I’m sick to death of weak Democrats

[Caine Mutiny]

The Governor of Colorado just commuted Tina Peters’ conviction, under pressure by Trump: 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-democrats-formally-censure-gov-polis-tina-peters-commutation.amp
 

This dude, Chuck Schumer, Corey Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, take your pick- always giving in to Trump. So sick of it. I’ve never been a fan of the progressive wing, the AOC-Mamdami wing. Don’t love their ideas. But you know what? I don’t give a sh!t anymore. If they are the only ones willing to fight this despot in the White House then so be it. Let them take over the party. Somebody has to stand up to this idiot. 

[supermike80]

The TDS is strong in this one and growing.   The democrats have already been there.  Blow up the supreme court, admit DC and PR, resort to violence.  Whatever it takes to stop Trump.  The dems don't care one tiny bit about democracy as long as it is against Trump.  
I'm surprised there are some far left liberals who aren't on board with this. 

[Caine Mutiny]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

The TDS is strong in this one and growing.   The democrats have already been there.  Blow up the supreme court, admit DC and PR, resort to violence.  Whatever it takes to stop Trump.  The dems don't care one tiny bit about democracy as long as it is against Trump.  
I'm surprised there are some far left liberals who aren't on board with this. 

Fock off with  your resorting to violence crap. 90% of the violence in the Trump era is by right wing extremists and everybody knows it. As for democracy right now the progressive left are the only ones who seem to care about it at all. 

[Caine Mutiny]

FWIW

1. I’m not for blowing up the SC. Retirement age yes. Expansion no. 
2. Not in favor of making DC a state. 
3. If Puerto Rico wants to be a state I’m good with it. Up to them. 
 

As I wrote I’m not on board with many of the progressive ideas. But I will start voting for them because at least they will fight MAGA. 

[TheNewGirl]

7 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

The Governor of Colorado just commuted Tina Peters’ conviction, under pressure by Trump: 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-democrats-formally-censure-gov-polis-tina-peters-commutation.amp
 

This dude, Chuck Schumer, Corey Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, take your pick- always giving in to Trump. So sick of it. I’ve never been a fan of the progressive wing, the AOC-Mamdami wing. Don’t love their ideas. But you know what? I don’t give a sh!t anymore. If they are the only ones willing to fight this despot in the White House then so be it. Let them take over the party. Somebody has to stand up to this idiot. 

You should be adding your own CA leadership to this. 

AG Bonta wants to tax CA even MORE to "fight Trump."  Federal wins. It doesn't matter what CA does to fight Federal law, and it's just ridiculous that you vote for these leaders who say that they need more money to fight the Federal govt. 

You're no better than these weak leaders, IMO because you buy into all of the rhetoric and support the policies. 

 

[Meglamaniac]

12 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

The Governor of Colorado just commuted Tina Peters’ conviction, under pressure by Trump: 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-democrats-formally-censure-gov-polis-tina-peters-commutation.amp
 

This dude, Chuck Schumer, Corey Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, take your pick- always giving in to Trump. So sick of it. I’ve never been a fan of the progressive wing, the AOC-Mamdami wing. Don’t love their ideas. But you know what? I don’t give a sh!t anymore. If they are the only ones willing to fight this despot in the White House then so be it. Let them take over the party. Somebody has to stand up to this idiot. 

So basically anyone out to get Trump.  We knew this for a long time, it's just nice to see you finally admit it

[Meglamaniac]

7 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

Fock off with  your resorting to violence crap. 90% of the violence in the Trump era is by right wing extremists and everybody knows it. As for democracy right now the progressive left are the only ones who seem to care about it at all. 

Careful, last time you started telling people to fock off you had to find a new username

[HellToupee]

Keep waiving the pom poms & make sure the cervesa is on ice for the work crew

[kilroy69]

5 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

Fock off with  your resorting to violence crap. 90% of the violence in the Trump era is by right wing extremists and everybody knows it. As for democracy right now the progressive left are the only ones who seem to care about it at all. 

You really do have the brain rot

[Caine Mutiny]

1 minute ago, TheNewGirl said:

You should be adding your own CA leadership to this. 

AG Bonta wants to tax CA even MORE to "fight Trump."  Federal wins. It doesn't matter what CA does to fight Federal law, and it's just ridiculous that you vote for these leaders who say that they need more money to fight the Federal govt. 

You're no better than these weak leaders, IMO because you buy into all of the rhetoric and support the policies. 

 

Your criticism is noted and not without merit. I vote for these guys because the alternative is worse. I’ve already told you: come up with a Republican conservative who will stand up to MAGA and I’ll strongly consider it. 
 

I’m sick of the Democratic Party. Never loved it and it’s to the point where I despise it. All I really care about is beating back this xenophobic, right wing populist anti-immigrant, anti-trade, anti-globalism point of view. Whomever wants to fight against that I’m for. 

