Mike Hunt Posted June 20 Posted June 20 16 minutes ago, BudBro said: link Unreal..Fauci should be in prison. And Biden knew it would come out eventually. AI Overview President Joe Biden issued a preemptive pardon for Dr. Anthony Fauci to protect him from potential retaliation and politically motivated prosecutions by the incoming Trump administration. NPR Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 14 hours ago, 5-Points said: Covid is over. 12 hours ago, 5-Points said: Who gives a sh!t? It's 2026. 1 Quote
CaptainObvious1 Posted June 20 Posted June 20 No big deal. Sho nuff found someone saying Covid was over. Totally a moderate stance here 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 24 minutes ago, CaptainObvious1 said: No big deal. Sho nuff found someone saying Covid was over. Totally a moderate stance here The moderate take on Fauci is that he made some mistakes, but he’s not a criminal and Covid isn’t his fault. His biggest mistake was recommending some people get 2 doses of the very effective Trump vaccine rather than trying to get 1 dose to as many people as possible. Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Another moderate take: if the admin tries to officially challenge Fauci’s pardon as “not legitimate,” it would prove they are an absolute joke. Biden commented on Fauci’s pardon, “bUt dA aUtOpEn!” is just an utterly ridiculous argument. I don’t think Trump is dumb enough to do that though. Quote
jerryskids Posted June 20 Posted June 20 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Another moderate take: if the admin tries to officially challenge Fauci’s pardon as “not legitimate,” it would prove they are an absolute joke. Biden commented on Fauci’s pardon, “bUt dA aUtOpEn!” is just an utterly ridiculous argument. I don’t think Trump is dumb enough to do that though. A moderate take would be to acknowledge the extremely high likelihood that Biden was not running things by the end of his term. Also, when I saw you posted here, I thought it would be to admit that Bret Weinstein was right about Fauci funding gain of function research in Wuhan... ... haha, no I didn't. You aren't man enough to admit it. 2 Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted June 20 Posted June 20 20 minutes ago, TimHauck said: The moderate take on Fauci is that he made some mistakes, but he’s not a criminal and Covid isn’t his fault. His biggest mistake was recommending some people get 2 doses of the very effective Trump vaccine rather than trying to get 1 dose to as many people as possible. My view on Dr. Fauci is that he is a hero, completely undeserving of the treatment he has received, and will hopefully go down in history as a great man. Guess I’m no moderate… 4 Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted June 20 Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: A moderate take would be to acknowledge the extremely high likelihood that Biden was not running things by the end of his term. There’s no reason to assume this. He was slow and not always with it (see our current President as well) but there is no evidence that anyone else made important decisions for him and I don’t believe it. Without evidence it’s not a “moderate take.” Quote
HellToupee Posted June 20 Posted June 20 29 minutes ago, TimHauck said: The moderate take on Fauci is that he made some mistakes, but he’s not a criminal and Covid isn’t his fault. His biggest mistake was recommending some people get 2 doses So funding the operation and then lying & covering it up wasn’t a mistake? Quote
jerryskids Posted June 20 Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, Caine Mutiny said: There’s no reason to assume this. He was slow and not always with it (see our current President as well) but there is no evidence that anyone else made important decisions for him and I don’t believe it. Without evidence it’s not a “moderate take.” Of course there is reason. I didn't say it was absolute, but it's certainly not "utterly ridiculous" like Moderate Tim said. The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Of course there is reason. I didn't say it was absolute, but it's certainly not "utterly ridiculous" like Moderate Tim said. The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. Biden commented on Fauci’s pardon. He knew what he was doing. It’s utterly ridiculous to say otherwise. 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 18 minutes ago, jerryskids said: A moderate take would be to acknowledge the extremely high likelihood that Biden was not running things by the end of his term. Also, when I saw you posted here, I thought it would be to admit that Bret Weinstein was right about Fauci funding gain of function research in Wuhan... ... haha, no I didn't. You aren't man enough to admit it. Per usual you are incapable of nuance. I stand by what I’ve said in the past. Did the WIV perform gain of function research? Probably Did Fauci fund projects at the WIV? Yes Did Fauci fund gain of function research at the WIV? I haven’t seen evidence of that. If the WIV was doing gain of function research, in all likelihood they still would have done it regardless of whether or not they got funding from Fauci. 2 Quote
