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Just now, nobody said:

I remember when I was a hero for going to work during COVID.  Then I was villainized because I didn't want the jab I didn't need.

You were villainized at work? Friends? Neighbors? Family?

Posted
1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You were villainized at work? Friends? Neighbors? Family?

Gutterboy.

I was his hero... Until he realized I was thinking for myself

Posted
15 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

My friend you can put that down as my opinion & recollection & not a claim of fact. It’s 6 years later & people are still rending & gnashing over having had to wear a mask or talk through plexiglass.

Might be your opinion but it's certainly not a recollection of any kind of fact.  I remember, after the Pandemic ending, Fauci being asked about why they came up with the 6 foot rule and he told them it was just pulled out of thin air.  He literally made it up.  And he didn't do it to encourage commerce.  Please.

Fauci's congressional testimony:


 

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Q -- it was applied in schools, it was applied here. At least how the messaging1
was applied was that 6-foot distancing was the distance that needed to be --2
A You know, I don't recall. It sort of just appeared. I don't recall, like, a3
discussion of whether it should be 5 or 6 or whatever. It was just that 6-foot is --4
Q Did you see any studies that supported 6 feet?5
A I was not aware of studies that -- in fact, that would be a very difficult study6
to do.7
Q I know. I'm just trying to figure out why 6 versus 3 or 4 or 5.8
A Yeah. Yeah.9
Q Like, 6 is a significant distance. I mean, you've testified here. I think you10
testified in front of Mr. Scalise a couple times when I was working for him. And recalling11
the hearing rooms, instead of, like, seven members on the top of the dais, there's two,12
and --13
A Right.14
Q -- it was just two staffers behind.15
A Yeah. Yeah. I think it would fall under the category of empiric. Just an
empiric decision that wasn't based on data or even data that could be accomplished.

Do you see anything in there about encouraging commerce?

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Fauci-Part-2-Transcript.pdf

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Posted
Just now, Strike said:

Might be your opinion but it's certainly not a recollection of any kind of fact.  I remember, after the Pandemic ending, Fauci being asked about why they came up with the 6 foot rule and he told them it was just pulled out of thin air.  He literally made it up.  And he didn't do it to encourage commerce.  Please.

Because quite frankly they didn’t know what they were dealing with.

Posted
19 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

My friend you can put that down as my opinion & recollection & not a claim of fact. It’s 6 years later & people are still rending & gnashing over having had to wear a mask or talk through plexiglass.

No one would care if it were a out wearing masks and talking through plexiglass.  

You guys tried to force us to take the jab under threat of our jobs with the "fock your freedom" campaign. 

I for one will never forget what y'all did.  After I was such a big hero too.

Posted
5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Because quite frankly they didn’t know what they were dealing with.

Just posted Fauci's congressional testimony above for your benefit. Can you show me where in that testimony he says anything about encouraging commerce?

Posted
54 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Fwiw this and some other measures - like, stand 6 feet back in line! - were not so much intended to protect people but to make people feel they were protected so they felt safe engaging in commerce again. Point was to get people back into public activity again.

Bump to refresh SID's memory about what he said previously about the 6 foot rule being to encourage commerce.

Posted
51 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

FWIW those are weak minded people that needed that.  Kind of like you insisting on testing your entire family every 5 minutes.  Is that why they left?

😳

Posted
10 minutes ago, Strike said:

Might be your opinion but it's certainly not a recollection of any kind of fact.  I remember, after the Pandemic ending, Fauci being asked about why they came up with the 6 foot rule and he told them it was just pulled out of thin air.  He literally made it up.  And he didn't do it to encourage commerce.  Please.

Fauci's congressional testimony:


 

Do you see anything in there about encouraging commerce?

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Fauci-Part-2-Transcript.pdf

Fauci didn’t make up the 6 foot rule. Facts matter.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Strike said:

Just posted Fauci's congressional testimony above for you benefit. Can you show me where in that testimony he says anything about encouraging commerce?

I’m glad to look, but I wasn’t referring to Fauci (but I’ll look). What I meant is that businesses wanted customers to feel safe when they entered the store or other business. If people felt safe they’d return to public interaction. That was my perception.

But I’ll look.

Though I’m not sure what the nefarious ideological gain would be gotten from making people jump through unnecessary hoops?

Also do Redfern & Trump get no criticism for any of this? It was Redfern’s department, it was Trump’s administration. How do they escape unscathed by this discussion?