[supermike80]

6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

You should be adding your own CA leadership to this. 

AG Bonta wants to tax CA even MORE to "fight Trump."  Federal wins. It doesn't matter what CA does to fight Federal law, and it's just ridiculous that you vote for these leaders who say that they need more money to fight the Federal govt. 

You're no better than these weak leaders, IMO because you buy into all of the rhetoric and support the policies. 

 

Hakeem Jeffries, one of realtims favorite people now, wants to "break the spirit" of trump voters.  Nice.  yeah, the dems aren't violent at all and they only care about the people.  Give me a break.   TDS is real, very very real.  It causes the left to do dumb things

[Caine Mutiny]

3 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Keep waiving the pom poms & make sure the cervesa is on ice for the work crew

At this point Modelo is more popular. Which I really don’t get. 

[supermike80]

7 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

So basically anyone out to get Trump.  We knew this for a long time, it's just nice to see you finally admit it

Eaactly.  Absolutely nothing else matters.  Not policy, not average americans.  Nothing.  Except "not Trump"  this did not work well in the last election but why not keep trying it?

 

[Caine Mutiny]

6 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

Careful, last time you started telling people to fock off you had to find a new username

Up to you if you want to report me like last time. 

[Meglamaniac]

Just now, Caine Mutiny said:

Up to you if you want to report me like last time. 

Take responsibility for your own actions

[cyclone24]

5/21/26 11:07 am

Trump finally broke Caine immunity and his spirit. 
 

RIP

[Caine Mutiny]

9 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

So basically anyone out to get Trump.  We knew this for a long time, it's just nice to see you finally admit it

Not “get Trump”. Stand up to Trump. 
 

And not really Trump either, the movement he represents. If you want to accuse me of MAGA Derangement Syndrome that would be more accurate. Guilty as charged; I believe it’s the most dangerous, most poisonous, most anti-American large political movement in the history of this country, and it must be stopped and eradicated by any peaceful legal means possible. 

[TheNewGirl]

 

10 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

Fock off with  your resorting to violence crap. 90% of the violence in the Trump era is by right wing extremists and everybody knows it. As for democracy right now the progressive left are the only ones who seem to care about it at all. 

If we TRULY had a right-wing violence issue, you'd know. 

Most of the right wing people with access to guns or other items are responsible owners. If there was TRULY an extremist, gun-toting-MAGA violence problem...we'd be seeing a LOT more of it, IMO. 

The left does not care about democracy. Again, your Governor can't have a Republican replace him, so he's changing the rules for the primary. Passing laws that we never voted on because he wanted them. That's not democracy. 

Quit crying about the left caring about democracy; they just keep changing the rules and the goal posts when it doesn't suit them. Kind of like you do when you back track on your posts. 

 

 

[Meglamaniac]

Just now, Caine Mutiny said:

Not “get Trump”. Stand up to Trump. 
 

And not really Trump either, the movement he represents. If you want to accuse me of MAGA Derangement Syndrome that would be more accurate. Guilty as charged; I believe it’s the most dangerous, most poisonous, most anti-American large political movement in the history of this country, and it must be stopped and eradicated by any peaceful legal means possible. 

Semantics 

[jerryskids]

6 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

Your criticism is noted and not without merit. I vote for these guys because the alternative is worse. I’ve already told you: come up with a Republican conservative who will stand up to MAGA and I’ll strongly consider it. 
 

I’m sick of the Democratic Party. Never loved it and it’s to the point where I despise it. All I really care about is beating back this xenophobic, right wing populist anti-immigrant, anti-trade, anti-globalism point of view. Whomever wants to fight against that I’m for. 

If by "anti-globalism" you mean against ceding American hegemony to China, Russia, and world government efforts, like the American Lasters want us to do, then count me in, I'm your huckleberry.   

[Frozenbeernuts]

26 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

The Governor of Colorado just commuted Tina Peters’ conviction, under pressure by Trump: 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colorado-democrats-formally-censure-gov-polis-tina-peters-commutation.amp
 

This dude, Chuck Schumer, Corey Booker, Hakeem Jeffries, take your pick- always giving in to Trump. So sick of it. I’ve never been a fan of the progressive wing, the AOC-Mamdami wing. Don’t love their ideas. But you know what? I don’t give a sh!t anymore. If they are the only ones willing to fight this despot in the White House then so be it. Let them take over the party. Somebody has to stand up to this idiot. 

I love it. Let the hate for yourself and your kind flow. Keep lowering your standards for life. Your principles are whatever get a democrat elected no matter how horrible of a human they are.

[Caine Mutiny]

2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

5/21/26 11:07 am

Trump finally broke Caine immunity and his spirit. 
 