Caine Mutiny Posted June 20 Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Of course there is reason. I didn't say it was absolute, but it's certainly not "utterly ridiculous" like Moderate Tim said. The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. No you’re assuming things that aren’t in evidence. Yes we can agree that Biden wasn’t right. I was wrong about that. The biggest piece of evidence was, of course, a few minutes of the debate. But several times after that debate, Biden gave interviews and unprompted talks that demonstrated that he could be cogent at times. As with Trump now, I suspect this came and went. But you have taken this fact (Biden’s sometimes lack of lucidity) and jumped to the conclusion that unnamed others were calling the shots in terms of the Presidency during Biden’s last months in office. There’s no evidence, it’s not a reasonable assumption, it’s not a rational assumption or a moderate one at this point. Not without evidence. It’s a guess on your part. Nothing more. And the lack of evidence argues very strongly against it. Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Also can we all just recognize that in all likelihood Tulsi was pushed out of her job, and yet she’s still slurping Trump. Lol Quote
RaiderHaters Revenge Posted June 20 Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Also can we all just recognize that in all likelihood Tulsi was pushed out of her job, and yet she’s still slurping Trump. Lol why would we assume that, oh thats right youre an idiot you think shes a russian operative 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 13 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: why would we assume that, oh thats right youre an idiot you think shes a russian operative https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/02/trump-tulsi-gabbard-intelligence-chief 1 Quote
RaiderHaters Revenge Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/02/trump-tulsi-gabbard-intelligence-chief so now you listen to Bannon? no wonder people think youre a joke 3 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: so now you listen to Bannon? no wonder people think youre a joke No, just saying I’m not making up that she was likely pushed out. And I’m not even saying she was fired. Maybe she technically did resign but knew the writing was on the wall. Quote
RaiderHaters Revenge Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Just now, TimHauck said: No, just saying I’m not making up that she was likely pushed out. And I’m not even saying she was fired. Maybe she technically did resign but knew the writing was on the wall. yes the writing is on the wall, they probably just faked the cancer Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yes the writing is on the wall, they probably just faked the cancer Not everyone quits their job when their spouse gets cancer. In fact they usually need to keep their job for the health insurance. Quote
RaiderHaters Revenge Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Not everyone quits their job when their spouse gets cancer. In fact they usually need to keep their job for the health insurance. she spent how many years in the military? maybe you should look into health coverage for lifetime vets and civil servants and I know you support the party that doesnt believe in family so its not really surprising you take that stance 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: she spent how many years in the military? maybe you should look into health coverage for lifetime vets and civil servants and I know you support the party that doesnt believe in family so its not really surprising you take that stance We also know she originally stated her last day was going to be 6/30. There were reports Pulte (side note, a housing dude as interim DNI, what are we doing?) called her on 6/9 to tell her that day was her last day. She then spoke to Trump and they agreed her last day would be 6/19. Don’t think that’s typical for someone resigning on their own terms. Quote
Frozenbeernuts Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: The moderate take on Fauci is that he made some mistakes, but he’s not a criminal and Covid isn’t his fault. His biggest mistake was recommending some people get 2 doses of the very effective Trump vaccine rather than trying to get 1 dose to as many people as possible. The moderate take is you making stuff up. He literally oversaw gain of function in Wuhan China. Why the fock is Fauci using our tax dollars to make bioweapons capable of infecting the entire world? I will never understand how liberals will look at someone and excuse them for making bioweapons that could potentially wipe out humanity just because they are a liberal. 1 1 Quote
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RaiderHaters Revenge Posted June 20 Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: We also know she originally stated her last day was going to be 6/30. There were reports Pulte (side note, a housing dude as interim DNI, what are we doing?) called her on 6/9 to tell her that day was her last day. She then spoke to Trump and they agreed her last day would be 6/19. Don’t think that’s typical for someone resigning on their own terms. reports by people close to the white house the bum sleeping on the stairs we hired an obese tranny to be a health director Quote
Strike Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: The moderate take on Fauci is that he made some mistakes, but he’s not a criminal and Covid isn’t his fault. His biggest mistake was recommending some people get 2 doses of the very effective Trump vaccine rather than trying to get 1 dose to as many people as possible. Another moderate take might be that Fauci is a narcissist like many in power and thought he knew what was best for us regardless of the risk. He funded gain of function research for what he perceived as the good of society. A moderate might say he did the wrong thing for the right reasons. What *I* have a problem with is the cover up. IF he had come clean when he was found out I might have still wanted him held accountable but I might have been willing to show him some grace. But the evidence is overwhelming that he funded GOF research and then tried to cover it up. That is unforgivable in this MODERATE'S opinion. 1 1 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, Strike said: the evidence is overwhelming that he funded GOF research Link, or are you making more unsubstantiated allegations? Quote