Posted
13 minutes ago, Strike said:

Might be your opinion but it's certainly not a recollection of any kind of fact.  I remember, after the Pandemic ending, Fauci being asked about why they came up with the 6 foot rule and he told them it was just pulled out of thin air.  He literally made it up.  And he didn't do it to encourage commerce.  Please.

Fauci's congressional testimony:


 

Do you see anything in there about encouraging commerce?

https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Fauci-Part-2-Transcript.pdf

Ok for example p. 101, lines 7-18. That’s about the vaccine but same principle. I’ll see if there’s more.

Posted
4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’m glad to look, but I wasn’t referring to Fauci (but I’ll look). What I meant is that businesses wanted customers to feel safe when they entered the store or other business. If people felt safe they’d return to public interaction. That was my perception.

But I’ll look.

Though I’m not sure what the nefarious ideological gain would be gotten from making people jump through unnecessary hoops?

Also do Redfetn & Trump get no criticism for any of this? It was Redfern’s department, it was Trump’s administration. How do they escape unscathed by this discussion?

The 6 foot rule was mandated by the government.  That was the discussion when you made your comments about it being related to commerce.  Or did you think EVERY store, school, and other public place ALL decided on 6 foot distancing at the exact same time?   Quit back tracking.

Posted
1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok for example p. 101, lines 7-18. That’s about the vaccine but same principle. I’ll see if there’s more.

If you want to call something out feel free to post the relevant text here.  LIKE I DID FOR YOU.

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10 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’m glad to look, but I wasn’t referring to Fauci (but I’ll look). What I meant is that businesses wanted customers to feel safe when they entered the store or other business. If people felt safe they’d return to public interaction. That was my perception.

But I’ll look.

Though I’m not sure what the nefarious ideological gain would be gotten from making people jump through unnecessary hoops?

Also do Redfern & Trump get no criticism for any of this? It was Redfern’s department, it was Trump’s administration. How do they escape unscathed by this discussion?

We've established your perception is chit, and psychotic at times, so probably best to try and stick to facts. 

Let me show you how:

The CDC's Rationale: Health officials based the rule on the premise that virus-carrying droplets from a cough or sneeze generally fall to the ground within six feet.

So the facts aren't even close to your perception. As usual. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Strike said:

If you want to call something out feel free to post the relevant text here.  LIKE I DID FOR YOU.

Eh, on a phone, paste is not working for me, I’m sure you can drive to the page & line.

On the 6-ft rule specifically, it’s only asked about once, at p. 183, lines 21 & following. Fauci’s was interrupted a fair bit but he wasn’t asked *why he implemented the six foot rule just the reason for 6 feet vs any other distance.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Strike said:

If you want to call something out feel free to post the relevant text here.  LIKE I DID FOR YOU.

 

11 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

I’m glad to look, but I wasn’t referring to Fauci (but I’ll look).

Scott Gottlieb:

“The initial recommendation that the CDC brought to the White House, and I talk about this, was 10 feet,” he said. “And a political appointee in the White House said, we can’t recommend 10 feet. Nobody can measure 10 feet. It’s inoperable. Society will shut down. So the compromise was around six feet.”

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4 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

We've established your perception is chit, and psychotic at times, so probably best to try and stick to facts. 

Hey all for it. What is the claimed basis for the six foot rule then, why in your opinion did they set that & other rules like masks if not safety or perception of safety?

Posted
1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Hey all for it. What is the claimed basis for the six foot rule then, why in your opinion did they set that & other rules like masks if not safety or perception of safety?

No no. You said "to make people feel they were protected so they felt safe engaging in commerce again. " 

5 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

We've established your perception is chit, and psychotic at times, so probably best to try and stick to facts. 

Let me show you how:

The CDC's Rationale: Health officials based the rule on the premise that virus-carrying droplets from a cough or sneeze generally fall to the ground within six feet.

So the facts aren't even close to your perception. As usual. 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

 

Scott Gottlieb:

“The initial recommendation that the CDC brought to the White House, and I talk about this, was 10 feet,” he said. “And a political appointee in the White House said, we can’t recommend 10 feet. Nobody can measure 10 feet. It’s inoperable. Society will shut down. So the compromise was around six feet.”

Thank you. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, JuneJuly said:

Let me show you how:

The CDC's Rationale: Health officials based the rule on the premise that virus-carrying droplets from a cough or sneeze generally fall to the ground within six feet.

Well like I noted above that’s about the specific distance, not the reason for the recommendation itself (or other recommendations like it).

Posted
6 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh, on a phone, paste is not working for me, I’m sure you can drive to the page & line.