RIP

lol Nah. Just venting against weak eatablishment  Dems. I’ll be in a better mood in November, and then likely a worse mood a year from now when we chicken out on holding Trump accountable again. 

[Caine Mutiny]

2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

 

If we TRULY had a right-wing violence issue, you'd know. 

Most of the right wing people with access to guns or other items are responsible owners. If there was TRULY an extremist, gun-toting-MAGA violence problem...we'd be seeing a LOT more of it, IMO. 

The left does not care about democracy. Again, your Governor can't have a Republican replace him, so he's changing the rules for the primary. Passing laws that we never voted on because he wanted them. That's not democracy. 

Quit crying about the left caring about democracy; they just keep changing the rules and the goal posts when it doesn't suit them. Kind of like you do when you back track on your posts. 

 

 

This js the second time you’ve made this claim. What rules has Newsom changed to prevent a Republican governor? Please be specific. 

[kilroy69]

1 minute ago, Caine Mutiny said:

lol Nah. Just venting against weak eatablishment  Dems. I’ll be in a better mood in November, and then likely a worse mood a year from now when we chicken out on holding Trump accountable again. 

In november? When congress is split? 

[cyclone24]

1 minute ago, Caine Mutiny said:

Not “get Trump”. Stand up to Trump. 
 

And not really Trump either, the movement he represents. If you want to accuse me of MAGA Derangement Syndrome that would be more accurate. Guilty as charged; I believe it’s the most dangerous, most poisonous, most anti-American large political movement in the history of this country, and it must be stopped and eradicated by any peaceful legal means possible. 

Will of the people be damned. Do everything you can to stop what people voted for.
 

If that’s not the Democratic motto, I don’t know what it is

[supermike80]

1 minute ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I love it. Let the hate for yourself and your kind flow. Keep lowering your standards for life. Your principles are whatever get a democrat elected no matter how horrible of a human they are.

Literally what he said.   He put on paper what most far left democrats want.   Get Trump, at any cost.  No care at all about the policies they represent.  In fact, the dude actually said he doesn't like their policies.  No matter. GET TRUMP.   Nothing else matters.   Mandami and the loon in Seattle can bankrupt their respective cities for all he cares.  as long as they GET TRUMP in the process.

I don't understand why people sit there and deny hat TDS exists.  I really don't

[cyclone24]

2 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

lol Nah. Just venting against weak eatablishment  Dems. I’ll be in a better mood in November, and then likely a worse mood a year from now when we chicken out on holding Trump accountable again. 

No, I get it. We say the same things about Republicans. Nobody’s ever fighting hard enough, but we both aimed the fighting the other side and never for the people they’re supposed to represent. 
 

Not just you, but I am kind of surprised with the way the election went just this particular cycle around. People wanted a more conservative Republican approach which again I’m admitting a cyclical, but that the left wouldn’t then counter that by coming back more to the center but instead, it feels like they’re going even farther left. Just something interesting.

[Caine Mutiny]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

If by "anti-globalism" you mean against ceding American hegemony to China, Russia, and world government efforts, like the American Lasters want us to do, then count me in, I'm your huckleberry.   

Exactly the opposite: globalism means standing up to Russia and China through trade deals (like the TPP which Trump opposed), international commitments to NATO and Taiwan and South Korea, etc. it means staying committed to the post WWII order and promoting free trade and supporting small countries like Ukraine when they get invaded. If you are for these things like I am then you can’t support MAGA. 

[Caine Mutiny]

4 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Literally what he said.   He put on paper what most far left democrats want.   Get Trump, at any cost.  No care at all about the policies they represent.  In fact, the dude actually said he doesn't like their policies.  No matter. GET TRUMP.   Nothing else matters.   Mandami and the loon in Seattle can bankrupt their respective cities for all he cares.  as long as they GET TRUMP in the process.

I don't understand why people sit there and deny hat TDS exists.  I really don't

Why do you constantly misrepresent me? I wrote in this very thread that it’s not about Trump it’s about MAGA ideas and then I want into detail about the ones I oppose. I support anyone, conservative or liberal, who stands up and fights against those ideas. Why is this so hard for you to understand? 

[Hardcore troubadour]

So Polis is trash  becase he defied the party. Ok. Sort of like Massie. Doh! 

[Strike]

For those who want to actually be informed on this issue, the reasons the Governor commuted her sentence are:

1)  He couldn't find anyone who had committed comparable crimes who had been sentenced this harshly.  Most received sentences like 6 months probation.

2)  The not being able to find anyone else similarly sentenced included a Democrat who recently was convicted of the SAME crime as Tina Peters but got a slap on the wrist.  IOW, he found the sentencing to be disparate between a Republican and a Democrat.  He was actually trying to be FAIR.

Polis found that the sentence was more for what Peters said in court instead of for the crimes she committed.

