. So while I might not like Paxton, policywise I'd prefer him to Talarico. If it got down to Platner vs Collins and that was the argument from someone on the left, I'd understand that stance. I'd have no problem with it, it's honest. It's this constant playing the fool to excuse the man that I don't get. Never mind there is still a primary here to choose another person who doesn't have a Nazi tattoo so it's not a lesser of evils thing. The other Dem suspended their campaign awhile ago. I have said the same thing for Trump for about 10 years. Why that guy? You answered the other reason why people will vote for Platner. He’ll have the blue tie. You think anyone gets pumped to vote for Susan Collins other than she wears a red button? Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 12 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: He also may have not have had the official Trademark TM of the Nazi symbol on there. If an artist freehanded it and it wasn't the official one, it apparently isn't really a Nazi symbol. Platner to me is not really going to be any different than if Janet Mills wins. I believe Gov Mills is a better person than Platner, but she's going to vote pretty much the same. So if he does win as opposed to a Democrat like Mills, there's not really any difference. Just like Paxton will largely vote the way Cornyn would have. So while I might not like Paxton, policywise I'd prefer him to Talarico. If it got down to Platner vs Collins and that was the argument from someone on the left, I'd understand that stance. I'd have no problem with it, it's honest. It's this constant playing the fool to excuse the man that I don't get. Never mind there is still a primary here to choose another person who doesn't have a Nazi tattoo so it's not a lesser of evils thing. This is a lot of words to admit you lied about there being apparently obvious photos (emphasis on the s) of the tattoo. Thanks Quote
Mark Davis Posted June 4 Posted June 4 8 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The other Dem suspended their campaign awhile ago. I have said the same thing for Trump for about 10 years. Why that guy? You answered the other reason why people will vote for Platner. He’ll have the blue tie. You think anyone gets pumped to vote for Susan Collins other than she wears a red button? Well, first off I have long said Trump personality wise isn't my favorite guy. However, policy wise he's in line with me much more than he isn't. Some of the harsh tones wouldn't be my choice. I didn't vote for him in either primary and I voted for Johnson in '16. I did vote for Trump in '20 and '24 because he was the closest to what I wanted policy wise. If it gets to Platner v Collins and someone has that stance, that's fine. You can pull for him, I'd understand it. If you don't like Collins' policy votes, again fine. But there have been some posts here attacking her which to me she's exactly the kind of Republican many Democrats seeking "normal Republicans" say that they want. She even voted to impeach Trump. But she's being used as a figurative devil here to justify a vote for Platner. So again, if you are on the left and just on policy disagree with her so much that's understandable. But Susan Collins is not some evil or bad person that I know of, certainly not on par with the Platner, Paxton, Moore variety. For example, I disagree with Chris Coons on almost everything politically. But I don't think the man himself is a bad person. And of the people on the "other side", he's one of the fairer people you can talk with. Quote
Mark Davis Posted June 4 Posted June 4 24 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This is a lot of words to admit you lied about there being apparently obvious photos (emphasis on the s) of the tattoo. Thanks I've been kind not to waste my time with you in the past. I'm going to try to continue being kind because I have found you worthy of some pity and grace in the past. Quote
thegeneral Posted June 4 Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: Well, first off I have long said Trump personality wise isn't my favorite guy. However, policy wise he's in line with me much more than he isn't. Some of the harsh tones wouldn't be my choice. I didn't vote for him in either primary and I voted for Johnson in '16. I did vote for Trump in '20 and '24 because he was the closest to what I wanted policy wise. If it gets to Platner v Collins and someone has that stance, that's fine. You can pull for him, I'd understand it. If you don't like Collins' policy votes, again fine. But there have been some posts here attacking her which to me she's exactly the kind of Republican many Democrats seeking "normal Republicans" say that they want. She even voted to impeach Trump. But she's being used as a figurative devil here to justify a vote for Platner. So again, if you are on the left and just on policy disagree with her so much that's understandable. But Susan Collins is not some evil or bad person that I know of, certainly not on par with the Platner, Paxton, Moore variety. For example, I disagree with Chris Coons on almost everything politically. But I don't think the man himself is a bad person. And of the people on the "other side", he's one of the fairer people you can talk with. That’s politics. It’s becoming more and more a binary choice. If being a bad person is important than our Prez may be one of the worst measuring sticks of all time. This Platner dude I will have no say in but would absolutely vote for him over the red tie at the moment for many of the reasons you have laid out. This tat stuff unless there is something else is a non-issue, the shitposting i have seen also not an issue (hello look at this place ) Trying to hook up with skanks online is disappointing but not disqualifying for me if that was what was going on. He seems kind of dumb and has a shown potentially a bad temperament for such a public job but is confident and I get why his shtick is appealing to rural folks among others. Certainly can see why he is more appealing than Collins or Janet Mills for that matter - who would have been a good candidate too I think. 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 22 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: I've been kind not to waste my time with you in the past. I'm going to try to continue being kind because I have found you worthy of some pity and grace in the past. I was honestly asking if there’s a more clear image of his tattoo other than the grainy screen grab. Your post implied there was, and yet you replied with snark and no further images. I’ll admit I’ve done it on a couple rare occasions but generally I try not to jump to conclusions unlike most here, apparently including yourself. Quote