On the 6-ft rule specifically, it’s only asked about once, at p. 183, lines 21 & following. Fauci’s was interrupted a fair bit but he wasn’t asked *why he implemented the six foot rule just the reason for 6 feet vs any other distance.

They noted that the 6 foot rule was also required in schools.  That wouldn't have been the case if it was for commerce.

Posted
4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Well like I noted above thats about the specific distance, not the reason for the recommendation itself (or other recommendations like it).

You're so far gone that the "premise that virus droplets from a caugh falls to the ground at 6 feet" isn't a reason and instead the reason is something you made up in your head?

HFS 

Posted

Did y'all hear that Tulsi dropped the docs that Fauci worked on gain-of-function weapons to kill everyone, then lied to Congress about it?

Posted
Just now, BudBro said:

Did y'all hear that Tulsi dropped the docs that Fauci worked on gain-of-function weapons to kill everyone, then lied to Congress about it?

Anything new in there? I haven’t seen it. If you have, please share.
 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Strike said:

They noted that the 6 foot rule was also required in schools.  That wouldn't have been the case if it was for commerce.

Good point, but I suppose it might also mean the intention was to have people feel safe sending their children back to school as well.

Posted
4 minutes ago, BudBro said:

Did y'all hear that Tulsi dropped the docs that Fauci worked on gain-of-function weapons to kill everyone, then lied to Congress about it?

My friend I think I’ve mentioned your OP at least twice.

Posted
Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Good point, but I suppose it might also mean the intention was to have people feel safe sending their children back to school as well.

Yawn.  You Libs always make a claim and then try to weasel out of it.  So tiring.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yawn.  You Libs always make a claim and then try to weasel out of it.  So tiring.

Ok so I’m wrong. Why do you think they implemented the safety rules & went warp speed on the vax?

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Remember when you had to have a mask on in order to go into a restaurant but you could take it off at your table as long as you were eating Or drinking? Experts! 

Posted
3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Ok so I’m wrong. Why do you think they implemented the safety rules & went warp speed on the vax?

Doesn't matter.  I don't need to rehash 5 year old discussions.  The main point being discussed here started, I think, with LemmingTim saying he was worried people wouldn't trust our health "professionals" in a future Pandemic and some of us pushing back reminding everyone that these people flat out lied to us during this Pandemic so if we don't trust them that's on them, not us.  Then you had to try to cover for them, LemmingSID.

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All the stupid stuff they did was to make stupid people feel safe!!!

Says the idiot that religiously followed the stupid rules.  

You can't make it up folks.  🤣🤣🤣🤣

  

Posted
2 minutes ago, Strike said:

Doesn't matter.  I don't need to rehash 5 year old discussions.  The main point being discussed here started, I think, with LemmingTim saying he was worried people wouldn't trust our health "professionals" in a future Pandemic and some of us pushing back reminding everyone that these people flat out lied to us during this Pandemic so if we don't trust them that's on them, not us.  Then you had to try to cover for them, LemmingSID.

Do you find Redfern & Trump at all responsible for this? 

Posted
Just now, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Do you find Redfern & Trump at all responsible for this? 

I hold the entire government responsible.  Have you seen me run cover for ANY of those fockers?

Posted
1 minute ago, Strike said:

I hold the entire government responsible.  Have you seen me run cover for ANY of those fockers?

Not really sure, it just seems like Fauci is the only person mentioned.

I did look at the documents. It seems like everything Gabbard released had names redacted plus huge amounts of text.

It just seems to me that if people really did believe all this they would want the President who oversaw it all held accountable.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Strike said:

I hold the entire government responsible.  Have you seen me run cover for ANY of those fockers?

Yes.  Trump.  Strike wrong again.

On 7/10/2024 at 1:39 PM, Strike said:

Biden didn't "handle" Covid.  He took the "vaccine" he was gifted by Trump and handed it out like candy, and didn't even do that right.  Trump handled Covid about as well as could be expected and, in hindsight, I think most rational.people understand that.

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Not really sure, it just seems like Fauci is the only person mentioned.

I did look at the documents. It seems like everything Gabbard released had names redacted plus huge amounts of text.

It just seems to me that if people really did believe all this they would want the President who oversaw it all held accountable.

Why?  Trump isn't a medical doctor or researcher.  He relies on those people tasked with being that.  And in his first administration he inherited most, if not all, of those people.  Doesn't absolve him of ANY responsibility but when you've got a snake inside your administration and you don't know it you're probably gonna get snookered.  If he knew then what he knows now about Fauci I'm pretty sure Fauci would have been gone and someone else would have been his point on the Pandemic.

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