Strike Posted June 20 Posted June 20 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Link, or are you making more unsubstantiated allegations? Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 minute ago, Strike said: So more unsubstantiated allegations, got it Quote
Strike Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Just now, TimHauck said: So more unsubstantiated allegations, got it This is why I rarely engage with you. I provided the evidence you asked for and you lie about it and mischaracterize it. You're everything wrong with this bored right now. 1 3 Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 13 minutes ago, Strike said: This is why I rarely engage with you. I provided the evidence you asked for and you lie about it and mischaracterize it. You're everything wrong with this bored right now. A post from January 2020, the first in a thread with almost 25,000 replies and not pointing to any others, isn’t overwhelming evidence that Fauci funded gain of function research. HTH. Quote
jerryskids Posted June 20 Posted June 20 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Per usual you are incapable of nuance. I stand by what I’ve said in the past. Did the WIV perform gain of function research? Probably Did Fauci fund projects at the WIV? Yes Did Fauci fund gain of function research at the WIV? I haven’t seen evidence of that. If the WIV was doing gain of function research, in all likelihood they still would have done it regardless of whether or not they got funding from Fauci. LOL, you aren't a serious poster. How is that mea culpa on Bret Wienstein coming? 1 hour ago, Caine Mutiny said: No you’re assuming things that aren’t in evidence. Yes we can agree that Biden wasn’t right. I was wrong about that. The biggest piece of evidence was, of course, a few minutes of the debate. But several times after that debate, Biden gave interviews and unprompted talks that demonstrated that he could be cogent at times. As with Trump now, I suspect this came and went. But you have taken this fact (Biden’s sometimes lack of lucidity) and jumped to the conclusion that unnamed others were calling the shots in terms of the Presidency during Biden’s last months in office. There’s no evidence, it’s not a reasonable assumption, it’s not a rational assumption or a moderate one at this point. Not without evidence. It’s a guess on your part. Nothing more. And the lack of evidence argues very strongly against it. My evidence is that the policies of his presidency were much more progressive than the previous 50-ish years of his political life. Also how he looked lost more often than not those last 12 months. Certainly not "utterly ridiculous." Quote
Strike Posted June 20 Posted June 20 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: My evidence is that the policies of his presidency were much more progressive than the previous 50-ish years of his political life. Also how he looked lost more often than not those last 12 months. Certainly not "utterly ridiculous." His prodigious use of the autopen was a good clue as well. And when I say his I really mean whoever was pulling the strings in that administration. Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 5 minutes ago, jerryskids said: LOL, you aren't a serious poster. How is that mea culpa on Bret Wienstein coming? My evidence is that the policies of his presidency were much more progressive than the previous 50-ish years of his political life. Also how he looked lost more often than not those last 12 months. Certainly not "utterly ridiculous." Not sure why you keep bringing up Weinstein, pretty sure my main criticism of him was about ivermectin, which of course was never shown to be effective against Covid. Quote
RaiderHaters Revenge Posted June 20 Posted June 20 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Not sure why you keep bringing up Weinstein, pretty sure my main criticism of him was about ivermectin, which of course was never shown to be effective against Covid. You just love this comment. Nobody said it was a cure to Covid. I know Motrin wasn’t a cure either. Weird my doctor prescribed it to me. Almost like fighting other issues you have allows your body to focus on something else hint there is no cure for the flu. Just like there isnt a vaccine Quote
jerryskids Posted June 20 Posted June 20 8 minutes ago, Strike said: His prodigious use of the autopen was a good clue as well. And when I say his I really mean whoever was pulling the strings in that administration. Great point. It seems that once again our Lefties (and Moderate Tim, a centrist) are confusing evidence and proof. There may not be incontrovertible proof that Fauci funded GOF research, but there is a lot of evidence. Heck, Moderate Tim spelled it out nicely. There may not be incontrovertible evidence that someone else used the autopen, but there is plenty of evidence. It's hilarious that Moderate Tim of all people is lecturing me on nuance. Utterly ridiculous! Quote
TimHauck Posted June 20 Posted June 20 12 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: You just love this comment. Nobody said it was a cure to Covid. I know Motrin wasn’t a cure either. Weird my doctor prescribed it to me. Almost like fighting other issues you have allows your body to focus on something else hint there is no cure for the flu. Just like there isnt a vaccine Huh? I didn’t say cure, I said effective. And Weinstein even touted a study he claimed showed it was “100% effective,” but later admitted he was wrong to do that. Quote
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