Herbivore Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 hour ago, Mark Davis said: He also may have not have had the official Trademark TM of the Nazi symbol on there. If an artist freehanded it and it wasn't the official one, it apparently isn't really a Nazi symbol. Platner to me is not really going to be any different than if Janet Mills wins. I believe Gov Mills is a better person than Platner, but she's going to vote pretty much the same. So if he does win as opposed to a Democrat like Mills, there's not really any difference. Just like Paxton will largely vote the way Cornyn would have. So while I might not like Paxton, policywise I'd prefer him to Talarico. If it got down to Platner vs Collins and that was the argument from someone on the left, I'd understand that stance. I'd have no problem with it, it's honest. It's this constant playing the fool to excuse the man that I don't get. Never mind there is still a primary here to choose another person who doesn't have a Nazi tattoo so it's not a lesser of evils thing. I think it is a big stretch to compare Platner and Paxton. Paxton is corrupt to the core. Quote
Strike Posted June 4 Posted June 4 I keep telling you libs you're hitching your wagon to the wrong horse, but you won't listen. The GOP hasn't even started on this guy yet. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html?smid=tw-share Quote
CaptainObvious1 Posted June 4 Posted June 4 6 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: Actually none of this is relevant. Upon learning of the Nazi tattoo, and his subsequent explanation, I had only one question: does Platner have any record of statements or political positions that would indicate pro-Nazi leanings? (This could be white supremacy, anti-semitism, extreme nationalism, etc.) The answer, so far as I can see, appears to be no. Therefore this doesn’t bother me. All you care about is if there is a D after his name. 1 Quote
JuneJuly Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: You answered the other reason why people will vote for Platner. He’ll have the blue tie. You think anyone gets pumped to vote for Susan Collins other than she wears a red button? Absolutely. She's pro-business, wants to strengthen SS and Medicare, pro choice and pro military. Just like some people will vote for Platner because they like free handouts, free housing, tax the rich, Lqbqtrxyz+ once they get past the Nazi tattoos and women beating. Maybe he can just put on a keffiyeh to get away with it. Most people vote on policy, even the ghey free hadout ones. Most people don't wake up with red tie TDS every day like you. Quote
JuneJuly Posted June 4 Posted June 4 6 hours ago, Caine Mutiny said: Actually none of this is relevant. Upon learning of the Nazi tattoo, and his subsequent explanation, I had only one question: does Platner have any record of statements or political positions that would indicate pro-Nazi leanings? (This could be white supremacy, anti-semitism, extreme nationalism, etc.) The answer, so far as I can see, appears to be no. Therefore this doesn’t bother me. A nazi tattoo isn't considered a statement today in your made up world huh? Interesting. Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 Platner’s ex-girlfriend and Republican political employee/podcast host who accused Platner of “grabbing her arm” and knowing what the tattoo was, said she herself had no idea what the tattoo was. So much for “it’s so obvious it was a Nazi tattoo!” Quote
Strike Posted June 4 Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Platner’s ex-girlfriend and Republican political employee/podcast host who accused Platner of “grabbing her arm” and knowing what the tattoo was, said she herself had no idea what the tattoo was. So much for “it’s so obvious it was a Nazi tattoo!” First of all, I don't know that anyone thinks it's obvious it's a Nazi tattoo. Other than the one we all know about I'm not sure I could specifically identify other Nazi insignias. However, I'd sure as hell know what anything I put on my body represented. No one except TDS stricken people like you believe he doesn't know what it is. And the same girl you just mentioned also said he told her what it was. And she mentioned that to other people once he started running for office and BEFORE it became an issue. So there's ANOTHER person confirming he knew what it was. Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 6 minutes ago, Strike said: And she mentioned that to other people once he started running for office and BEFORE it became an issue. Pretty sure this is another lie from you, but I’ll admit if I’m wrong. Link? And not her claiming she told people previously but conveniently didn’t go on record about it until after it was public. Quote