[cyclone24]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

For those who want to actually be informed on this issue, the reasons the Governor commuted her sentence are:

1)  He couldn't find anyone who had committed comparable crimes who had been sentenced this harshly.  Most received sentences like 6 months probation.

2)  The not being able to find anyone else similarly sentenced included a Democrat who was recently was convicted of the SAME crime as Tina Peters but got a slap on the wrist.  IOW, he found the sentencing to be disparate between a Republican and a Democrat.  He was actually trying to be FAIR.

Polis found that the sentence was more for what Peters said in court instead of for the crimes she committed.

Sorry when you have TDS you get to pick the narrative you want to fulfill the TDS. 
 

Please don’t bring facts in here.

[Caine Mutiny]

Just now, Strike said:

For those who want to actually be informed on this issue, the reasons the Governor commuted her sentence are:

1)  He couldn't find anyone who had committed comparable crimes who had been sentenced this harshly.  Most received sentences like 6 months probation.

2)  The not being able to find anyone else similarly sentenced included a Democrat who was recently was convicted of the SAME crime as Tina Peters but got a slap on the wrist.  IOW, he found the sentencing to be disparate between a Republican and a Democrat.  He was actually trying to be FAIR.

Polis found that the sentence was more for what Peters said in court instead of for the crimes she committed.

Welcome back Strike. If you were suspended rest assured I didn’t report you. 
 

 

[Caine Mutiny]

For those who care to read it, here is a complete rebuttal of @strike’s arguments based on the facts: 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/18/politics/fact-check-colorado-governor-tina-peters

[Fnord]

3 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

No, I get it. We say the same things about Republicans. Nobody’s ever fighting hard enough, but we both aimed the fighting the other side and never for the people they’re supposed to represent. 
 

Not just you, but I am kind of surprised with the way the election went just this particular cycle around. People wanted a more conservative Republican approach which again I’m admitting a cyclical, but that the left wouldn’t then counter that by coming back more to the center but instead, it feels like they’re going even farther left. Just something interesting.

The Dems really shat all over themselves from a cultural perspective during Biden's admin. Just went full anti-Trump policy willy-nilly in their chase to erase his policies, consequences and perception be damned. The party is feckless, toothless, rudderless, and leaderless.

Now Trump is making the same mistake, except he's also adding cronyism, despotism, and huge helpings of corruption. 

TDS was always a stupid term weaponized to mindlessly wash away any kind of dissent towards him without taking a look at the reasoning behind it. If a Dem POTUS did the same stuff, I'd denounce them just as much. Let's hope it never comes to that and this abomination is just a blip. My greatest fear is that someone more cunning and patient than Trump uses the groundwork he's laid to truly fock this nation over. Trump does it out of vanity, selfishness and ignorance. The next guy might have even worse intentions and be even better at exploiting opportunity.

[Hardcore troubadour]

Democrats are furious that an old lady with no criminal past won’t do more time in prison yet they say nothing about every violent thug that gets released out into the public.  

[Strike]

6 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said:

For those who care to read it, here is a complete rebuttal of @strike’s arguments based on the facts: 

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/18/politics/fact-check-colorado-governor-tina-peters

 

You need to read a dictionary.  The claims that articles supposedly rebuts are not the claims i made.  That is, by definition, NOT a rebuttal of my arguments.

[Hardcore troubadour]

Just now, Strike said:

 

You need to read a dictionary.  The claims that articles supposedly rebuts are not the claims i made.  That is, by definition, NOT a rebuttal.

Welcome back. I made a bet with Hack so he can’t post until Saturday so you should t get reported until then. 

[TheNewGirl]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

 

You need to read a dictionary.  The claims that articles supposedly rebuts are not the claims i made.  That is, by definition, NOT a rebuttal of my arguments.

Tim is struggling today. 

Maybe he hasn't gone on his walk to touch grass yet. 

[supermike80]

7 minutes ago, Fnord said:

The Dems really shat all over themselves from a cultural perspective during Biden's admin. Just went full anti-Trump policy willy-nilly in their chase to erase his policies, consequences and perception be damned. The party is feckless, toothless, rudderless, and leaderless.

Now Trump is making the same mistake, except he's also adding cronyism, despotism, and huge helpings of corruption. 

TDS was always a stupid term weaponized to mindlessly wash away any kind of dissent towards him without taking a look at the reasoning behind it. If a Dem POTUS did the same stuff, I'd denounce them just as much. Let's hope it never comes to that and this abomination is just a blip. My greatest fear is that someone more cunning and patient than Trump uses the groundwork he's laid to truly fock this nation over. Trump does it out of vanity, selfishness and ignorance. The next guy might have even worse intentions and be even better at exploiting opportunity.

TDS is not a great term, I get that, but it is real.  Look at realtim.  he just said he will vote for anyone, regardless of what they stand for, as long as they are against Trump.  How is that not TDS?