thegeneral Posted June 4 Posted June 4 16 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: Absolutely. She's pro-business, wants to strengthen SS and Medicare, pro choice and pro military. Just like some people will vote for Platner because they like free handouts, free housing, tax the rich, Lqbqtrxyz+ once they get past the Nazi tattoos and women beating. Maybe he can just put on a keffiyeh to get away with it. Most people vote on policy, even the ghey free hadout ones. Most people don't wake up with red tie TDS every day like you. The funny thing is that you say “most people vote on policy” and then spend the entire post attacking caricatures of Platner supporters instead of discussing policy. Anyways people who oppose Collins generally look at things like her Kavanaugh vote, her judicial confirmation record, and her tendency to express grave concern about Republican and Donald’s actions while ultimately supporting them when it counts. Agreed people vote with their interests that’s what the whole back and forth with MD and I has been about. Collins has been in DC for decades and the poor people keep getting poorer. This Graham dude is tapping into that. I don’t think many will be swayed by his online dating but we’ll see. He has handled these attacks on his dipshit behavior ok but not great. Quote
HotRod Posted June 4 Posted June 4 So the Nazi adultering woman beaters were the Dems after all 1 Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 Women romantically linked to Platner describe ‘toxic,’ ‘unsettling’ conduct: New York Times by Julia Mueller 06/04/26 06:06 PM ET He threatened to rape people. He said Rape is power. “He said this a lot: If anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them,” Fifield told The Times. He has @thegeneral 's vote Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Women romantically linked to Platner describe ‘toxic,’ ‘unsettling’ conduct: New York Times by Julia Mueller 06/04/26 06:06 PM ET He threatened to rape people. He said Rape is power. “He said this a lot: If anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them,” Fifield told The Times. He has @thegeneral 's vote I heard the IDF is hiring Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 Just now, TimHauck said: I heard the IDF is hiring You'd be perfect Quote
thegeneral Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said: Women romantically linked to Platner describe ‘toxic,’ ‘unsettling’ conduct: New York Times by Julia Mueller 06/04/26 06:06 PM ET He threatened to rape people. He said Rape is power. “He said this a lot: If anybody ever broke in here, I would rape them,” Fifield told The Times. He has @thegeneral 's vote Tough on crime! Quote
Maximum Overkill Posted June 4 Author Posted June 4 Just now, thegeneral said: Tough on crime! He sure is Quote
JuneJuly Posted June 4 Posted June 4 25 minutes ago, thegeneral said: The funny thing is that you say “most people vote on policy” and then spend the entire post attacking caricatures of Platner supporters instead of discussing policy. If you want to describe those policies as caricature, I'm good with that. Quote
thegeneral Posted June 4 Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: If you want to describe those policies as caricature, I'm good with that. Right. You replaced policy arguments with slogans. Quote
Strike Posted June 4 Posted June 4 44 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Pretty sure this is another lie from you, but I’ll admit if I’m wrong. Link? And not her claiming she told people previously but conveniently didn’t go on record about it until after it was public. It's in the NY Times article I linked above. Not my fault if you chose not to read it. Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 2 minutes ago, Strike said: It's in the NY Times article I linked above. Not my fault if you chose not to read it. So not from before it became an issue, thanks for confirming Quote
Strike Posted June 4 Posted June 4 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So not from before it became an issue, thanks for confirming Uh, no. It's in the article. Keep re-reading or get your caretaker to do it for you. Is Tom Cruise in the room with you? Quote
TimHauck Posted June 4 Posted June 4 1 minute ago, Strike said: Uh, no. It's in the article. Keep re-reading or get your caretaker to do it for you. Is Tom Cruise in the room with you? 53 minutes ago, TimHauck said: And not her claiming she told people previously but conveniently didn’t go on record about it until after it was public. Quote
Strike Posted June 4 Posted June 4 19 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I have no idea what you're trying to say or suggest with these quotes. And I don't care. Read the article. Try to comprehend it. Or don't. Matters not to me. You're still backing the wrong horse, just like when you supported that POS illegal immigrant teacher/administrator. You're the Sunny Hostin of this bored. 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Just now, Strike said: I have no idea what you're trying to say or suggest with these quotes. And I don't care. Read the article. Try to comprehend it. Or don't. Matters not to me. You're still backing the wrong horse, just like when you supported that POS illegal immigrant teacher/administrator. You're the Sunny Hostin of this bored. Well the article is paywalled but I’m saying it’s awfully convenient that she goes on record now, after it was public, to claim she was telling people about it previously, and no one can prove this. TBH, if she’s claiming he abused her, considering she works for Republicans and is already a somewhat public figure, it’s a little fishy IMO that she’s just coming out with this now and not earlier in his campaign Quote
Strike Posted June 5 Posted June 5 22 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well the article is paywalled but I’m saying it’s awfully convenient that she goes on record now, after it was public, to claim she was telling people about it previously, and no one can prove this. TBH, if she’s claiming he abused her, considering she works for Republicans and is already a somewhat public figure, it’s a little fishy IMO that she’s just coming out with this now and not earlier in his campaign So you admit you didn't read the article? Yet you're commenting as if you did. Quote
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